Politics for the UK members (for once)

**MASTER** · 05-15-2008, 04:07 PM

Yeh something does need to be done about it, but people that are already citizens here shouldn't be kicked out just because they are ethnic minorities, only illegals should be given the boot. It needs to become far harder to become a citizen of this country though, its ridiculous, this free movement in europe.

**Flagg** · 05-15-2008, 04:36 PM

People voting for the BNP, JUST because they say they will do something about immigration is ridiculous.

Housing, better public transport, cost of living...all those are less important than immigration?

**Flagg** · 05-15-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by kfrost06

Seems like the strongest leaders of England have always been women, Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria, and Margaret Thatcher.

I think Thatcher was the greatest Prime Minister we've ever had since Churchill.

**paulzane** · 05-16-2008, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Flagg

People voting for the BNP, JUST because they say they will do something about immigration is ridiculous.

Housing, better public transport, cost of living...all those are less important than immigration?

O.K. Read this :

http://www.bnp.org.uk/2008/02/bnp-policies/

**Flagg** · 05-16-2008, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by paulzane

O.K. Read this :

http://www.bnp.org.uk/2008/02/bnp-policies/

Some of that sounds good in theory, but I really wonder if the reality would work. For one I believe cutting ties with the EU would be a bad thing, in a world with dwindling oil reserves, we will probably NEED our european neighbours in the future.

Also, I think those policies just cater to the publics greatest wants...prehaps you should watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdFiV7aT8

There are 5 more parts. You can't call it media propaganda cause there is RECORDED footage of this parties true beliefs.

**Flagg** · 05-16-2008, 04:27 AM

Another policy that the BNP DOESN'T mention in that list of policies, is that they want to make homosexuality ILLEGAL.

Look, im no PC do-gooder, I hate how we can't say anything these days without upsetting someone but the BNP is not the answer. You let a party in where they make homosexuality illegal, then you are going to get an all manner of crazy, stupid laws.

**Blackster1975** · 05-16-2008, 06:10 AM

i say we cut all ties with those european toss pots, the next thing you will see is the death of the pound, then our sovereignty will be gone also, and we will have to answer to brussels or worse the germans.

**paulzane** · 05-16-2008, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Some of that sounds good in theory, but I really wonder if the reality would work. For one I believe cutting ties with the EU would be a bad thing, in a world with dwindling oil reserves, we will probably NEED our european neighbours in the future.

Also, I think those policies just cater to the publics greatest wants...prehaps you should watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdFiV7aT8

There are 5 more parts. You can't call it media propaganda cause there is RECORDED footage of this parties true beliefs.

That programme was from 5 years ago and was a load of tosh. Once again I could do something similar about the lib/lab/con party with secret cameras etc. The media and especially the communist run BBC has an agenda against the BNP

**Crest** · 05-16-2008, 10:37 AM

i dont think it would be good if they got in power, lets face it they aren't ever going to win an election but maybe if other parties start seeing a change in the way people are voting and the reason they are loosing votes then they may start clamping down on all the benefit thief immigrants sponging off my hard earner tax money and change thier policies on immigration!

**paulzane** · 05-16-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Another policy that the BNP DOESN'T mention in that list of policies, is that they want to make homosexuality ILLEGAL.

Look, im no PC do-gooder, I hate how we can't say anything these days without upsetting someone but the BNP is not the answer. You let a party in where they make homosexuality illegal, then you are going to get an all manner of crazy, stupid laws.

Bollox .... This is from their site. I see nothing where they say that it will be made illegal.

The British National Party is not ‘homophobic’ and believes that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is a matter for them alone and is of no concern to anyone else. On the other hand the BNP is not blinded or cowed by political correctness and recognises that homosexuality, which affects less than 2% of the population, is not the norm and that homosexual relationships do not produce offspring – essential to the survival of a people and a nation.We therefore believe in a policy of tolerance to all forms of adult sexuality, but homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged. The BNP supports the traditional ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ attitude to homosexuality and is opposed to the flaunting or celebrating of homosexuality which ‘civil partnerships’ represent. We believe that the government should adopt a more neutral position towards homosexuality rather than aiding and encouraging it by passing legislation specifically and solely designed to favour it.

**Flagg** · 05-16-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by paulzane

Bollox .... This is from their site. I see nothing where they say that it will be made illegal.

The British National Party is not ‘homophobic’ and believes that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is a matter for them alone and is of no concern to anyone else. On the other hand the BNP is not blinded or cowed by political correctness and recognises that homosexuality, which affects less than 2% of the population, is not the norm and that homosexual relationships do not produce offspring – essential to the survival of a people and a nation.We therefore believe in a policy of tolerance to all forms of adult sexuality, but homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged. The BNP supports the traditional ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ attitude to homosexuality and is opposed to the flaunting or celebrating of homosexuality which ‘civil partnerships’ represent. We believe that the government should adopt a more neutral position towards homosexuality rather than aiding and encouraging it by passing legislation specifically and solely designed to favour it.

5 years ago is not long ago in the world of politics. And no matter how Left Wing the BBC are, the camera doesn't lie.

I'm pretty sure they haven't put anything about wanting to drive up to Mosques and unload a machine gun at all the people that walk out, yet that is what some of their contempories wish to do. I seriously don't believe they would deliver on half those promises anyways, how many times have you heard a Party Political Broadcast, only for it to be full of false promises that were never delivered?

As for homophobia, go look at BNP on wikipedia. By the way, the current rate of population growth on this planet is 3 people being born to every 1 person that dies, so i SERIOUSLY doubt homosexual people are going to bring about the extinction of the human race. The population needs to slow down as it is. Give me one reason why the population of England needs to exceed 65 million.