Calling All Military People

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-05-2008, 08:33 PM

Please, share your experiences...

I would appreciate it.

**smokeyd** · 10-05-2008, 08:36 PM

you thinking about joining mr nash??

**DSM4Life** · 10-05-2008, 08:38 PM

**running_scared** · 10-05-2008, 08:40 PM

Sorry...had to...

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-05-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by smokeyd

you thinking about joining mr nash??

haha, Yeah. Possibly.

Im getting my degree first though.

**JDawg1536** · 10-05-2008, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

haha, Yeah. Possibly.

Im getting my degree first though.

Well, what service are you leaning toward and what are you looking to accomplish? Give a little background......

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-05-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

Well, what service are you leaning toward and what are you looking to accomplish? Give a little background......

Im open to all, but Im leaning towards army/marines

I've been interested in special ops ever since middle school. And it just seems like something I need to do. I want to do it. I want to at least give it a shot. That feeling of accomplishment. I just think it would be amazing.

**warchild** · 10-05-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Im open to all, but Im leaning towards army/marines

I've been interested in special ops ever since middle school. And it just seems like something I need to do. I want to do it. I want to at least give it a shot. That feeling of accomplishment. I just think it would be amazing.

cool man but dont forget to start a thread about whether or not there is steroid testing in the military

**JDawg1536** · 10-05-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Im open to all, but Im leaning towards army/marines

I've been interested in special ops ever since middle school. And it just seems like something I need to do. I want to do it. I want to at least give it a shot. That feeling of accomplishment. I just think it would be amazing.

I'm gonna refrain from giving my opinion, but there are plenty of guys on here that will hook you up with some sound advice.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-05-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

I'm gonna refrain from giving my opinion, but there are plenty of guys on here that will hook you up with some sound advice.

please, by all means, if you have an experience you want to share... shoot away
or PM if you want.

btw, I don't want this to turn into a who is better ordeal.

**Ernst** · 10-05-2008, 09:12 PM

You should ask CSAR. I think I recall him saying he went through BUD/S and SERE.

**JDawg1536** · 10-05-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst

You should ask CSAR. I think I recall him saying he went through BUD/S and SERE.

SERE isn't spec ops, its just a school you will go through. But yeah, CSAR is a good guy to talk to, but he was navy. If you are looking Army/Marines there are some Ranger and Recon guys around here that can help you out. The military isn't for everyone, and though I've received plenty of good benefits and experience, it sure as shit aint for me.

**CSAR** · 10-06-2008, 03:57 AM

Cheers guys. Yeah, I was a corpsman (medic) in the Navy, but attached to a Marine Recon platoon during Operation Southern Watch.

I might catch some hell for this, but knowing what I know now, I think I'd choose between going into the Air Force to become a CCT or the Army to become a Ranger. I'd stay away from the Marines (even though they have a proud, distinguished history and I was honored to serve with them) and the Navy (the chance of being "Haze Gray and Underway" for 6 months with 300 other men is enough to discourage most men, except DSM

). The Marines are at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to funding and quality of equipment. The Navy is full of fat, lazy fvckers and social misfits.

Air Force CCTs are in high demand among Special Forces A Teams and SEAL platoons. If you're shit-hot, you may be invited to join the world of black special ops with Delta or DEVGRU. You'll enjoy an operating tempo that, to my understanding, is really high and you'll be deployed most months out of the year. Probably not good if you're married w/ kids. The job is very technical and CCTs are among the most intelligent guys in the military.

Guys like Rockin' Red would be better able to describe the Rangers, but they are the most elite light infantry force in the world. They do a lot of DA (direct action) ops, MOUT (military operations in urban terrain), CSAR (combat search & rescue), and QRF (quick reaction force). CSAR and QRF are two assignments that some guys don't like, because they involve a lot of sitting around and waiting (but the training is top notch). When you do get that call, something has gone tits up and you're going somewhere that's not good. Anyhow, having that Ranger tab on your shoulder can do a lot for your Army career and is the best way into Special Forces, should you choose to stay in. First, you gotta volunteer 4 times - once for the Army, once for the infantry, once for the Airborne, and once for the Rangers.

I do have mixed feelings on my own military service. There were times that I really hated it, especially when I was injured and treated like shit. But all the other times that I was training or deployed with my platoon, I loved it. That's my two cents for now. Shoot me a PM if you have any specific questions.

**wascaptain5214** · 10-06-2008, 05:07 AM

well, i wasn't nothing special, 4 years active, 17 years as a reservist. my advice would be: to wait until you have enough college to get commissioned. semper fi

**DSM4Life** · 10-06-2008, 05:12 AM

I think it would help xlxBigSexyxlx decide if you guys posted your pictures in uniform.

**rockinred** · 10-06-2008, 06:57 AM

Big Sexy,

I think CSAR wrote up a very good analysis on the military and special ops.. I couldn't agree more....

But let me give you some different food for thought... I wrote this to Soccer a while back in a PM when he was thinking about going in..... these are just some added things to consider before going in.... especially if you are finishing school already.

on the military note, there are other things to consider... when I went in it was all about trying to fufill my youthful aspirations as an elite (rambo type thing).... I was an Army Infantry Ranger and yes it was challenging, but definitly not what I thought I really wanted... i did good time, traveled the world, but I also realized that other things were more important than seeking adventure and traveling the world... You are gone all the time, very seldom do soldiers have a happy marriage and family... when I got out all I could really apply for was police jobs and I didn't want to do that line of work so I had to start over and went to school... I also love my family and didn't want to be away from them the rest of my life.

Here is some things to consider...

If you are not going to do anything with yourself... not finish school, get in trouble, hanging with the wrong dudes... then go in to military..
think about your age? if you are over 21 then you are pretty old compared to everyone enlisted... and you will get a hard time by a lot people...
at your age you should consider going in as an officer if you have to go in at an age that has already finished college degree.
you lose your freedom a little bit too...
also, if you have to go in consider an occupation that can transfer on the outside, so if it isn't for you, you have something to fall back on.
lastly, there is a lot of deployment and war in Iraq, be prepared or willing to give your life for that cause...

I am not trying to talk you out of it I just want to inform you... If you are already a senior then you are a smart guy... Once you finish school there are many opportunities to make a good living depednding on how you apply yourself... to tell you the truth, and take this for what it is worth.. I only recommend the military to people who are at a dead end in their life as a youth... it gives you time to think and mature and get away from problems in their neighborhood... this I don't think you fit into... I know uncle sam wants some folks with some brains and won't agree with me, but that is my advice from experience.... everyone is smart...

The other thing I would like to add is I wanted to get a family going and it was almost impossible in Special Ops... Also, the life style is fun and adventurous but it is also not all it is cracked up to be either.... If you are set on going in as a non-commissioned enlistee then make sure you get Ranger Battalion in your contract..... what that means is that you go through boot camp, you immediately go to Airborn school, then you go through RIP (ranger indoctrination program), if you complete all that you get assigned to a Ranger Battallion, then you have within the 1st year to pass Ranger school and maintain certain levels of fitness and expertise or you get sent to an Airborn Infantry Unit like 82nd Airborn.... if everything goes good, it is a great starting point to get into Special Forces.... (which you can't go directly, you must be an NCO to get in the specialized unit.

let me know if you have any more questions. There is a lot more to think about and balancing out your career, family, and even your life...

Oh and one last thing I can say i got from military special ops.. is the ability to know that I can do anything, anything I want...when I apply myself and put my mind to it.. You have to get to that point in order to make it through many tough scenarios... this can be carried on the rest of your life

**JDawg1536** · 10-06-2008, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by CSAR

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Air Force CCTs are in high demand among Special Forces A Teams and SEAL platoons. If you're shit-hot, you may be invited to join the world of black special ops with Delta or DEVGRU. You'll enjoy an operating tempo that, to my understanding, is really high and you'll be deployed most months out of the year. Probably not good if you're married w/ kids. The job is very technical and CCTs are among the most intelligent guys in the military.

A friend of mine told me that they actually have SEALs coming to the AF to become CCT because they weren't getting to deploy in the Navy (due to the sheer # of SEAL operators, according to him). This was about three years ago. I can't really say much because I really don't know much, just passing on what I heard. What I can tell you is that the quality of life in the AF will be 10x better than any other service, especially if you are in spec ops (when not deployed of course).

**JDawg1536** · 10-06-2008, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by rockinred

I am not trying to talk you out of it I just want to inform you... If you are already a senior then you are a smart guy... Once you finish school there are many opportunities to make a good living depednding on how you apply yourself... to tell you the truth, and take this for what it is worth.. I only recommend the military to people who are at a dead end in their life as a youth... it gives you time to think and mature and get away from problems in their neighborhood... this I don't think you fit into... I know uncle sam wants some folks with some brains and won't agree with me, but that is my advice from experience.... everyone is smart...

Oh and one last thing I can say i got from military special ops.. is the ability to know that I can do anything, anything I want...when I apply myself and put my mind to it.. You have to get to that point in order to make it through many tough scenarios... this can be carried on the rest of your life

Great post. I wouldn't say I was at a "dead end", but I was definitely "stuck in a rut". I personally hate the military, but one thing I am thankful for is that it did in fact help me mature to a point that I just don't think I could have had I stayed in the civilian realm. And after going through some of the training I have (not advanced to the level of spec ops by any means, but more advanced than your standard military training), and putting up with the day to day bullshit for a few years, another great life experience I have gotten is that I've come to realize that I have the capacity to achieve just about anything I want to. I can't wait to get back into the real world and "apply" my new found wisdom.

**"Maximus"** · 10-06-2008, 10:02 AM

Semper Fi!!!

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-06-2008, 01:31 PM

Thanks for the inputs. I can't type much because I have to go to school.

Anywho, I was researching the Air Force, and that seems like it might be more me. With great experience for "the outside world" careers.

I'll probably be shooting a few people PMs when I get back later tonight.

**Tock** · 10-06-2008, 01:53 PM

It's a big bureaucracy that shoots people. If you're the sort of person who doesn't mind lots of rules and regulations, and who doesn't mind dealing with lots of other people who abide by lots of rules and regulations, then go for it.
I wouldn't recommend it for creative types or entrepreneurs, unless you enjoy finding ways to get around rules and regulations.

If the military is for you, then I'd recommend the USAF, because they tend to have the best living conditions. If you like camping, go for the Army.

**JDawg1536** · 10-06-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Tock

It's a big bureaucracy that shoots people. If you're the sort of person who doesn't mind lots of rules and regulations, and who doesn't mind dealing with lots of other people who abide by lots of rules and regulations, then go for it.
I wouldn't recommend it for creative types or entrepreneurs, unless you enjoy finding ways to get around rules and regulations.

If the military is for you, then I'd recommend the USAF, because they tend to have the best living conditions. If you like camping, go for the Army.

That is one of the biggest problems I have, and it's gotten me in trouble more than once. I'm the type of person who tends to ask "Why?", which doesn't really fly most of the time. Like the saying goes, "Does it make sense? Is it fun? If the answer to either of those questions is yes, you can't do it.". I hope to never work for the government ever again.......

**LawMan018** · 10-08-2008, 12:41 AM

I'm currently in the U.S. Air Force however my experiences are not much. I'm on leave right now right out of Tech school. So far it has been "different"... It has its ups and downs, and you meet "real" people and make great friends. The rules and regulations suck sometimes, but once you go operational it gets much better (I've been told by several prior service in my school that for at least the first two years it's like college). I'm a firefighter and going through that school you meet a lot of people who wash out of special forces (firefighting is a popular choice among secial forces washouts). In fact, one of my good friends was going through Combat Control. If you're looking to do special forces you better be some hot shit. My good buddy failed out of the Air Traffic Control school you have to pass and that in itself is a brain drain. Other then that big reasons are injuries, particularly shin splints (nasty little things). I was not much of a cardio freak before the military, but now I am. I can jog 4 miles easy, I imagine I could go higher if I tried, but I currently have, guess what, shin splints. And mind you that's every morning and I still think I'm a far shot from being Combat Control or any other Special Forces applicable. Don't forget Combat Control school is around 2 years as well... So if it's what you "for sure" want to do, go for it... Just make sure you're mentally and physically prepared because it isn't a walk in the park...

**Dizz28** · 10-08-2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by warchild28

cool man but dont forget to start a thread about whether or not there is steroid testing in the military

There is no testing for AAS on entrance, during or exit from the military. Testing is only done if strongly suspected and cannot be proved by physical evidence

Originally Posted by CSAR

Cheers guys. Yeah, I was a corpsman (medic) in the Navy, but attached to a Marine Recon platoon during Operation Southern Watch.

So was I, 8404 in Camp Lejuene

**B.E.N.** · 10-08-2008, 04:37 PM

Just throwing out options. If you already have a degree and are determined to be involved in some type of military but would rather have a career with it you might consider Diplomatic Security as a special agent. You receive a shit ton of training, classroom and field, and get the career/pay.

Same down fall as Special Ops...you are out of the country quite a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma...curity_Service