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    2+2×2=?

    Ok, so my buddy and I had a pretty hefty 300 dollar bet going over this tricky equation. 2+2×2=
    I say that's the answear is 6 due to multiplication and division always has to be done first.
    He says the answear is 8, because he over looks the multiplication rule and just adds it in the order it is. Everyone else we asked at work they all replied with the 8.
    Is it me tripping that the answear is six or everyone else is being dumb?
    Please state your answear and explanation.

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    yahoo says 6 still looking for Y

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    when plugged into a calculator as stated 2+2 x 2 the answer comes up 6

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    Based on the commutative property of addition which multiplication, division and subtraction specifically lack... IE 2+3+4 is = 4+3+2 but 2*3*4 is not = 4*3*2 just a proof that Order of operation is important.

    And the order of Operations: PEMDAS as an acronym

    First: Parentheses
    Second: Exponents
    Third: Multiplication!!!!!
    Forth: Division
    Fifth: Addition!!!!!!
    Sixth: Subtraction

    So yes in a theoretical environment you are correct but if its being applied such as:

    1 group is 2 pallets and we have 2 groups and they are sending us 2 more groups how many pallets do we have...

    than 2 + 2 x 2 is appropriate disregarding the order of operations is appropriate.

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    I hate math y did I click on this? I came up with six tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post

    So yes in a theoretical environment you are correct but if its being applied such as:

    1 group is 2 pallets and we have 2 groups and they are sending us 2 more groups how many pallets do we have...

    than 2 + 2 x 2 is appropriate disregarding the order of operations is appropriate.
    I would write that (2x2)+(2x2)=8
    or (2x2)x2=8
    so, no, it's not appropriate...but incorret conversion of words.

    answer is 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I would write that (2x2)+(2x2)=8
    or (2x2)x2=8
    so, no, it's not appropriate...but incorret conversion of words.

    answer is 6
    i think he meant to say that 1 group= 2 pallets, we have 2 groups, and they are sending us two more pallets(instead of two more groups)

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    Ya I tied to google it and use the TI calculator and it all comes up with six. I'm not sure how else to prove it to them. They say there is no parenthasis around multiplication but there is also none around the +
    In that case you automatically plug them in yourself around multiplication and turns out to be 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i think he meant to say that 1 group= 2 pallets, we have 2 groups, and they are sending us two more pallets(instead of two more groups)
    that would be 2x2+2=6 and would also be same as 2+2x2=6
    that's why order of operations is important
    if that was what he was saying, he would have proved concept, rather than an exception to the rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    that would be 2x2+2=6 and would also be same as 2+2x2=6
    that's why order of operations is important
    if that was what he was saying, he would have proved concept, rather than an exception to the rule
    my bad, i didn't read what he wrote, i just thought he was writing a real world example to prove it, lol

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    Multiplication has priority over addition. So its like this:

    2+2x2= 2+4= 6

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    6 is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    that would be 2x2+2=6 and would also be same as 2+2x2=6
    that's why order of operations is important
    if that was what he was saying, he would have proved concept, rather than an exception to the rule
    You are correct it was a fault on my part...

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    anybody want to try this one

    square root(x^2+y^2)

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    The rule of order of operations states that multiplication comes before addition in an equation. Therefore the you multiply 2x2 first, then add 2.

    2+(2x2) = 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    anybody want to try this one

    square root(x^2+y^2)
    x+y?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    anybody want to try this one

    square root(x^2+y^2)
    |x+y| give me a break =P that is if ^ represents an exponent

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    Quote Originally Posted by mho View Post
    x+y?
    Its absolute value as it was not stated that the number is non negative so it could be any real number hence |x+y|

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    Quote Originally Posted by mho View Post
    x+y?
    you'd think so, but no

    plug in numbers and you'll see why

    let's say
    x=9
    y=9

    then square root(9^2+9^2); square root(81+81); square root(162)=12.72, but when you use x+y as the answer you get 9+9=18

    18=/(is not equal to)12.72

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    you'd think so, but no

    plug in numbers and you'll see why

    let's say
    x=9
    y=9

    then square root(9^2+9^2); square root(81+81); square root(162)=12.72, but when you use x+y as the answer you get 9+9=18

    18=/(is not equal to)12.72
    tricky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    you'd think so, but no

    plug in numbers and you'll see why

    let's say
    x=9
    y=9

    then square root(9^2+9^2); square root(81+81); square root(162)=12.72, but when you use x+y as the answer you get 9+9=18

    18=/(is not equal to)12.72
    well than I'm a retard lol

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    Wow, easiest $300 you ever made. Can't believe your friend bet on this.

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    The answer is 6 based off PEMDAS, your friends are retarded, end of story.

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    multiplication first
    2+2×2=
    2+4=
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    My coworkers are still coming up to me with their cheapy calculators and multiply it like this.
    2+2=4×2=8
    They just dont get the point and how it works. This is 3rd grade math so I dont know whats wrong with some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurik View Post
    This is 3rd grade math so I dont know whats wrong with some people.
    lol

    that's what I was thinking!

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    Brackets
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    order of operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    Based on the commutative property of addition which multiplication, division and subtraction specifically lack... IE 2+3+4 is = 4+3+2 but 2*3*4 is not = 4*3*2 just a proof that Order of operation is important.

    And the order of Operations: PEMDAS as an acronym

    First: Parentheses
    Second: Exponents
    Third: Multiplication!!!!!
    Forth: Division
    Fifth: Addition!!!!!!
    Sixth: Subtraction

    So yes in a theoretical environment you are correct but if its being applied such as:

    1 group is 2 pallets and we have 2 groups and they are sending us 2 more groups how many pallets do we have...

    than 2 + 2 x 2 is appropriate disregarding the order of operations is appropriate.
    multiplication is commutative... how is 2*3*4 different than 4*3*2??? oya, its not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild28 View Post
    i got 7
    lol!

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    The answer is 6.

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    it should be bracketed cus 2+2x2 doesnt make sense,unles you know the equation starts with the highest domineering function.in this case its x and not plus.

    so if it was written out by a scientist the equation would be 2+(2x2) = 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronan the barbarian View Post
    it should be bracketed cus 2+2x2 doesnt make sense,unles you know the equation starts with the highest domineering function.in this case its x and not plus.

    so if it was written out by a scientist the equation would be 2+(2x2) = 6
    WTF are you talking about. Scientists know the order of operators and in my experience most scientists like to do things the easiest possible way that works, so in a simple equation like that they would not bother with unnecessary brackets.

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    (2+2)x2=8
    but,
    2+2x2=6

    it's the law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54 View Post
    Brackets
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    Multiplication comes before division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mho View Post
    Multiplication comes before division.
    No it doesn't. They are the same thing and they are done at the same time.

    Just like addition and subtraction. Doesn't matter which order you do multiplication and division. Answer is the same.

    (2x2)/2 = (2/2)x2 = 2

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