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    going natty... damn it!!1

    god i love gear.. but i love my education that much more.....

    being accepted to the university of my choice comes with the sacrifice of my current budget...

    im used to eating 4000 calories a day, ill be lucky if i get in 3000 from now on and i obviously cant afford the juice... life sucks..

    so im sure imma lose some size and strength since i feel im past my genetic potential in the most obvious way....

    current stats
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    ill be happy if i stay at 250 with the same bf or drop to 240 at 11-12%...

    anyone out here gone natty and been able to hold pretty well???

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    that sucks.

    eat as clean as you can, keep that bf low while in school.

    just think, some day you'll be a big shot philosopher and make tons of money to buy gear.

    philosophers make alot of money, right?

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    jammy just make more money... home base business, affliate marketing, pt time job

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    solicit yourself to the girls at school.. or guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek7m View Post
    that sucks.

    eat as clean as you can, keep that bf low while in school.

    just think, some day you'll be a big shot philosopher and make tons of money to buy gear.

    philosophers make alot of money, right?
    no, but philosophers that go on to become lawyers do lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    jammy just make more money... home base business, affliate marketing, pt time job
    prob with that is it would have to be under the table, my financial aid is at risk...

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    jamy, congrats. Like derek said youll be a big shot some day and u can piss that $$ on gear!!

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    Your a smart guy in nutrition and workout routines, your gonna be fine. Also if your worried really worried if you have the will there is a way(in regards to affording gear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54 View Post
    solicit yourself to the girls at school.. or guys
    maybe i can get dsm to help me with that second part.. im sure he loves college boys.. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    no, but philosophers that go on to become lawyers do lololol
    ha.

    so you're going to grad school, then plan on getting your JD?

    anyway, I was natty in grad school. It sucked.

    Frankly, between the classes i was taking, and the classes I was teaching, I didn't have the time to properly cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek7m View Post
    ha.

    so you're going to grad school, then plan on getting your JD?

    anyway, I was natty in grad school. It sucked.

    Frankly, between the classes i was taking, and the classes I was teaching, I didn't have the time to properly cycle.
    hence my dilema

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    [QUOTE=jamyjamjr;4672120]god i love gear.. but i love my education that much more.....

    being accepted to the university of my choice comes with the sacrifice of my current budget...

    im used to eating 4000 calories a day, ill be lucky if i get in 3000 from now on and i obviously cant afford the juice... life sucks..

    so im sure imma lose some size and strength since i feel im past my genetic potential in the most obvious way....

    current stats
    6'4
    274lbs
    14%

    ill be happy if i stay at 250 with the same bf or drop to 240 at 11-12%...

    anyone out here gone natty and been able to hold pretty well???[/QUOTE]

    yep, i never lose gains going natty, lol

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    but u havn't cycled yet right phate?? it's a whole diff story when u've cycled a coupla times.. especialy when u just finished a tren /test cycle.. the gym is gonna get a bit depressing for the next few weeks.. ohh well.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    but u havn't cycled yet right phate?? it's a whole diff story when u've cycled a coupla times.. especialy when u just finished a tren/test cycle.. the gym is gonna get a bit depressing for the next few weeks.. ohh well.. lol
    i know bro, i was just playin with ya

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    damn u with your sarcastic humor at such a serious time!!!! lmao......

    im sure ill be able to still look good, just not as big.. i think this might actualy work to my benefit, i scare too many people just with my size..

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    jamy, we all need a lawyer-move out to the east coast when finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by ni4ni View Post
    jamy, we all need a lawyer-move out to the east coast when finished
    ill fly out there just for you bud.. lol... u can pay my with gear.. lots of it.. i dont come cheap!!!! lol

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    Jamy congrats on being accepted. It is goingto be a long mental intercourse for you to be committed to your body and loosing so much. Just steel yourself as best as possible so that you don't become another casualty of this wonderful war we have with nature. Always keep the end in mind, and focus on the benefits. Best of luck bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    ill fly out there just for you bud.. lol... u can pay my with gear.. lots of it.. i dont come cheap!!!! lol
    no prob- last child going to college soon-i'll be ready for ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by higherdesire View Post
    Jamy congrats on being accepted. It is goingto be a long mental intercourse for you to be committed to your body and loosing so much. Just steel yourself as best as possible so that you don't become another casualty of this wonderful war we have with nature. Always keep the end in mind, and focus on the benefits. Best of luck bro.
    thx for the kind words.. well said..

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    Jamy what the hell is this?

    Persians hold on to muscle like superglue holds on to whatever, you know that and I know that.

    We are the ancient warrior race with the most genetic potential, yes I sound biased, but let me tell you all the Persians I know who work out get big as **** wether juicing or not.

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    we'll see about that, shit i really hope so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    we'll see about that, shit i really hope so...
    If you are really worried about it, shoot me a PM and we can get you to cruise on test for real cheap.

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    im actualy being helped with that right now... i love this forum...

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    jam itll pay off in the long run though, then youl be a rich man to buy many more cycles... lol

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    yea, that's why im not tooo upset about it.. but it seems there's still hope... i might still be able to cycle while in school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    yea, that's why im not tooo upset about it.. but it seems there's still hope... i might still be able to cycle while in school...
    its possible althought your life will be consumed wiht studying, lifting, eating, juicing

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    Hope all turns out in your favour brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    prob with that is it would have to be under the table, my financial aid is at risk...
    put it under a dba or mom's name

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    put it under a dba or mom's name
    lol you and yur moms adress

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    You have what most do not on this board, a brain. Good luck !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyjamjr View Post
    god i love gear.. but i love my education that much more.....

    being accepted to the university of my choice comes with the sacrifice of my current budget...

    im used to eating 4000 calories a day, ill be lucky if i get in 3000 from now on and i obviously cant afford the juice... life sucks..

    so im sure imma lose some size and strength since i feel im past my genetic potential in the most obvious way....

    current stats
    6'4
    274lbs
    14%

    ill be happy if i stay at 250 with the same bf or drop to 240 at 11-12%...

    anyone out here gone natty and been able to hold pretty well???
    Congrats! bro... Future big time philosopher, you can always juice if you have a long vacation.

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    Thats one reason I am holding off on gear till im done with school. I looking to hopefully get into grad school soon. f'ing scared shitless about it.

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    Gratz on being accepted. Keep your eyes on the goal at hand which is to graduate and all the other stuff will fall into place. Can you grab extra food from the caf at school. This is what I do at work. I am friendly with the cook and when it is almost time to close I will go to the line and he will load me up with a to go plate. Usually gives me enough for two meals which helps with the grocery bill greatly.

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    Naw, man. You'll do just fine. You're a smart dude, you'll figure it out. Sounds like it's been taken care of anyway. Pays to have good friends I suppose.
    Last edited by CBGB; 06-04-2009 at 09:13 PM.

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    im natty also, i guess maintain your training and keep your diet up to scratch and you should maintain a lot of your gains.

    im assuming you will lose some what, but diet is the key and you know that anyway.
    so be aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Jamy what the hell is this?

    Persians hold on to muscle like superglue holds on to whatever, you know that and I know that.

    We are the ancient warrior race with the most genetic potential, yes I sound biased, but let me tell you all the Persians I know who work out get big as **** wether juicing or not.

    While i dont know about being the race with the most genetic potential, i will say that every Persian ive ever met is a crazy son of a bitch.

    IDK what it is with you guys, but seriously, you guys are about the only race of people that might be crazier than Brasileiros

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    While i dont know about being the race with the most genetic potential, i will say that every Persian ive ever met is a crazy son of a bitch.

    IDK what it is with you guys, but seriously, you guys are about the only race of people that might be crazier than Brasileiros
    Ever run into a native american drunk? That is crazy and you dont know what the fvck they are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    While i dont know about being the race with the most genetic potential, i will say that every Persian ive ever met is a crazy son of a bitch.

    IDK what it is with you guys, but seriously, you guys are about the only race of people that might be crazier than Brasileiros
    hahah yeah we are crazy sons of bitches.

    But honestly, I think behind Blacks and Western Europeans, Persians hold some of the best genetic potential for bodybuilding.

    I mean a Persian held the gold medals for powerlifting in the olympics for quite a while till he retired (I believe).

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