So You Can't Drink On Cycle...

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-16-2009, 07:23 PM

Now we can get drunk without alcohol!

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...t-2-fl-oz.html

Im actually gonna try this this weekend and see what the buzz is all about. haha get it? buzz.... lol man I need a drink

**POPS** · 09-16-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Now we can get drunk without alcohol!

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...t-2-fl-oz.html

Im actually gonna try this this weekend and see what the buzz is all about. haha get it? buzz.... lol man I need a drink

If you say its good Ill jump on that band wagon, lol. Its probably not as good as my jonnie walker blue, but Ill give it a shot if you think its worth it...

**Dont wanna be old** · 09-16-2009, 07:29 PM

Good luck , I will wait for your review .

Do tell if something crazy happens to you !

**HORSE** · 09-16-2009, 07:34 PM

Bartholomew, your nutz on top of that whole transgender thing you got going....

**Bryan2** · 09-16-2009, 08:43 PM

its alright deffenatley different than alcohol tho

**2jz_calgary** · 09-16-2009, 09:03 PM

how bad are those ingredients for you? Any legal stuff iver tried in the past gives a crappy buzz lol

**Bojangles69** · 09-16-2009, 09:04 PM

If the Kanna they put in that drink is LEGIT.

It is NOTHING Like alcohol. I'm sure almost noone in this forum is into ethnobotanicals (what Kanna falls under) but I have thoroughly researched and tried everything out there.

Kanna is FVCKN CRAZY **if it works**
The problem with Kanna is the instablity of its alkaloids from batch to batch, so the manufacturer absolutely needs to stablize and test all its batches.

I have tried Kanna many a times (its the only ingredient in there thats is going to do anything to you) and it literally feels like a weird from of x.
The euphoria at least is similar, just w/out the rapid heart beat and rush of blood to the brain. But DO NOT drink that shit if you are taking any SSRIs as kanna *IS* an ssri and you can kill yourself.

I'm sure they have warnings somewhere on the bottle or they would have already been sued.
If youd prefer, just buy fresh kanna leaves.

Kanna has some very amazing properties to it, the way it annihilates anxiety and increases your mood + the euphoria. Again I'm not sure what the dose it they're giving you but fresh Kanna will have you feeling like you took 10 xanax (euphoria wise is very powerful)

**PC650** · 09-16-2009, 09:05 PM

i wanna try it. anyone here every had it

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-16-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by HORSE

Bartholomew, your nutz on top of that whole transgender thing you got going....

LOL Shut it horsey!

Originally Posted by Bryan2

its alright deffenatley different than alcohol tho

Yeah I noticed that too. but hey, I got it for free, so I figured I try it.

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

If the Kanna they put in that drink is LEGIT.

It is NOTHING Like alcohol. I'm sure almost noone in this forum is into ethnobotanicals (what Kanna falls under) but I have thoroughly researched and tried everything out there.

Kanna is FVCKN CRAZY **if it works**
The problem with Kanna is the instablity of its alkaloids from batch to batch, so the manufacturer absolutely needs to stablize and test all its batches.

I have tried Kanna many a times (its the only ingredient in there thats is going to do anything to you) and it literally feels like a weird from of x.
The euphoria at least is similar, just w/out the rapid heart beat and rush of blood to the brain. But DO NOT drink that shit if you are taking any SSRIs as kanna *IS* an ssri and you can kill yourself.

I'm sure they have warnings somewhere on the bottle or they would have already been sued.
If youd prefer, just buy fresh kanna leaves.

Kanna has some very amazing properties to it, the way it annihilates anxiety and increases your mood + the euphoria. Again I'm not sure what the dose it they're giving you but fresh Kanna will have you feeling like you took 10 xanax (euphoria wise is very powerful)

Interesting Bo...very interesting...

**2jz_calgary** · 09-16-2009, 09:09 PM

hmmmm never tried xanax but i used to do lotsof e when i was younger....mabye ill give it a try. I bet youd dont even get hung over?

**Bojangles69** · 09-16-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary

how bad are those ingredients for you? Any legal stuff iver tried in the past gives a crappy buzz lol

Theres are legal things out there that give "buzzes" stronger then heroin.

One thing I've found out in life is legal by no way means boring or "crappy". Theres just usually a lot more factors to consider then just buying it and using it that the avg person overlooks.

Like the fact that more then half the distributors of legal drugs are selling immature or overdeveloped herbs. A lot of these drugs need to be harvested in ways that decrease profit for the manufacturer, so you wind up with cheap prices but shitty product.

Once you find out who the reputable sellers are however, its a completely different story.

**Bojangles69** · 09-16-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary

hmmmm never tried xanax but i used to do lotsof e when i was younger....mabye ill give it a try. I bet youd dont even get hung over?

No but before you drink this shot or take Kanna you need to read about it, you really should.

A lot of drugs you can eat on before you take them but Kanna only works if you haven't eaten in the last 2-3 hours. It has a sort of "switch on" dose where you need a specific amount to feel anything also, almost like E.

Something like xanax you can take .25mg and still feel it.
Something like this you always need around the same amount.

Too much and you get sick, too little and it doesn't reach your brain. So I def suggest researching Kanna so you have a good first experience, and no - no hang over whatsover. If anything its a very glowing happy feeling when you come down.

**CBGB** · 09-16-2009, 09:13 PM

I'm interested.

**2jz_calgary** · 09-16-2009, 09:15 PM

sure ill look into it....was in a car accident a while back and i got some demarol... wow talk about an amazing buzz lol

**elitepeptides** · 09-16-2009, 09:38 PM

beta-phenylethylamine........ l-pyroglutamic acid??????????

*facepalm*

**Bojangles69** · 09-16-2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by elitepeptides

beta-phenylethylamine........ l-pyroglutamic acid??????????

*facepalm*

They prep the brain receptors for seretonin transport, but I wouldn't expect you or a lot of people to know that.

They aren't worthless, BigSexy could of recommened 9 billion bullshyt subsitutions for alcohol but this one absolutely is proven to do what it says it does.(which makes me wonder how he even found out about it)

Just that it resembles x more then alcohol in effects. A closer replacement to alcohol would actually be Kratom tea imo.

**elitepeptides** · 09-16-2009, 11:34 PM

beta-phenylethylamine turns into dopamine and noradrenaline IF it passes MAOI-B in the small intestines. Pyroglutamic acid COULD be replaced with yohimbe, as that would kill the MAOI-B, hence my facepalm. Pyroglutamic acid just binds to the brainstem and pons. That = not felt in an e-like way.

**elitepeptides** · 09-16-2009, 11:38 PM

If they want a more alcohol one they could try a Phenibut/theanine/5-htp/Kratom/kava thing. I'm sure if I spent more time on formulation I could come up with something good. They seemed to be going for E-like though.

**Bojangles69** · 09-16-2009, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by elitepeptides

beta-phenylethylamine turns into dopamine and noradrenaline IF it passes MAOI-B in the small intestines. Pyroglutamic acid COULD be replaced with yohimbe, as that would kill the MAOI-B, hence my facepalm. Pyroglutamic acid just binds to the brainstem and pons. That = not felt in an e-like way.

Noone said it did feel like E.

We said the Kanna had a euphoria that shared symptoms of E.
And that b-PEA is a receptor modulator.

Your disagreeing with information that doesn't exist I am sorry I don't understand your point.

***El Diablo*** · 09-17-2009, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

If the Kanna they put in that drink is LEGIT.

It is NOTHING Like alcohol. I'm sure almost noone in this forum is into ethnobotanicals (what Kanna falls under) but I have thoroughly researched and tried everything out there.

Kanna is FVCKN CRAZY **if it works**
The problem with Kanna is the instablity of its alkaloids from batch to batch, so the manufacturer absolutely needs to stablize and test all its batches.

I have tried Kanna many a times (its the only ingredient in there thats is going to do anything to you) and it literally feels like a weird from of x.
The euphoria at least is similar, just w/out the rapid heart beat and rush of blood to the brain. But DO NOT drink that shit if you are taking any SSRIs as kanna *IS* an ssri and you can kill yourself.

I'm sure they have warnings somewhere on the bottle or they would have already been sued.
If youd prefer, just buy fresh kanna leaves.

Kanna has some very amazing properties to it, the way it annihilates anxiety and increases your mood + the euphoria. Again I'm not sure what the dose it they're giving you but fresh Kanna will have you feeling like you took 10 xanax (euphoria wise is very powerful)

Very interesting read Bo

**Older lifter** · 09-17-2009, 02:21 AM

Keeping my mouth shut and just reading,,,,, geeez bo you know your stuff

**elitepeptides** · 09-17-2009, 03:00 AM

My point is just as the first post. The formulation needs work. I explained why, I really don't care about an euphoria supp as much to warrant such biochemistry debate.

**Phate** · 09-17-2009, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by Older lifter

Keeping my mouth shut and just reading,,,,, geeez bo you know your stuff

it is a good debate, lol, if it wasn't so early i'd jump in but i think i missed most of it

**rockinred** · 09-17-2009, 06:50 AM

Bros, just be careful when messing around with buzzes(high's).... it's all good and you think you got it under control and real slick, only to find out you are addicted to it and it starts messing your life up. Too much of anything can be a problem. that's all I have to say about that.

**calgarian** · 09-17-2009, 07:12 AM

I dont drink when I am on cycle I just keep myself high on chicks.....why drink when u can fvck...right?

**energizer bunny** · 09-17-2009, 07:24 AM

fuk that just stick to the real deal.......why pay nearly £3 for a shot when a biscuit only costs 50p.....

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-20-2009, 09:37 AM

Didn't do jack shit for me...

oh well, I still got hammered and some road head

**Tjohn6231** · 09-20-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary

hmmmm never tried xanax but i used to do lotsof e when i was younger....mabye ill give it a try. I bet youd dont even get hung over?

xanax is one of my demons. Or, at least it used to be. In my early 20's, I would take about 4 or 5 lortabs, and 2 or 3 xanax just to get moving in the morning. It was a very bad time in my life. I kicked it all about 6-7 years ago.
Beware of any prescription drug like that.