What are we living for?

[slimy]

I have been around a lot of old people and cancer patients. People that knew they were going to die. Talked to them at great length. From all walks of life. Of various ages.

All of them had one thing in common. It wasn't the money, cars, or girls. They all wanted to be remembered. Just to know that they made a small difference in the short time they were here. It didn't matter what their religious beliefs were. They wanted to be remembered.

[BJJ]

I have been around a lot of old people and cancer patients. People that knew they were going to die. Talked to them at great length. From all walks of life. Of various ages.

All of them had one thing in common. It wasn't the money, cars, or girls. They all wanted to be remembered. Just to know that they made a small difference in the short time they were here. It didn't matter what their religious beliefs were. They wanted to be remembered.

Deep point.

[ranging1]

my responeses in blue


Originally Posted by ranging1
has anyone considered that we live for nothing?
I have not

why not?, do we really need to have a purpose? or is it just becuase we have the ability to think we have a purpose, that we believe we have a purpose?

that like ever other animal we are just the result after years of evolution?
Evolution? probably but surely not from this planet

why not from this planet BJJ? if we originated from another planet, then that planet had to originate from somewhere else aswell......

and the idea that ' we are living for something, or whats our purpose' is just a creation and an idea in our mind?

ideas develop either from fantasies or facts but both originate from actions or primordial instincts

out primordial instincts are based upon survival, so wouldnt that mean so are our ideas???

since we have by far the most developed brains compared to any other species. then its completely possible that we just created this idea


...by far considering only our planet; but what about other species outside somewhere... who might have brought life onto this planet in a remote past. so, how can you say we are the most developed while we are not even capable to put our feet on Mars

if another species so powerful was able to put life on this planet, then why hasnt it even contacted us clearly?

but then again isnt this just another idea??

i mean a few thousand years ago man was still trying to figure out how make fire, we hadnt even considered other species outside our planet, maybe it wasnt until we were aware of other planets that we grew this idea that theres other outside out world

maybe our idea of having a purpose is just that, 'an idea'
if you consider that many people live for nothing and literally waste their time...

the human mind is a complex thing that we still struggle to understand completely
so far yes, but think about those who believed that our planet was squared... or those who thought our planet was located in the middle of the universe... or those who thought the universe was infinite! it is just a matter of time and we will come across our mind's "secrets"

our minds secrets?? or just more ideas? or just greater ability to think?

i dont believe we are in the middle of the universe, since i believe the universe is just a movement through time, but we cant argue that were not in the middle of the universe since we cant prove that wrong

but a sad thing is in the end of the day, everything you feel (love, sadness, embaressment, happyness, courage, fear), every emotion u have, ever idea u create, everything you think is just cells and reactions in your brain taking place.
correct even though easily said. in any case those emotions come from actions mostly so the secret is the right action at the right moment to have the wanted emotion


all with the purpose of one thing
to try keep you alive and survive,
in the end of the day everything you feel means only something to you
becuase your brain (mind) is you
'homeostasis' it applies to everything within our body, including your brain, so evrytime you think something, its only becuase its what your brain after years of evolution has been designed to do
our minds are what maintains our survival
the ability to think is mankinds real weapon
I see no problem with those sentences

but maybe we dont have a purpose and like everything else we will evolve or become extinct eventually..........
...eventually

and the ability to debate or think we have a purpose, or think that maybe our purpose is (whatever you believe) is just your brain thinking about your survival, like every other creature on this planet
we could argue what our purpose is, but it seems that like every other human we all want to survive
no one wants to die tomrow, and that is what effects our judgement everyday of our lives (even when you think about what our purpose is) we have the right to will to survive

[BJJ]

my responeses in blue


Originally Posted by ranging1
has anyone considered that we live for nothing?
I have not

why not?, do we really need to have a purpose? or is it just becuase we have the ability to think we have a purpose, that we believe we have a purpose?

that like ever other animal we are just the result after years of evolution?
Evolution? probably but surely not from this planet

why not from this planet BJJ? if we originated from another planet, then that planet had to originate from somewhere else aswell......

and the idea that ' we are living for something, or whats our purpose' is just a creation and an idea in our mind?

ideas develop either from fantasies or facts but both originate from actions or primordial instincts

out primordial instincts are based upon survival, so wouldnt that mean so are our ideas???

since we have by far the most developed brains compared to any other species. then its completely possible that we just created this idea


...by far considering only our planet; but what about other species outside somewhere... who might have brought life onto this planet in a remote past. so, how can you say we are the most developed while we are not even capable to put our feet on Mars

if another species so powerful was able to put life on this planet, then why hasnt it even contacted us clearly?
I am one of those who believes they never left! They dominate us by forcing our minds to believe in religions mostly. At least this is what was done so far but now that the youth generations are not caring about religions anymore (we as humans are mentally evolving definitely), they need to find another reason to spread fear which they use to control and rule the world at their disposal. Probably, in a few years or decades, we will face a new sort of collective fear.

but then again isnt this just another idea??

i mean a few thousand years ago man was still trying to figure out how make fire, we hadnt even considered other species outside our planet, maybe it wasnt until we were aware of other planets that we grew this idea that theres other outside out world

maybe our idea of having a purpose is just that, 'an idea'
if you consider that many people live for nothing and literally waste their time...

the human mind is a complex thing that we still struggle to understand completely
so far yes, but think about those who believed that our planet was squared... or those who thought our planet was located in the middle of the universe... or those who thought the universe was infinite! it is just a matter of time and we will come across our mind's "secrets"

our minds secrets?? or just more ideas? or just greater ability to think?

i dont believe we are in the middle of the universe, since i believe the universe is just a movement through time, but we cant argue that were not in the middle of the universe since we cant prove that wrong

but a sad thing is in the end of the day, everything you feel (love, sadness, embaressment, happyness, courage, fear), every emotion u have, ever idea u create, everything you think is just cells and reactions in your brain taking place.
correct even though easily said. in any case those emotions come from actions mostly so the secret is the right action at the right moment to have the wanted emotion


all with the purpose of one thing
to try keep you alive and survive,
in the end of the day everything you feel means only something to you
becuase your brain (mind) is you
'homeostasis' it applies to everything within our body, including your brain, so evrytime you think something, its only becuase its what your brain after years of evolution has been designed to do
our minds are what maintains our survival
the ability to think is mankinds real weapon
I see no problem with those sentences

but maybe we dont have a purpose and like everything else we will evolve or become extinct eventually..........
...eventually

and the ability to debate or think we have a purpose, or think that maybe our purpose is (whatever you believe) is just your brain thinking about your survival, like every other creature on this planet
we could argue what our purpose is, but it seems that like every other human we all want to survive
no one wants to die tomrow, and that is what effects our judgement everyday of our lives (even when you think about what our purpose is) we have the right to will to survive

so long...

[MaNiCC]

Its all just opinions and speculation, i doubt we will ever find out the reason, at least not in our lifetime

[BJJ]

Its all just opinions and speculation, i doubt we will ever find out the reason, at least not in our lifetime

Yes but opinions and speculations come from researches and deep "lectures" as well as a will to put things together which, if taken singly, make not the same sense.

[Coldstarrynite]

Wow, deep thread. I just wanted to die someday knowing that I was someone to somebody, just want to make some type of difference.

The road to heaven is paved in hell.

[MONEY AND MASS]

we are an accident

[operationgetbig]

[Hazard]

Yep..... I would suffocate myself while eating it.....

~Haz~

[kalspic]

idk what you guys are living for, but me im living for the pursuit of happiness. and what makes me happy is making other people happy, and when other people are happy because of what you did they will remember you. just my 2cents