obama bashing

[gixxerboy1]

Like I said I believe the health insurance industry can be much better. However, the government isn't the answer. Look at what they run now and it's all corrupt and/or bankrupt.

Social Security
RMV
Post Office

What government agency have you dealt with that has been a good experience? I honestly can't think of any. Obama compared the Govenment plan to UPS and the US Post Office joking that the post office is almost bankrupt and not run properly. Do you really want someone in the government making a medical decision for you? I know that I don't.

Things need to change with the health insurance industry but the government option isn't the solution. What will happen when the government takes over is if their plan isn't working they won't just let it die. They will keep pumping money into it and over regulating the private sector forcing the competition out. Is this best for us? NOPE...

In the health care plan there was a section discussing End Of Life Care in which they said more or less "you're cheaper when dead". I don't know about you but I want to live as long as possible without exception I don't want some burocrat deciding if I live or die.

No i dont want some bureaucrat deciding if i live or die. But i dont want some insurance claims manger either. As it is now to get a surgery or expensive test or prescriptions you need pre authorisation. What do you think that is? Some one at the insurance company deciding if its cost effective to spend the money on you. Its the exact same thing.

all the seniors seem to freak if they think they are going to loose or have some change in medicare so apparently they are doing something correct with that.

[TITANIUM]

if america is anything like england, then theres no point complaining because fuk all happens, the public counts for nothing nowadays

This is why we need a revolution every couple of hundred years. To replenish the tree of liberty.

Life , liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And the freedom to have choice's to do so.

I hate tyrannical governments.

Best T

[dangerous dan]

This is why we need a revolution every couple of hundred years. To replenish the tree of liberty.

Life , liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And the freedom to have choice's to do so.

I hate tyrannical governments.

Best T

yeeee......T to be honest i havent a clue what your talking...

But sounds like a plan so ye lets have a revolution lol

[BgMc31]

BgMc, blacks are at an advantage right now, and you know that. It's the whites that have more trouble with coping with access to programs that they paid into with there taxes.Where as, blacks get more or less a free pass.

And gays are not allowed to act gay? For Christ sakes man!!! You are not allowed to have personal relationships while you are enlisted. This pertains to the time you are ON BASE! And it includes every body.Gay or straight. It can't be allowed, due to the conflict of interest it may have on your performance and mind set.

And women don't make as much as men? Bro, WTF are you talking about? That is ridiculous in itself. I know alot of wives and or friends that make MORE than there male counterpart.

Like I said, I was waiting to see your reaction to this post.
I knew it would get into the Black Man BS.

Let's see where you stand in say, a year from now, when you can't defend him anymore.

When things are so fvcked up, due to bad decision making on Obama's part.

Then it will be like,"we'll he's has no experience, that's what the problem was the first place".

Or,"well, he did the best job he could do because the Republicans screwed this up so bad, he couldn't fix it anyways".

Bro, I know he's your boy. I get it. But, you have to admit, that people on this forum do not like him. And it is not due to his skin color.

As a matter of fact, you are the one that always makes these posts turn into a racist event.

It's like the Confederate Flag thread that you turned into a black racist incident.

Prone and T-MOS railed on you about the true meaning of the flag.

I think country boy had it as his avy, and you complained to ADMIN about it.

If I was black, I would not have given a shit about it.

You turned it into a racist thing, not anyone else.

OK, you are obviously more educated then myself.I can tell by the way you write, and construct your debates.

Your black, and I am white. Do you think I care that you can write and be more articulate than me?

No, I respect it and am impressed by it.

Alot of people here debate and post threads that are unbelievably intricate in what they are explaining.

But, in the end of it all, the facts still remain.

You feel like you need to defend Obama, due to the fact that he is black.

Advice, get over the black chip that you have on your shoulder. But will not openly admit.

Like I said, it's an old card out of the deck.

Peace

T

PS-Bro, I like you. So don't think that I don't. I try to get along and help the best I can on this forum.

T, T, T...believe what you like brotha. I don't have a chip on my shoulder but it seems that you all won't see the obvious. Blacks at an advantage? C'mon brotha, I know you can't be that naive. Everyone wants to point to affirmative action... these programs haven't given anyone a leg up on anybody and please provide any data to back that those claims up. If you believe women are on equal footing with men, I've got some beach from property in Vegas to sell you. Here's the proof of that disparity, http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/census...aygapgrows.htm. The data is out there on wage disparities when it comes to race as well. I don't make this shit up, its the way it is. As far as your comment about gays...talk to Tock about that. And let's talk about the recent discharges of gays in the military...FOR BEING GAY!!! You cannot justify inequities no matter how hard you try.

As far as the confederate flag is concerned you pointed out that if you were black you wouldn't give a shit. BUT YOU AREN'T BLACK, so you can't speak for the emotion and history as to what that symbol stood for and what it continues to represent. I will stand up to what I believe against anyone. I will not back down.

You can call it 'Black Man BS' all you want. I bother's me none, but I will continue to point out the bs rhetoric against Obama. Like I said, if you all would point to things that are true and not 'shoulda, woulda, coulda's', then maybe these debates wouldn't be so heated. Just because you aren't prejudice doesn't mean that others aren't. Stats are stats.

If Obama is ****ing up next year, I will not make excuses. Ask BigSexxy, I railed against Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. I don't defend Obama because he's black. I defend him because of what he's attempting to do.

Call it what you want, T. I hold steadfast to my opinion.

[TITANIUM]

yeeee......T to be honest i havent a clue what your talking...

But sounds like a plan so ye lets have a revolution lol

It's cool bro.

It's just some quotes from the original framers of the US constitution.

All that matters is that your in!!!!


Best

T

[TITANIUM]

T, T, T...believe what you like brotha. I don't have a chip on my shoulder but it seems that you all won't see the obvious. Blacks at an advantage? C'mon brotha, I know you can't be that naive. Everyone wants to point to affirmative action... these programs haven't given anyone a leg up on anybody and please provide any data to back that those claims up. If you believe women are on equal footing with men, I've got some beach from property in Vegas to sell you. Here's the proof of that disparity, http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/census...aygapgrows.htm. The data is out there on wage disparities when it comes to race as well. I don't make this shit up, its the way it is. As far as your comment about gays...talk to Tock about that. And let's talk about the recent discharges of gays in the military...FOR BEING GAY!!! You cannot justify inequities no matter how hard you try.
As far as the confederate flag is concerned you pointed out that if you were black you wouldn't give a shit. BUT YOU AREN'T BLACK, so you can't speak for the emotion and history as to what that symbol stood for and what it continues to represent. I will stand up to what I believe against anyone. I will not back down.

You can call it 'Black Man BS' all you want. I bother's me none, but I will continue to point out the bs rhetoric against Obama. Like I said, if you all would point to things that are true and not 'shoulda, woulda, coulda's', then maybe these debates wouldn't be so heated. Just because you aren't prejudice doesn't mean that others aren't. Stats are stats.

If Obama is ****ing up next year, I will not make excuses. Ask BigSexxy, I railed against Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. I don't defend Obama because he's black. I defend him because of what he's attempting to do.

Call it what you want, T. I hold steadfast to my opinion.

I am not that naive, I just tell things as I see them.

I'll take the property anyways, even though it's not beach front.

I'm really not trying to, as it was not my intent.

That's the chip I'm talking about.

You shouldn't.

It's going to be a long debate in that arena.

Those were real easy targets, though.

That being socialism?

Bro, you are way to personally involved with this political issue, only due to the fact that you are black.

I talk about this Obama guy, and it turns into a black man racism issue.

I am in no way saying anything to you to get this heated response, you so call it.

Meaning, I like these debates. BUT, I do not take them personally.

You seem to get caught up in them, very emotionally upset by them.

This is not what I want to have happen. It is counter productive, if nothing else.

I'm not railing on you, as a matter of fact, you can tell who I like on this forum and who I do not.

Stop taking things so personal. It's not meant to be aimed at you.

Peace Bro.

Best

T

[RuhlFreak55]

Titanium = on point

i just didn't want to take the effort to break down all his 'points' lol. Not worth it because that 'chip' keeps him from seeing the truth

[RuhlFreak55]

oh....and....**** YES WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CALL TO ARMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!