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01-13-2003, 12:15 AM #1New Member
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You guys see the video of the cop shooting the family dog??
I saw this on CNN, pretty heartbreaking.
These Highway patrol officers pulled a family over cuz they mistakingly thought they had stolen their car, they had the mom, dad, and son, in handcuffs on their knees. with their guns drawn on them.
the family members told them to please shut the car door so the dog wouldnt get out, it was a mid size dog, in the video you see the dog get out of the car, and run around wagging it's tail and then approaches one of the officers who fires his shotgun at the dogs head and kills it in front of the family.
I'm usually always pro-police.. but I think this was unnessacary.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/09/po....dog/index.html
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01-13-2003, 12:25 AM #2
hey man, i want to see that...but your link has an error
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01-13-2003, 12:26 AM #3
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/09/pol...dog/index.html
here is one link...but no video
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01-13-2003, 12:30 AM #4
Damn, I want to see the real video...it just makes me sick to hear something like this actually occurred in America...
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01-13-2003, 12:33 AM #5
Big Rush the video is on that page but you have to be a member to view it... So stupid no way am I payin 10 bucks for something I'll never use again....
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01-13-2003, 10:58 AM #6Member
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welcome to america
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01-13-2003, 11:34 AM #7
Go here to watch the video: http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp...0&nav=1ugFDGSN
Damn dog was wagging his tail when he got out of the car and was coming up to the cop...I don't see how he could have felt "threatened"Last edited by woodsy169; 01-13-2003 at 11:39 AM.
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01-13-2003, 12:31 PM #8Anabolic Member
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Fuckinb Idiots....who would be affraid of a bull dog...I can see if it were a pit...but still...dumbshit cops!!!!!!!!!
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01-13-2003, 02:02 PM #9
Normally, when something put forth as "disgusting" happens involving the police, I am very quick to recall just how frightened and overreactive I've been when placed in far less threatening situations with far less dire and permanent consequences at stake. As such, though I am normally quite cynical when judging and evaluating an officer's behavior, I am, for better or worse, able to rationalize a great deal of the perceived injustices and tragedies as truly not the fault of the officer in question...or, at the very least, quite able to understand why they may have reacted wrongly without calling into question their kindness, sense of justice, sympathies, etc; i.e., I steadfastly maintain that 90% of officers in such situations feel legitimately horrible, and are indeed haunted by their actions in the surest sense of that word.
However, that being said, upon viewing this video, wherein i have scarcely seen a happier and more amicable dog given the situation, there is scarcely a part of me that wants to confer upon this "gentleman" anything remotely resembling human status. I may be very, very erroneous in my judgement, which is quite possible given I'm extrapolating a thirty second clip onto a lifetime, but in my estimation this individual's career was one long adrenaline-induced power trip. As unfortunate as it might be that this dog met such an end, I, for one, am quite relieved that it happened to a dog first, as I sincerely believe it was only a matter of time (and likely a short duration at that) before this individual's power-trip produced similar results, though with a human victim.
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01-13-2003, 02:18 PM #10AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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Big Green has got a point - there is a reason why you dont mess with TN local police - if you dont know somebody high enough up - the law is pretty much whatever they say it is till the state troopers show up - and nobody, but nobody messes with them. a bad deal - sorry for their dog but better the dog than a person - and surely that poorly trained cop would have gotten someone killed later on.
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01-13-2003, 03:00 PM #11Originally posted by BigGreen
Normally, when something put forth as "disgusting" happens involving the police, I am very quick to recall just how frightened and overreactive I've been when placed in far less threatening situations with far less dire and permanent consequences at stake. As such, though I am normally quite cynical when judging and evaluating an officer's behavior, I am, for better or worse, able to rationalize a great deal of the perceived injustices and tragedies as truly not the fault of the officer in question...or, at the very least, quite able to understand why they may have reacted wrongly without calling into question their kindness, sense of justice, sympathies, etc; i.e., I steadfastly maintain that 90% of officers in such situations feel legitimately horrible, and are indeed haunted by their actions in the surest sense of that word.
However, that being said, upon viewing this video, wherein i have scarcely seen a happier and more amicable dog given the situation, there is scarcely a part of me that wants to confer upon this "gentleman" anything remotely resembling human status. I may be very, very erroneous in my judgement, which is quite possible given I'm extrapolating a thirty second clip onto a lifetime, but in my estimation this individual's career was one long adrenaline-induced power trip. As unfortunate as it might be that this dog met such an end, I, for one, am quite relieved that it happened to a dog first, as I sincerely believe it was only a matter of time (and likely a short duration at that) before this individual's power-trip produced similar results, though with a human victim.
Oh thank god the cop shot the dog and not one of the humans, cause then we would really have a situation on our hands. Phew, I am definitely relieved! LOLLast edited by mammoth; 01-13-2003 at 03:02 PM.
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01-13-2003, 07:39 PM #12
I'd rather cops off humans instead of dogs. Call me crazy!
dogs are innocent and are sinless in my book, nothing but assets.
if a dog attacks someone its not raciest!
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01-13-2003, 10:09 PM #13
That was the worst thing I have ever seen!
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01-14-2003, 10:09 AM #14
Its a sad story. I think that cop will be dealt with appropriately, and the family will be compensated financially a great deal. Didn't see the video, and i don't know how old the son is, but thats not something i'd want to have my son deal with. Hearing a gun shot right next to you at point blank is scary for anyone, but trying to explain to him why the dog had to die is even tougher.
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01-14-2003, 10:45 AM #15AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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very sad for the family - what is bad tho is that they will no doubt will get a big $$$ that will come out of taxpayer funds that are already in the red down there - that is money that doesnt go for roads, social services, schools, etc.
Why couldnt we just have a public horsewhipping of the stupid cop?
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01-14-2003, 11:00 AM #16
Cycleon FOR GOVERNOR!
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01-14-2003, 02:10 PM #17
Im not saying the cops were right for shooting the dog or anything like that.......But the dog was definetly a pit bull.......you hear all the horror stories of what these dogs do to people and then all of a sudden your in a situation that is all ready heightened with adrenaline...and now you throw a pitbull into the mix........cmon....people can you honestly say that you wouldnt of done the same......if you watched the tape you would of seen the dog made a beeline straight for the cop....
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01-14-2003, 05:02 PM #18
It wasn't a pit bull...The cop only thought it was a pit bull. Its a shame, cause I am sure the cop was scared and did it out of fear. I don't blame the cop, however seeing as how this family was treated I would say that a serious penalty should be implied.......HORSEHWIPPIN' YEEEEEHAAAAAWWW!!!
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01-15-2003, 11:47 AM #19Junior Member
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this is a free video feed of the god if you havnt seen it. crazy. such a small dog! no need for it to be shot.
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01-15-2003, 12:54 PM #20Senior Member
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i can maybe see why they shot the dog they were startled dog comes up to you during a suspesion robbery case .. just its a sad deal pretty much the dog and the people were at the wrong place at the wrong time...
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01-15-2003, 07:17 PM #21
It looked much worse on the clear video, just a little dog that came out wagging its tail very fast and playfully running.
A bad judgement call by the officer and he sounded like an idiot in the interview he gave the press about how he was so scared, christ he could have punted that little thing 50 yards easily if he was scared. He shot it at about 12 inches from the muzzle. Now I don't place too much value on pets especially when measured against the value of humans but a pet can become a big member of someones family. The cops sure don't like it if you f*** with their dog, they treat them as humans when you assault or kill them.
The police officer should definitley pay any and all expenses and offer to buy a new dog at the least. Maybe he should invite them over and let them shoot his dog!
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01-15-2003, 07:28 PM #22
I cant see any of the vids...but thats allright i understand from your posts that it was totally unnecessary(sp) and that the cop should be fixed by a vet.
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01-17-2003, 12:57 PM #23Anabolic Member
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I'm sorry, but you know when a dog is a pit....those dogs are scary and have the most distint look to them...and a bull dog, you know a bull dog when you se eone....it was just a dumbshit hillbilly cop who didn't even know how to spell his name until they stenciled it on his uniform....
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01-30-2004, 12:12 AM #24
I live in a town probably 30 min away from cookeville and man i heard all about this stuff earlier this year and all i have to say is that i work for my local police department and ride with the officers frequently b/c that is what i want to be. And im not saying that he should have shot the dog, but given the situation he was at a high state of alert any sudden moves could be deadly for him or the other officer or the family. As a cop here in TN and in other places a stolen vehicle situation is regarded as a very high alert situation. Think about it, what kind of person steals a car? The fault fell on the cookeville dispatchers as it should b/c they made the mistake of dispatching the call as a stolen vehicle.
So please dont just automatically assume that this guy is a dumbass. He was just being protective. Doing his job. He freaked out at least it wasnt a person!!!!!!
Tank you just my .02
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01-30-2004, 12:27 AM #25
you know what i hate stupid ppl who think they know everything about what a police officer should do. If you think you could do better, try it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then talk all the **** you want.
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01-30-2004, 04:09 AM #26Originally Posted by j_dawg34
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01-30-2004, 04:30 AM #27
thats why im gonna go with N.W.A on all police matters and say **** tha police, they never do anything but bust your balls...
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01-30-2004, 08:20 AM #28Member
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Originally Posted by j_dawg34
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01-30-2004, 09:17 AM #29
not saying right or wrong either way...but that was a pretty big dog...not a little dog. No punting of the dog would have been possible. Not 30lbs either. More like 60 or 70 lbs. Hard to tell what kind of dog in the dark when it's running at you too.
Bad deal...I feel for all involved. Hopefully other police depts can use the video as a training tool of some kind.
Like someone said above...everyone was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Oh yeah...before we go calling each other bad names and hating on each other, let's all keep in mind it was just a dog. Granted it sucks the dog got shot and the situation the dog got shot in...but, it was just a dog.
If we are going to argue, let's argue about something more productive....like politics. That's something worth calling each other bad names over...RIGHT??!!
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01-30-2004, 12:52 PM #30
he could have punted that dog, stupid ass hick decides to have a power trip and shoot something, maybe his sister didnt give him enough head before he went to work that day. definatly could have been done a differant way
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01-30-2004, 01:36 PM #31
That dog was 35 lbs tops. Could have and should have been done differently. He was on high alert? Because of what? A family in handcuffs? What kind of family does carjackings. All the people were cuffed already. That **** was ludicrous.
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01-30-2004, 01:44 PM #32
Oh shiet....PETA is going to show up now!!!
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01-30-2004, 02:20 PM #33
geez...this is funny to see everyone get so worked up...I would say that the cop did over react, but in his defense, I could see how something like that could make you jump a little. It already is a tense situation and everyone's nerves are on end. But rather then evaluate the situation completely he reacted. But again in that situation...everything is on end as it is..
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01-30-2004, 02:26 PM #34Originally Posted by slamd097
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01-31-2004, 04:45 AM #35Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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01-31-2004, 06:34 AM #36
Some officers and some agencies have poorly trained or under trained officers. Hard to have over 50,000 U.S. LE agencies all trained properly but I can say that the police have come a long ways and are still training to become better servants to the public.
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01-31-2004, 06:46 AM #37Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by woodsy169
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01-31-2004, 06:58 AM #38
I seen this video a while ago when it first came out. I was appauled by it also. IMO the officer used poor judgement. I believe the stop was good relying on information the officers had but the individual exercised poor judgement. It's hard for officers after years of trust to the public keep every incident assessed properly. Many times officer's extend the hand of trust and get it bitten by idiots that run, attack the officer, or shoot them. One or two incidents like this in a career and any officer will treat any stop serious with over precaution.
You have to remember one thing. The officer's are hoping and thinking about trying to get back home at the end of the shift back to there own families, alive.
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01-31-2004, 07:38 AM #39
That is just F****D UP!! Stupid Roscoe P. Coltrane cop afraid of that dog??? Jeez!
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01-31-2004, 07:46 AM #40Retired Vet
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In that situation I'd consider an unleashed dog fair game and shoot him also.
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