Do you actually thurst what the medical community tells you?

[yannick35]

For me it all started with that H1N1 vaccin, i was starting my new job last year, and was getting up very early around 5am, and at 5:30am i passed infront of a clinic giving the vaccin, each morning there where around 1000 people waiting in line to get that H1N1 vaccin.

I was later discovered that this vaccin and virus was pushed way out of bound by the medical community and the pharmceutical companies to sell more vaccin.

How low can you go, each time you go visit a doctor and have some sort of illness they put you on pills, everything, they need to push the pills as much as they can to make money.

Now i am asking myself if we can really thrust them. I have read many benefits of eating less food and fasting, but yet have found on cancer webiste and other medical website that it does nothing.

But yet some studies done on fasting say that it can really help rid the body of tumors and other illness, will the body is in a fasted state it concentrates less on the digestive system. that to me makes sense but the medical community says there is nothing proving this.

Do they really want to cure cancer, and other illness... i seriously doubt it.

[Hoggage_54]

MY doc is tops, she's saved my life, isn't anti-aas and is knowledgeable about it, and always wants me off pills lol...

[yannick35]

MY doc is tops, she's saved my life, isn't anti-aas and is knowledgeable about it, and always wants me off pills lol...

Yes not saying all docs are bad sorry, my other medical doctor was quit good too, never putting me on pills and finding other solutions to cure illness, sometimes rest was the real cure.

[stack_it]

Do you actually thurst what the medical community tells you?

Nope. Usually when I'm thirsty I want water not doctors.....


I don't trust all doctors because there people just like us and you can't trust very many people.

[DSM4Life]

I will NEVER get a flu shot. These days people are trying their best to keep themselves/their kids in a bubble which i think is the wrong thing to do. We are suppose to get sick! Let nature take its course and let the immune system build itself up.

I also have never taken antibiotics even though i been written a script for them 1000 times. I go to the doc somethings when im really sick just to make sure im not dying, he checks me out says i am good and writes me a script for antibiotics. I leave the office and throw the script in the trash. Then i take the next few days off and rest as much as possible and bounce right back.

[LGM]

First, Doctors make no money by writing you a prescription. They make money by agreeing to see you, and billing your insurance company.

Do doctors want a cure for cancer? Absolutely. Does big pharma? Probably not, unless it helps their bottom line.

It amazes me how much doctors get blamed for things today, when they are almost as helpless in what they can and can't do because of the rules of various HMO's.

There's a reason they want a govt. sponsored health plan; it frees them up to do things as they see fit, instead of wondering if this patient's HMO will allow them to get an xray or a ct scan.

Or put another way; Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[cherrydrpepper]

STACK LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Do I thrust the medical community? No usually they f me on everything

[yannick35]

Last flu shot i got and i really mean first time and it was the last time was back in 2000 when they announced a terrible flu bug, that year i was freaken sick all year, i never get sick. So no more flu shots for me ever.

[DSM4Life]

First, Doctors make no money by writing you a prescription. They make money by agreeing to see you, and billing your insurance company.

Do doctors want a cure for cancer? Absolutely. Does big pharma? Probably not, unless it helps their bottom line.

It amazes me how much doctors get blamed for things today, when they are almost as helpless in what they can and can't do because of the rules of various HMO's.

There's a reason they want a govt. sponsored health plan; it frees them up to do things as they see fit, instead of wondering if this patient's HMO will allow them to get an xray or a ct scan.

Or put another way; Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Doc asked me before How good is your plan at covering prescriptions? I said I don't know, why ? He said I know they cover this certain drug but i really want you to take this but im not sure if they will pay for it. Im thinking in the my head WTF. If he wants me to take that other stuff obviously he think its better for me so why the @#$ wouldn't they cover it ?

[Stigmata101]

Doctors DO make money b y writing prescriptions.....They get kick backs from drug companies....for example a doc prescribes a certain antibiotic to you even though there are ten different kinds that will get the job done. The company that makes that certain antibiotic gives the doc a "kick back" usually every month or three months. Its a legal loop hole in the system. This is why one doc will push for a certain drug and a different doc will push for a dif one. They've made a deal with the rep of the drug company

[Nooomoto]

I once got a flu shot, and got the flu from it. Never again.

[Hazard]

First, Doctors make no money by writing you a prescription. They make money by agreeing to see you, and billing your insurance company.

Do doctors want a cure for cancer? Absolutely. Does big pharma? Probably not, unless it helps their bottom line.

It amazes me how much doctors get blamed for things today, when they are almost as helpless in what they can and can't do because of the rules of various HMO's.

There's a reason they want a govt. sponsored health plan; it frees them up to do things as they see fit, instead of wondering if this patient's HMO will allow them to get an xray or a ct scan.

Or put another way; Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Last I checked..... the vast majority of doctors in the US were against a government run health plan. They'd have so many other problems to deal with.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

Doc asked me before How good is your plan at covering prescriptions? I said I don't know, why ? He said I know they cover this certain drug but i really want you to take this but im not sure if they will pay for it. Im thinking in the my head WTF. If he wants me to take that other stuff obviously he think its better for me so why the @#$ wouldn't they cover it ?

This comes down to the health plan you were provided or selected. Some plans don't cover name brand..... some do at a higher cost..... and the more expensive plans will cover the name brands for just a small fee. It's not just your insurance plan..... almost everyone has a drug thats not covered on their plan.

~Haz~

[Igifuno]

Last I checked..... the vast majority of doctors in the US were against a government run health plan. They'd have so many other problems to deal with.....

~Haz~

You're right, the medical community is generally agains the gov't run health plan.

It would cause an array of issues for citizens as well...such as the waiting time to see a GP would quadruple.. there would be much more checks and balances as it relates to prescriptions... I think it blows..

[PistolStarta]

I have anxiety and no matter what I tell my doctor he always throws me on anti-depressants which don't help me in the least bit. I trust specialists more than my general practitioner

[JJ78]

I know for a fact that doctors get shit for sellin drugs.

A good friend of mine was a rep for Pfizer

And the doctors would get plane tickets, cruises, trips and cash incentives.

I know so many people who had a injury and instead of surgery they got hooked on oxycotin and xanax.

Oxycotin is harder to kick than heroin.

Its just like giving methadone toheroin addicts. Methadone is harder to get off of than heroin, but drug companies lobby congress so their drug is legal and ol Tito down on the corner is gonna get 10-25 yrs for selling somebody something they want.

79.999% of doctores are legal drug dealers. And the biggest industry in America is Big Pharma. And third is priavatized prisons.

Think about it.

[JJ78]

We have 5% of the worlds population and 85% of the worlds prison population.

And 70% of the prison poulation is in there for drug charges.
And 65% of them are there for weed.

Kind of ****ed up. Huh?

[LGM]

http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2009/...9s-the-answer/

American Medical Association supports Obama health care plan.

Altruistic reasons? Of course not. But they are in favor of it.

As for the "payments", yes, they offer doctors trips and other stuff to get them to use their drugs. That is no different than almost any other sales/marketing promotion. I give away free stuff to radio jockeys so they'll say nice things about me on radio. The hope is that they bring me new business. They aren't forced to sell those drugs, and I know my doctor takes his whole family on them for vacation, but doesn't prescribe certain drugs because he doesn't like their effects.

I'd be willing to bet that most doctors do what is in the best interest of their patients, for the most part.

[LGM]

We have 5% of the worlds population and 85% of the worlds prison population.

And 70% of the prison poulation is in there for drug charges.
And 65% of them are there for weed.

Kind of ****ed up. Huh?

Link?

[vanduhl]

[JJ78]

Give me a minute. I have seen the figures in a few doc. movies. Ill get a link up

[JJ78]

here is one

6.5 millon Americans arreted in the last decade for weed
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3378

http://www.pewtrusts.org/our_work_re...FQVZiAodVXUA8g

[JJ78]

This says 60% for drugs

http://www.pewtrusts.org/our_work_re...FQVZiAodVXUA8g

[LGM]

That's correct. White wine with fish.

[JJ78]

And that is people who have been sentenced

[JJ78]

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1209-01.htm

[JJ78]

Sorry for hijackin

[LGM]

This says 60% for drugs

http://www.pewtrusts.org/our_work_re...FQVZiAodVXUA8g

That doesn't talk about drugs. It's a link to the population decline in state prisons, and it discusses how they are doing it - by not imprisoning 1st time offenders and drug possession charges.

And if you're basing your calculations on the number listed there, then you didn't add the federal prison count.

I don't disagree with your premise that drug offenses are too high, that a number of drugs should be legalized. I don't doubt at this pace we'll reach those numbers, but we just aren't quite there yet.

[JJ78]

UR right. That one did not back any thing up that I said.

There other ones do to an extent. My figures might be a little off.

The point is, is that our country is dependent on "legal" drugs. People are walking around in a haze with their eyes shut to what is going on around them.

And this is what our elected officals, and corporations want.

Prescribing adderal and antidepressants to children? What the ****. Anti depressants cause teens to have suicidal thoughts.
IE thae kid on bigger stronger faster.

Steroids killed him? No it was the legal compounds he was ingeting.

[Nicotine]

simply, no.

i believe it's all funded/run by big money drug manufacturers..... plain and simple.

[DSM4Life]

simply, no.

i believe it's all funded/run by big money drug manufacturers..... plain and simple.

Is that a unicorn on your back