Apache attacks camera crew in Iraq.

[stack_it]

A buddy of mine told me about this and I haven't seen it on here so if I figured I'd share it with y'all. Can't really blame the pilots. I'm sure the cameramen knew they were in danger of being fire upon while over there. Still sucks all the way around tho.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qWA...e_gdata_player

[stack_it]

Here's the full version from the chopper without the reporters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25EWU...e_gdata_player

[Stigmata101]

Thats fvked up......

[goodlifting]

it does suck, bro. don't walk around an active war site with a dark object that has a shoulder strap. and if you have to, make damn sure that dudes in apaches know that you're not a threat.

o and bring a couple of children to a site that is being engaged by a fifty cal to retrieve the bodies...smart.

[PistolStarta]

If you research it deeply you'll find out a man in the crowd did have an AK 47 pictures of it can be found in the aftermath. Reporters in a hotzone should know better. and also I agree with Goodlifting, clearly bringing kids into a place where carside bombs are a problem isnt smart. Here we go Blame the Americans.

[DOM6]

doesnt look like the US was aiming at them, looks like they caught someone elses attack

[cherrydrpepper]

When war starts the devil makes room in hell

[stack_it]

If you research it deeply you'll find out a man in the crowd did have an AK 47 pictures of it can be found in the aftermath. Reporters in a hotzone should know better. and also I agree with Goodlifting, clearly bringing kids into a place where carside bombs are a problem isnt smart. Here we go Blame the Americans.

Im not blaming America. I would have done the same thing.


If you believe they had an ak on them just because there's a still photo of one in the aftermath you are way too naive. Not saying 100% that there wasn't but chances are the soldiers put it there to cover there asses.

[HitIt]

ah, internet armchair battle damage assesments....gotta lov em

[PistolStarta]

No if you listen to them they say they see guns. From a helicopter could you tell the difference between a gun and a telephoto lens in a hotzone?

Also I wasn't talking about you blaming America.

[PistolStarta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25EWU...eature=related

Here's the raw footage look at 55-58 seconds and there is a man with an AK 47 looking item and one with what looks like an RPG in an area where RPG fire is happening, whom arent the reporters.

[stack_it]

No if you listen to them they say they see guns. From a helicopter could you tell the difference between a gun and a telephoto lens in a hotzone?

Also I wasn't talking about you blaming America.

Wasn't sure if you were talking about me so I just clarified it.

I know they say it looked like an ak47 but there's no telling if it really was by that video. To me it would seem smart for the camera crew to have protection.

As far as the rpg goes. A tv camera on the shoulder of a guy could easily look like an rpg.

I agree with a lot of your view on this but I don't think blame can be pointed in either direction. It's a war and tradgedies like this happen everyday.

You can blame the people for bringing kids tho. That's just dumb.

[Epic1]

i love how media skews with everything and makes it seem like something its not.

[Epic1]

people over there dont even care about their kids. They have shot kids in school yards for looking wrong at people. The value for human life over there is rediculous. Cows are worth more

[DSM4Life]

I think videos like this shouldn't be released to the public.

I love when they talk about "rules of engagement." Give me a #$#ing break. What rules do these guys follow ?

[stack_it]

ah, internet armchair battle damage assesments....gotta lov em

Every conversation is an armchair assessment of something. Like this one is an armchair assessment of how useless you are.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

people over there dont even care about their kids. They have shot kids in school yards for looking wrong at people. The value for human life over there is rediculous. Cows are worth more

Nonsense. Its the religion of peace!

Its you Americans who are the problem. Death to all infidels!

Where is Moose?

[Epic1]

I think videos like this shouldn't be released to the public.

I love when they talk about "rules of engagement." Give me a #$#ing break. What rules do these guys follow ?

or maybe you liked the roe back in 04 when we had to get shot at first? what is your ideal roe?

They change depending on the situation. We are actually probably the only country that follows the geneva convention really.

Why should we follow it if they dont? yet we do. We do nothing but try to do the right thing and something like this pops up and everyone gets pissed off.

WOuld you be more pissed if you saw a video of american troops getting shot at ..but cant shoot back until they are given ordres to? and our troops die?

****in whiny ****in people these days. everyone wants to bitch about something. but no one wants to pick up an m4 and fight.

[HitIt]

Every conversation is an armchair assessment of something. Like this one is an armchair assessment of how useless you are.

I must have struck a nerve for a personal attack like that....

[stack_it]

I must have struck a nerve for a personal attack like that....

Yea you forgot to aspirate too.

[DSM4Life]

or maybe you liked the roe back in 04 when we had to get shot at first? what is your ideal roe?

They change depending on the situation. We are actually probably the only country that follows the geneva convention really.

Why should we follow it if they dont? yet we do. We do nothing but try to do the right thing and something like this pops up and everyone gets pissed off.

WOuld you be more pissed if you saw a video of american troops getting shot at ..but cant shoot back until they are given ordres to? and our troops die?

****in whiny ****in people these days. everyone wants to bitch about something. but no one wants to pick up an m4 and fight.

Which is why i said, videos like this should not be shown to the public.

[Epic1]

i guess i misunderstood your first comment. i thought youw ere talking about our guys not follow the roe's. my bad

[DSM4Life]

i guess i misunderstood your first comment. i thought youw ere talking about our guys not follow the roe's. my bad

Nope i think the roe's is a bunch of BS. The idea of it sounds nice but when we are the only ones following it we looks like retards.

[Nooomoto]

Nice to see the Apache working out. Sucks they died if they indeed were civilian reporters, but usually when I don't feel like being shot at by military aircraft I stay out of warzones.

[stack_it]

, but usually when I don't feel like being shot at by military aircraft I stay out of warzones.

That usually works.

[vanduhl]

that was a trailor for COD MW3

[jtuner77]

Im not blaming America. I would have done the same thing.


If you believe they had an ak on them just because there's a still photo of one in the aftermath you are way too naive. Not saying 100% that there wasn't but chances are the soldiers put it there to cover there asses.

I am.....trigger happy rednecks

[lovbyts]

or maybe you liked the roe back in 04 when we had to get shot at first? what is your ideal roe?

They change depending on the situation. We are actually probably the only country that follows the geneva convention really.

Why should we follow it if they dont? yet we do. We do nothing but try to do the right thing and something like this pops up and everyone gets pissed off.

WOuld you be more pissed if you saw a video of american troops getting shot at ..but cant shoot back until they are given ordres to? and our troops die?

****in whiny ****in people these days. everyone wants to bitch about something. but no one wants to pick up an m4 and fight.

SLOW down, he is saying the same thing as you. LOL Read his post again. You are only arguing with yourself....

[lovbyts]

Nope i think the roe's is a bunch of BS. The idea of it sounds nice but when we are the only ones following it we looks like retards.

ROE only work in the ring when there is a referee. War sucks, there are always casualty but it's even worse when the enemy is arming 8, 10, 12 year old kids with guns and they are your enemy. Why do you think so many people come back fvcked up in the head. I could not imagine and neither could most of us unless we have been through it.

[zaggahamma]

must be invisible apaches since the van came and more guys walk in the open providing more targets

[stack_it]

must be invisible apaches since the van came and more guys walk in the open providing more targets

Im sure not seeing an apache flying overhead is more of a rarity.

[numbat]

must be invisible apaches since the van came and more guys walk in the open providing more targets

These guys are being engaged from afar. most of the people being trounced by Apaches never hear or know where the fvck it's coming from. thousands of meters at times. many times the insurgents aren't even running in the right direction, or think they're safe after finding a bit of cover.

I would rather be hellfired than have to try and run from that ungodly 30mm cannon bursting in my direction:




I don't agree with DSM. Vids like this bring the war into perspective and it forces you to pull your head out of the sand for a minute and experience the atrocities people in war zones have to endure on a daily basis.

maybe vids like this will inspire more people to help end these wars or prevent future mistakes. i know it sounds cheesy but sometimes a dose of reality can change things.

"only the dead have seen the end of war." Plato

[Dont wanna be old]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25EWU...eature=related

Here's the raw footage look at 55-58 seconds and there is a man with an AK 47 looking item and one with what looks like an RPG in an area where RPG fire is happening, whom arent the reporters.

I saw what you mentioned .
Bad things happen in bad situations .

[Stigmata101]

This gives some perspective as to just how big those 30mm rounds are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:30_mm.jpg

[Superhero d-bolman]

Im sure these apache guys just thought they were guys armed with rpgs instead of cameras, im sure they feel awful knowing now that they were reporters.

[numbat]

This gives some perspective as to just how big those 30mm rounds are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:30_mm.jpg

nice one. wonder what that sounds like whizzing over your head

[Nooomoto]

nice one. wonder what that sounds like whizzing over your head

Ask the reporters from the video...oh wait...to soon?

[cherrydrpepper]

We should just move up the skynet program. No one would ever start a war with us again. Then we can amend the law so arnie can be president. That would be a badass US.

[numbat]

Ask the reporters from the video...oh wait...to soon?

Siiiick... I can bet it's not a pleasant sound. and it very well may be the last sound you ever hear.

you can , but will shvt on you

[numbat]

We should just move up the skynet program. No one would ever start a war with us again. Then we can amend the law so arnie can be president. That would be a badass US.

get to da choppa