What is SAFE and what is DANGEROUS to inject?

**Skyler** · 09-17-2010, 02:48 PM

Ok, so here it is. I am going to tell you about a question my "friend" asked me.
Most of you will probably assume I am actually asking for myself.
But in this case, I actually am asking on behalf of a friend.
He asked me an injection question...
I have no idea what to tell him, and don't want to guess in case i am wrong...
So i am asking you guys.

Ok, so I was reading up on proper synthol use, and how it is designed to stretch the muscle fascia. I actually learned alot about it that i did not know.
I was telling him what i had read about it, and he hopped online and also started reading.
He decided Synthol is something he would be willing to try, but doesn't want to pay the high price.
So his question to me was "Well, i mean, I could just inject like grape seed oil and it would do the same thing, right?"

Ok, here is where I get lost. Between what he read, what i read, and then our conversation, the highlights were this. Reading has told us that AAS injections also stretch the facia, but not as along term as Synthol, since the body processes it faster.
So then that led to the idea that if one were to hypothetically inject AAS in the same location every day, then the oil would be in that location more regularly, and might stretch the fascia similarly.
Ok, now we go to how much AAS he would have to buy (something like prop that requires daily injections).
He still doesn't want to drop money on a bunch of AAS for a result he isn't sure he will attain.

So this leads him to the conclusion that AAS is usually brewed with grape seed oil, or something similar. Grape seed oil is also cheap and easy to attain. So he is searching for my approval.

The problem is, I don't know what to tell him. I don't want him to hurt himself, but I also don't want to try to talk him out of it with a bad arguement, sound like an idiot, and have him then ignore me and do it anyway.

My concern is that I ASSUME that injecting straight Grape Seed oil daily would cause some sort of problem, I mean something, like scar tissue, infection, etc.
I don't know if I am right though. I mean, I am almost certain in would cause some sort of problem, but I have never thought of doing this, and I have never spoken with anyone who has. So, its never come up, and I have no idea what to tell him.

Any tips? Anything I should know or that i should maybe play up to make it sound like an especially bad idea, that he won't be able to immediately google, and find out that i am full of shit?

Any advice, knowledge, etc would be much appreciated.

**MaNiCC** · 09-17-2010, 02:49 PM

You would recieve more responses if you posted in the Q&A section

-MaNiCC-

**Skyler** · 09-17-2010, 02:52 PM

Well, since this is a question about injecting something that is not an AAS, and it is a bit random, I figured I might get more help in here.

**MaNiCC** · 09-17-2010, 02:54 PM

we shall see.

**Skyler** · 09-17-2010, 03:20 PM

Ok, well, don't want to argue. You may be right.
I just see people post alot about sports, pro bodybuilders, AAS, bodybuilding, powerlifting, etc in the lounge, and not in the Sports section, Pics of pro bodybuilders section, Steroids Q&A section, Bodybuilding section, Powerlifting Section, etc.
I didn't really think about it too much to be honest. I am just used to seeing almost everything posted in here, and didn't think about it. I was reading stuff in the lounge, i had a question, and just hit the "new thread" button.

If it needs to be moved thats ok. I don't really mind where it is posted, just looking for some input.

**scorpion62** · 09-17-2010, 04:40 PM

Skyler if you wont to show him its a bad idea then show him some of the links where its went wrong for some of the guys that do that shit,putting that crap in to you in vast amounts leds to infections,Tell him that there is major down sides when putting anything in to your body plus you would have to heat and filter the oil to make sure its clean Grape Seed oil thats getting put in to his body

**stack_it** · 09-18-2010, 01:22 AM

Daily injections into the se muscle just seems like asking for infection. When daily injections are done with prop the sites are rotated.

Show him pictures of synthol gone bad from bloated muscle look to infections. Tell him that the grapeseed oil injections could just as easily cause an infection.

Tell him if he wants to get big stop being fvkin cheap and lazy. He sounds like he's trying to find a way to big muscles with little work.

Also to answer the question in the title. Bleach and battery acid would be two things that are for sure on the dangerous list....(sorry I had to since it is in the lounge

)

**Mr.Rose** · 09-18-2010, 06:05 AM

Grapeseede oil will not work.. why? because it does not stay in the muscle long enough, medium chained triglycerides stay for weeks which means then have time to stretch the fascia. It only takes mere hours for normal oils to leave the muscle.

If left in long enough, yes anything, from water to battery acid will stretch it, but only if it stays in for weeks.

Will he gain muscle from stretching his fascia? No, do you want to know why? because he can easily add 20kg of muscle on him to what his natural fascia will stretch. Only people who will get benifits from it are the elite pro's who ahve so much muscle on there frames already, aka ronnie.

**Hazard** · 09-18-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

Grapeseede oil will not work.. why? because it does not stay in the muscle long enough, medium chained triglycerides stay for weeks which means then have time to stretch the fascia. It only takes mere hours for normal oils to leave the muscle.

If left in long enough, yes anything, from water to battery acid will stretch it, but only if it stays in for weeks.

Will he gain muscle from stretching his fascia? No, do you want to know why? because he can easily add 20kg of muscle on him to what his natural fascia will stretch. Only people who will get benifits from it are the elite pro's who ahve so much muscle on there frames already, aka ronnie.

EXACTLY ^^^^

~Haz~

**Hoggage_54** · 09-18-2010, 02:18 PM

Don't inject AIDS

**Skyler** · 09-18-2010, 02:48 PM

Ok, so basically the speech should highlight that injecting anything but actual synthol won't do him any good, because it doesn't stay in long enough, and that any attempt to inject in the same spot every day runs a big risk of infection or other complications?

Ok, well, everything everyone has said makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for the input!
Oh, and I was doing some more research, and I have no experience with synthol, so It might just be bs, but i read that synthol is VERY painful to inject, like constant pain. So i will probably highlight severe pain, high risk of infection, and no results to show for the trouble.

Thanks again!

**Morgoth** · 09-19-2010, 06:08 AM

Synthol is shit. All you have to do is inject yourself and you gain size. No work is involved (such as diet and working out with weights) Also, the size you gain looks clownish.