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    I'm fvcking depressed

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    bro let me just tell you, you have a lot to look forward to and the dedication that you are putting fourth in yrou life rite now will pay of ten fold. There is plenty of girls out there that are not into that type of thing and the majority of them as soon as they hit 24+ they become so ****en insecure about being fat and alone their whole life that a lot of of them grow up out of that phase. You are sooooooo young man. Just keeping making good choices sounds like you have a really good head on your shoulders. congrats on your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    bro let me just tell you, you have a lot to look forward to and the dedication that you are putting fourth in yrou life rite now will pay of ten fold. There is plenty of girls out there that are not into that type of thing and the majority of them as soon as they hit 24+ they become so ****en insecure about being fat and alone their whole life that a lot of of them grow up out of that phase. You are sooooooo young man. Just keeping making good choices sounds like you have a really good head on your shoulders. congrats on your progress.
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    looks like your gunna have to start fvckin on the first date haha

    but in all serious i respect you. i also dont live a wild life at the age of 19. (19 is legal drinking age here) i go out like once ever 2-3 months. i get this feeling to i feel like the biggest loser. but i know one day im going to look at myself and be like ya it was worth it

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    Yeah man i know what u mean, i can relate being 21 aswell... sumtimes even pretending your a party animal helps, u can still go out and go clubbing, dancing (cardio) take a bar or a shake with you and leave it in the car or sumthing. you need a balance in your life! or you will end up depressed as you do. find that balance, there are ways around training and partying you just need to find them

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    I totally understand. Well, let me just say that I am 27 years old and I am not even in as "good" situation as you. At least you are hanging out with chicks... I don't even do that anymore.

    I go to school, eat, lift, sleep...and it just repeats.

    You have all the good things coming to you man... focus on achieving that superior physique and some day you will meet that girl that is looking for the type of the guy that YOU ARE. She also will appreciate the fact that you look great.

    I don't know if that helps at all... try not to stress too much about it.

    I might be on the down low now... but wait till I am ready to roll... it will be great.

    Good luck and keep it strong!

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    i actually read a post about this some where the whole college life thing imma look for it

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    x2 man

    When Girls grow up they do they appreciate that sort of thing. I am 38 and quit partying years ago. Haven't missed it a bit....in fact women (and men alike) look at me drinking a water at social functions and most of the time they give me props and they say that they wish they could not drink and still have a good time when they go out. You will see...stick with it....things will change in a couple years.

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    Dedicated bodybuilding means saccrifices but it doesn't mean you have to shut out the world completely. You can still enjoy yourself with friends and not be into the party life. Most of my friends are into many different drugs and alcohol, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying their company. I just don't participate in some of the things they do.

    I hope your not depressed due to the fact you can't find a girl that isn't into a purely healthy lifestyle. Depression is a part of everyday life for everyone in many different forms, so it's not out of the norm. It's when you let depression take seige of everything that it becomes a serious problem.

    So yes I've been through depression phases, I mean who truly hasn't? Maybe you should spend more time with friends and worry less about finding the right date.

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    HP posted this somewhere so thanks to him

    College Drinking

    Drinking is a part of college life. I mean lets be realistic, virtually everyone who goes away to college experiments with drinking. Even I did. I drank all of last year and part of this year before I realized it was time to put a stop to it. However the reason I stopped was not because I feared becoming an alcoholic or because my drinking was out of control, on the contrary.

    I was a responsible drinker and I knew my limits and I never crossed them. I also made it a point to confine my drinking to the weekends only. Now if you are not a competitive bodybuilder and you just want to look good, it's ok to go out and drink on the weekends, not heavily mind you, but a 6 pack won't kill you. Some ways that you can make sure that the alcohol affects your muscle building as little as possible are the following...


    * Consume about 50g of slow digesting protein (casein) before you begin to drink. Since I doubt you will want to fix a chicken breast while your kicking it with your buddies, the slow digesting protein will help keep you out of catabolism while you drink.



    * Take a vitamin an hour before you drink. Many vitamins are not absorbed while you drink and thus taking a vitamin before you drink gives your body a chance to absorb these vitamins before the alcohol is introduced.



    * Consume a lot of water before, during, and after you consume alcohol. I would recommend drinking 32 oz before you begin, an oz of water for every oz of alcoholic beverage you consume, and then 32 oz of water again after you finish.


    Making The Sacrifice

    Now if you are a competitive bodybuilder or a person looking to take their body to the next level let's face it, you're going to have to sacrifice drinking. I mean if you want to drink lightly every once and awhile on a very special occasion it won't affect your progress very much. But you can forget about doing it every week.

    Consuming alcohol dramatically decreases testosterone levels , causing them to take as much as two weeks before they return to normal! Consumption of alcohol also lowers your Growth Hormone production, and increases your estrogen production.

    RELATED ARTICLE

    No Drinking And Training! No Drinking And Training!
    Today I am going to list some reasons why you should not consume alcohol, or why you should moderate your intake. This will be especially true for bodybuilders.


    To put it short it is a bodybuilder's worst nightmare. Once I realized I wanted to become a competitive bodybuilder I began to cut back on my drinking and now I drink very seldom, if at all. In a college atmosphere however it is difficult to be accepted without it, so here are some tips to help avoid drinking.

    Tips:

    * Workout a couple of hours before the parties start that night. If you workout then your mind will be focused on your bodybuilding efforts and drinking will seem less important. I have personally found this to be very helpful.

    * Be the designated driver. If you are the DD then no one is going to give you static for not drinking. I mean without you they wouldn't even be going.

    * If you are on an on-campus party and you feel like you just have to look cool, or fit in then fine...put water in a mug or some kind of covered cup. Everyone will think you are drinking and if you want to take it further you can even act a little silly or play the part. I hardly ever employ this technique however as I have hard time acting like something I'm not.


    College Food

    When it comes to college food there is much to be desired. It usually tastes bad and it is usually not good for you. Most everything they cook is high fat or processed. However there are some things that most cafeterias carry that are good for your bodybuilding purposes.

    * Subs- Get a turkey sub with tuna, lettuce, and other low fat condiments (pickles, mustard, black olives, etc) on whole wheat bread. If you construct your sub right you can get a good 30-40g of protein, 80g of carbs, and 15g of fat out of it.

    * Chicken Breasts- Most college cafeterias have a grill of some sort. Don't get the fried chicken or the hamburger. Don't even get a bun. Get a grilled chicken breast and put barbeque sauce on it. Tastes good and will give you about 25g of protein.

    * Eggs- For breakfast most cafeterias serve eggs. I always eat a plate full of eggs every morning as eggs have the best amino acid protein of any single protein source.

    * Salad- Most colleges also have a salad bar in their cafeteria. Salad is great for you as it contains a good amount of fiber. Shy away from high fat dressings and instead opt for low fat dressings or even vinegar if you can stomach it.

    * Bran cereal- Most college cafeterias have choice of cereals. Choose unprocessed cereals such as Raisin Bran.

    * Cottage Cheese- Cottage Cheese contains Casein protein, which is the most anti-catabolic protein found in food. I eat 2 or 3 bowls of it per day.

    * Milk- Milk is a great bodybuilding tool. It is high in protein and contains a mix of 20% whey and 80% casein protein. It is also high in calcium.

    * Fruits and vegetables- Most colleges offer choices of fruits and vegetables. These are great bodybuilding foods as fruits contain valuable anti-oxidants and vegetables contain fiber and many vitamins and minerals.


    More Than Just Three Meals

    Three meals per day is not enough for a serious bodybuilder. If you want to gain quality muscle during college you will need to invest in a small refrigerator and some sort of cooking device such as a George Foreman grill.

    You may even want to buy a hot plate so you can cook eggs. I have found these things to be enormously helpful in my bodybuilding career. There are a few things that you can buy at the grocery that are fairly inexpensive bodybuilding foods. Here is a normal grocery list for me.

    Bodybuilding Grocery List*

    * 10 cans of chunk light tuna- $7.00
    * 3 gallons of milk- $9.50
    * 4 containers of cottage cheese- $9.00
    * 1 bag of chicken breast (6 pieces)- $7.00
    * 5 lbs. of beef- $9.00
    * 1 32 oz jar of peanut butter- $3.50
    * 2 boxes of raisin bran cereal- $5.00
    * 1 box of oatmeal-$2.50
    * 1 3lb. container of PowerAde- $7.00
    * 3 dozen eggs- $3.00
    * 1 generic mustard bottle- $1.00 *All prices are estimates

    Here Is A Sample Of My Daily Nutrition:

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    Meal 1 (cafeteria)
    2 eggs
    3 egg whites
    1 bowl bran cereal in milk
    1 banana
    32 oz of water
    (30g protein, 80g carbs, 12g fat)

    *

    Meal 2 (my room)
    1 can tuna mixed with mustard (tastes better)
    1-cup oatmeal
    one tbsp. of peanut butter
    16 oz of water
    (40g protein, 60g carbs, 10g fat)

    *

    Meal 3 (cafeteria)
    1 sub with:
    turkey
    tuna
    pickles
    mustard
    black olives
    16 oz water
    (30g protein, 80g carbs, 10g fat)

    *

    Meal 4 (Post workout at home)
    30g of whey protein mixed with 10 oz of milk (If you don't have whey protein then fix eggs or have milk that equals 30g of protein).
    About 95g of PowerAde mixed with 8 oz water.
    Plus another separate 32 oz of water.
    (40g protein, 90g carbs, 2g of fat)

    *

    Meal 5 (Cafeteria one hour later)
    3 bowls of bran cereal
    1/2-cup of cottage cheese
    16 oz water
    (30g protein, 150g carbs, 15g fat)

    *

    Meal 6 (At home)
    2 cups of oatmeal
    6-8oz beef
    16 oz water
    (30g protein, 100g carbs, 25g fat)

    *

    Meal 7 (At home right before bed)
    1.5 cups of cottage cheese
    3/4 cup oatmeal
    16 oz water
    (50g protein, 40g carbs, 10g fat)

    Totals- 250g protein, 600g carbs, 84g fat.

    Keep in mind that I weigh 205 lbs and thus will consume more protein, carbs, and fat than someone weighing less than myself. Adjust the totals to fit your weight.

    I did not place times on these meals as this is my schedule and someone else's may be different. If your mealtime falls during class time then take a protein shake or bar to class, most professors do not mind if you eat or drink during class as long as you are not obnoxious about it.
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    What about taking some 5-HTP?

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    I appericate the help and advice guys. It's all going to be worth it in the end. It's a shame that I live in one of the biggest whore infested areas in the US (North Jersey). I bounce three nights a week and I constantly get girls coming up and throwing themselves at me. The problem is that 90% of them use E or drink atleast 4x a week. Essentially, they're going nowhere and are gross (yet physically attractive). I think the bottom line is that being 21 and finding a decent, classy girl is virtually impossible. However, I can only hope that the tables will turn in the next few years.

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    jersey eh, talk to haz tell him to take you out haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standby View Post
    jersey eh, talk to haz tell him to take you out haha
    Thats my boy...we live 20 minutes apart...he may start bouncing with me actually....I bet he takes a minimum of 3 chicks home a night LOL

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    what college?.....Rutgers? I graduated from Rutgers

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    ******, I feel u bro. I don't think there's anything wrong with going out here and there. That whole thing IS a phase that the broads and people in general around your age will eventually outgrow, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy it at all IMO. Living the BBing lifestyle doesn't mean you have to give up everything forever. All about moderation. Are you competing? If so, are you currently training to complete? If not, enjoy yourself once in a while.

    Take it from me, i'm 35 and spent my best years being fat, and while I had/have good friends and had a perfectly fine social life, I think the 'flavor' of it would have been much different if I WERE into BBing at that time and looked the part. Point being is I wish I could be in my 20's again but have your physique. I would have enjoyed myself even more, without having to go nuts.

    No doubt on the Jersey whores thing. Where in NJ u at bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****** View Post
    I appericate the help and advice guys. It's all going to be worth it in the end. It's a shame that I live in one of the biggest whore infested areas in the US (North Jersey). I bounce three nights a week and I constantly get girls coming up and throwing themselves at me. The problem is that 90% of them use E or drink atleast 4x a week. Essentially, they're going nowhere and are gross (yet physically attractive). I think the bottom line is that being 21 and finding a decent, classy girl is virtually impossible. However, I can only hope that the tables will turn in the next few years.
    ok here is the reason you are depressed....

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    Gotta change your mindset and trust yourself. Trust you are good enough just as you are. Be CONFIDENT with your BB passion and BE YOURSELF and the right girl will come along. And you know what? She too will be relieved to have a partner who has similiar dreams in life. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE! Trick is the confidence. Confidence attracts females more than any characteristic. More than money. More than looks. More than the life of the party.

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    IMO dont let the solid chick thing bring you down.When I was in my 20's i was 6'2 245 w/ bout 13%bf and let me tell you i had a ton of fun with that body,,and didnt care about miss right... just miss tonite and miss tomorrow nite heheheh
    Seriosly 20 yrs later I have a great woman by my side with one boy and another boy due in November.I love my family and wife but you will never be able to relive those years again.Enjoy yourself and the bounty of BOOTY that surrounds you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_ron View Post
    Yeah man i know what u mean, i can relate being 21 aswell... sumtimes even pretending your a party animal helps, u can still go out and go clubbing, dancing (cardio) take a bar or a shake with you and leave it in the car or sumthing. you need a balance in your life! or you will end up depressed as you do. find that balance, there are ways around training and partying you just need to find them
    I do this same thing man, bring bars and different protein foods with me when i go out. People give me alot of shit for it but IDGAF hahahah.

    But i dont go out that often and also feel like a loser alot of times because i choose not to go out and rage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****** View Post
    I'm 21 years old and I have been training my balls off since I was 17. I have come a LONG way. Started off at 170lbs at 6'2" and now I'm close to 260lbs. All I think about is training, dieting, and gear. My social life has been just about non-existant for over two years now. I don't drink, party, or do any rec. drugs. It seems like 99% of college girls (or 21 year olds) take part in all of those things. I am constantly going on dates with chicks, out to dinner...things go well...then a few dates later they realize i'm not a party animal and I never hear from them. I feel like a fvcking hermit. Somestimes I wish I never got into this BBing lifestyle.....Sorry for the rant guys....anyone else ever been through this type of thing?
    I feel for u man, especially at your age. I don't know what your lookin for in a relationship with a girl or girls or how much of a priority it is for you but what comes to mind for me as advice is 1 of 2 options with girls:

    1. Go for the librarian type chicks, go hang out at the college library on Thur-Sat eve's and meet chicks there, they won't have the 'party scene' mentality.

    2. Go the manwhore route I took and change up your game by puttin some rules in your game like:

    - Don't date girls u are not already fvcking
    - Don't spend any money on any girls u are not already having sex with
    - Skip the mindset of getting a phone number and following up with callls, asking on dates, etc and go straight for the kill.
    U know what it says to a girl when u ask for her phone number? It says "I want to **** u, I'm just not sure how to go about it right now, so when I figure it out I'll give u a call." Fvck phone numbers. When u meet a girl u like create and instant date right there by suggesting going to have coffee with her and then after that making up some excuse to go by your pad with her- There's 2 dates in, no money spent, and possibly some action. If u get blown off who cares, play the numbers game. Some of those "party chicks" would probably be banging u if you dropped the gentleman route and took this route.

    Of course you have to create rapport with them and make them feel safe and secure with you for #2 to not blow up in your face..... but if u lay those comfort tracks right the train should be able to steam right on blowin that horn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicko View Post
    IMO dont let the solid chick thing bring you down.When I was in my 20's i was 6'2 245 w/ bout 13%bf and let me tell you i had a ton of fun with that body,,and didnt care about miss right... just miss tonite and miss tomorrow nite heheheh
    Seriosly 20 yrs later I have a great woman by my side with one boy and another boy due in November.I love my family and wife but you will never be able to relive those years again.Enjoy yourself and the bounty of BOOTY that surrounds you.
    x2 - the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    Gotta change your mindset and trust yourself. Trust you are good enough just as you are. Be CONFIDENT with your BB passion and BE YOURSELF and the right girl will come along. And you know what? She too will be relieved to have a partner who has similiar dreams in life. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE! Trick is the confidence. Confidence attracts females more than any characteristic. More than money. More than looks. More than the life of the party.
    I also strongly agree with this, I must admit I used for the one nighters thou lol Like if a woman would come up to me and ask me to buy her a drink.... I would look her straight in the eye and say "I only buy drinks for woman I'm already having sex with." Then stay silent and wait for their reaction while smiling at them confidently waiting for their response.

    I'm sure there were a few good girls in the group that would walk away that was sweet and humble and asked their friends what they should say to meet me and I unfortunately made them look like a fool, and feel a lot worse while they walked away not knowing what to do or say... but most of the walkers are trying to get in my pockets and I had rules. To me 'buying a girl a drink' is the equivalent of giving her $7.00 to talk to her for 5 minutes. So if I would not spend that same $7.00 on a MAN who was a TOTAL STRANGER to me I'm not doing it with the chick. To me it sets up ur game to be like ur tryin to buy pvssy. Confident men don't have to buy pvssy.

    There are a million different things I could have typed up to get the confidence point across from my perspective, but in my younger days I was NOT looking for a commitment.

    I met my wife 8 years ago, my first committed relationship ever, at age 35. She was in a club with like 7 other chicks, her sisters and friends and they are all Brazilian and all HOT! No dudes in the club were approaching them as they were in a big group of females but I walked right up to the whole group of them to conversate and get to know them. I paid attn to them all, laughed, joked, etc. When they asked me who I was at the club with I confidently said "I'm here by myself" I didn't get the response I typically would get from american chicks, which was a little negative where I would follow up with "What's wrong with coming out to the club by myself, I'm here to meet new people and make new friends (then I'd hold up my cranberry juice and say) and I'm drinking cranberry juice, not alcohol.. because I don't need to get liquored up like the rest of these guys in here to talk to women."
    The Brazilians didn't have anything to say to imply that I am possibly a little lame or something because I was there by myself... we just all continued having fun talking with each other.

    Of course after I laid the groundwork as the first guy in the club to approach this large group of chicks a few other guys rode on my coat tails as a means of entering the group... but I can't say I have never done the same thing so I was happy to converse with them as well as long as they were cool.

    And the rest, as they say, is history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog99 View Post
    what college?.....Rutgers? I graduated from Rutgers
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    ******, I feel u bro. I don't think there's anything wrong with going out here and there. That whole thing IS a phase that the broads and people in general around your age will eventually outgrow, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy it at all IMO. Living the BBing lifestyle doesn't mean you have to give up everything forever. All about moderation. Are you competing? If so, are you currently training to complete? If not, enjoy yourself once in a while.

    Take it from me, i'm 35 and spent my best years being fat, and while I had/have good friends and had a perfectly fine social life, I think the 'flavor' of it would have been much different if I WERE into BBing at that time and looked the part. Point being is I wish I could be in my 20's again but have your physique. I would have enjoyed myself even more, without having to go nuts.

    No doubt on the Jersey whores thing. Where in NJ u at bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie View Post
    I feel for u man, especially at your age. I don't know what your lookin for in a relationship with a girl or girls or how much of a priority it is for you but what comes to mind for me as advice is 1 of 2 options with girls:

    1. Go for the librarian type chicks, go hang out at the college library on Thur-Sat eve's and meet chicks there, they won't have the 'party scene' mentality.

    2. Go the manwhore route I took and change up your game by puttin some rules in your game like:

    - Don't date girls u are not already fvcking
    - Don't spend any money on any girls u are not already having sex with
    - Skip the mindset of getting a phone number and following up with callls, asking on dates, etc and go straight for the kill.
    U know what it says to a girl when u ask for her phone number? It says "I want to **** u, I'm just not sure how to go about it right now, so when I figure it out I'll give u a call." Fvck phone numbers. When u meet a girl u like create and instant date right there by suggesting going to have coffee with her and then after that making up some excuse to go by your pad with her- There's 2 dates in, no money spent, and possibly some action. If u get blown off who cares, play the numbers game. Some of those "party chicks" would probably be banging u if you dropped the gentleman route and took this route.

    Of course you have to create rapport with them and make them feel safe and secure with you for #2 to not blow up in your face..... but if u lay those comfort tracks right the train should be able to steam right on blowin that horn.
    I appericate your advice. The library is a solid idea. Meet intelligent, intellectual, witty chicks...I bet theyre probably the frreaks in bed! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    Gotta change your mindset and trust yourself. Trust you are good enough just as you are. Be CONFIDENT with your BB passion and BE YOURSELF and the right girl will come along. And you know what? She too will be relieved to have a partner who has similiar dreams in life. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE! Trick is the confidence. Confidence attracts females more than any characteristic. More than money. More than looks. More than the life of the party.
    I agree with you to some extent. However, In Jersey (especially North) every woman is so money driven and hungry that its disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****** View Post
    I agree with you to some extent. However, In Jersey (especially North) every woman is so money driven and hungry that its disgusting.
    ha did you catch southpark last nite?

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    someone already kinda made the right point. I am in college and don't drink or do anything "fun" by college standards. But I always meet cool interesting girls, everyday. Here is why you are finding shitty girls: you are trying to find them in shitty places. My friends that are girls always complain about this shit, "I went to a dive bar on a wednesday and all I met were douche bags." Yeah cuz you're at a bar on a wednesday. People with real lives and real interests do real things. Try finding people or groups that do things like camping, rock climbing, boxing, kayaking etc. This is where you are gonna find the girls who appreciate you. For anybody educated not looking to just bang and bounce, college parties/dorms/bars are not good places to find quality anything. You're looking under rocks for gold and complaining that all you find is dirt.

    "If I were a smart, athletic, outgoing girl, where would I be..." - play that game in your area. They are out there, and they all have friends.

    here is another thing, if your life is like you posted above, you are not an interesting person to anyone that isn't on this board. Start investing in yourself. By invest I mean do things that make you a better/more rounded/different person. Any experience that you have that others don't makes you better than them. You need to be interesting in order to find interesting people, and keep them interested. Every PUA knows that you need to occupy a girls mind, and once you do, you've got them hooked. So try to do things that better you, even if you don't want to or don't think it will help. If you went to africa and built homeless shelters (IMO) that would suck ass. But you are now way more interesting than any other guy at the (choose your spot).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    someone already kinda made the right point. I am in college and don't drink or do anything "fun" by college standards. But I always meet cool interesting girls, everyday. Here is why you are finding shitty girls: you are trying to find them in shitty places. My friends that are girls always complain about this shit, "I went to a dive bar on a wednesday and all I met were douche bags." Yeah cuz you're at a bar on a wednesday. People with real lives and real interests do real things. Try finding people or groups that do things like camping, rock climbing, boxing, kayaking etc. This is where you are gonna find the girls who appreciate you. For anybody educated not looking to just bang and bounce, college parties/dorms/bars are not good places to find quality anything. You're looking under rocks for gold and complaining that all you find is dirt.

    "If I were a smart, athletic, outgoing girl, where would I be..." - play that game in your area. They are out there, and they all have friends.

    here is another thing, if your life is like you posted above, you are not an interesting person to anyone that isn't on this board. Start investing in yourself. By invest I mean do things that make you a better/more rounded/different person. Any experience that you have that others don't makes you better than them. You need to be interesting in order to find interesting people, and keep them interested. Every PUA knows that you need to occupy a girls mind, and once you do, you've got them hooked. So try to do things that better you, even if you don't want to or don't think it will help. If you went to africa and built homeless shelters (IMO) that would suck ass. But you are now way more interesting than any other guy at the (choose your spot).
    very true.

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    Other than fitness and medical information, women are my hobby. Don't **** them, just get to the point where I can then bounce. I love my girl and she is quality shit. Kind of girl nobody else can get, and nobody else has. Its fun that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist;5391***
    Other than fitness and medical information, women are my hobby. Don't **** them, just get to the point where I can then bounce. I love my girl and she is quality shit. Kind of girl nobody else can get, and nobody else has. Its fun that way.
    Too late. Me and Haz had first dibs. I thought you knew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    bro let me just tell you, you have a lot to look forward to and the dedication that you are putting fourth in yrou life rite now will pay of ten fold. There is plenty of girls out there that are not into that type of thing and the majority of them as soon as they hit 24+ they become so ****en insecure about being fat and alone their whole life that a lot of of them grow up out of that phase. You are sooooooo young man. Just keeping making good choices sounds like you have a really good head on your shoulders. congrats on your progress.
    Thats exactly why I'm not a bodybuilder.

    Enjoy life, you never know when you last breath is.

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    I'm sorry but you don't no the meaning of depression,

    your 21yrs old for god sake live your life and enjoy yourself, you've got your whole life in front of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I'm sorry but you don't no the meaning of depression,

    your 21yrs old for god sake live your life and enjoy yourself, you've got your whole life in front of you
    I'd strongly disagree with that marcus, Im young and you know that i know the meaning of it. There is no age limit on when you can be depressed.

    To the OP. Life is a journey not a race, the things you want will come in time

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    I believe what Marcus was trying to say that what this guy is attributing to depression, sounds more like a lack of going out. Depression can affect anyone, but usually it's through having other deeper rooted problems, and people have more valied reasons to be depressed more than "i cant have sex with girls because they are all drunk skanks". Not every girl out there goes out and have drunk meaningless sex.

    That being said, if the OP is depressed then he needs to recognise exactly what the problem is and get rid of it. Compromise if you have to, because depression if left ignored just festers and gets worse for the person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Thats exactly why I'm not a bodybuilder.

    Enjoy life, you never know when you last breath is.
    Ditto. You only live once. I use to be 100% on diet and routines until someone close to me passed away. I would give everything i have for just a few more mins with that person. Looking back my gym time and such did run into our personal time, never again.

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