31 U.S. and 7 Afghan Soldiers killed in Afghanistan

[lovbyts]

I meant why do you say we only lost a few not 21? Where are you getting your information?

[FRANK WHITE]

Lb. I can't say that I just hate when the gov does stuff like that.

[FRANK WHITE]

Team six is supposed to be super secretive. After killing Bin Laden they all of a sudden were in the spotlight everywhere. What better way to take the spotlight off them and give the Taliban a seemingly payback victory than to allegedly have a large number killed by the Taliban. It's a win win scenerio. Six can go back to anonimity and off the Talibans #1 enemies list. The Taliban save face. By saying none were on the mission that killed Bin Laden it makes it a little easier for the American public to swallow. Believe me or not. Whatever you choose. Although I can't say why I believe this I will say its based on A1 Intel. Don't ask me where either please. I'm leaving this thread. Just something to ponder.

[lovbyts]

If that's the case then great news and I understand the logic. If it was me who had this information though as tempting as it may be I would not bother to post it anywhere and be satisfied knowing what I know. There is no reason for the government to tell us everything or be transparent when it comes to war secrets. Personally there is a lot of things I would rather never know and there is to much made public now days that the general public just can not wrap their heads around because they have either never been involved in war, conflict and thinks everything in life is just fun and games and everyone plays fare.

[FRANK WHITE]

Nicely said Lb

[wmaousley]

This is an older thread but an important one. Believe me or not. I don't care. SEAL team six did not lose 21 members that night. There where a couple SEAL members but the rest were Afghan commandos. God bless America

This has to be the in the "stupid post thread" guys. First of all no one said T6 lost 21 members, but do not try to take that away from the fact that 31 Americans died.

The following sailors assigned to an East Coast-based Naval Special Warfare unit were killed:

Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J. Langlais, 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.,
Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A. Ratzlaff, 34, of Green Forest, Ark.,
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Senior Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Kraig M. Vickers 36, of Kokomo, Hawaii,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Brian R. Bill, 31, of Stamford, Conn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) John W. Faas, 31, of Minneapolis, Minn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Kevin A. Houston, 35, of West Hyannisport, Mass.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Matthew D. Mason, 37, of Kansas City, Mo.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Stephen M. Mills, 35, of Fort Worth, Texas,
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist/Diver) Nicholas H. Null, 30, of Washington, W.Va.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Robert J. Reeves, 32, of Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Heath M. Robinson, 34, of Detroit, Mich.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Darrik C. Benson, 28, of Angwin, Calif.
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Parachutist) Christopher G. Campbell, 36, of Jacksonville, N.C.,
Information Systems Technician Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Jared W. Day, 28, of Taylorsville, Utah,
Master-at-Arms Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist) John Douangdara, 26, of South Sioux City, Neb.,
Cryptologist Technician (Collection) Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist) Michael J. Strange, 25, of Philadelphia, Pa.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist) Jon T. Tumilson, 35, of Rockford, Iowa,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Aaron C. Vaughn, 30, of Stuart, Fla., and
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jason R. Workman, 32, of Blanding, Utah.
The following sailors assigned to a West Coast-based Naval Special Warfare unit were killed:
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jesse D. Pittman, 27, of Ukiah, Calif., and
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 2nd Class (SEAL) Nicholas P. Spehar, 24, ofSaint Paul, Minn.

The soldiers killed were:

Chief Warrant Officer David R. Carter, 47, of Centennial, Colo. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), Aurora, Colo.;
Chief Warrant Officer Bryan J. Nichols, 31, of Hays, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.;
Sgt. Patrick D. Hamburger, 30, of Lincoln, Neb. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), Grand Island, Neb.;
Sgt. Alexander J. Bennett, 24, of Tacoma, Wash. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.; and
Spc. Spencer C. Duncan, 21, of Olathe, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.
The airmen killed were:
Tech. Sgt. John W. Brown, 33, of Tallahassee, Fla.;
Staff Sgt. Andrew W. Harvell, 26, of Long Beach, Calif.; and
Tech. Sgt. Daniel L. Zerbe, 28, of York, Pa.
All three airmen were assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Pope Field, N.C.

For more information about the sailors, you may contact Lt. Arlo Abrahamson at 757-763-2007 or 757-620-3109.
Colorado National Guard public affairs office at 720-250-1053.
11th Aviation Command public affairs office at 502-626-5746 or 502-851-3466.
Nebraska National Guard public affairs office at 402-309-7302 or 402-309-7303.
Air Force Special Operations Command public affairs office at 850-884-5515.

Date Country Name Rank Age Cause Province Place of Death Branch State/Region City Unit Stationed

8-06-2011 US Vaughn, Aaron Carson Not reported yet 30 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Strange, Michael Petty Officer 25 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Pennsylvania Not reported yet Seal Team 6 Virginia Beach, VA

8-06-2011 US Brown, John W. Medic 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Arkansas Not reported yet Seal Team 6 Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Mills, Matthew Not reported yet 36 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Texas Not reported yet Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Houston, Kevin Not reported yet 36 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Ratzlaff, Tommy Not reported yet 34 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Arkansas Green Forest Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Reeves, Robert James Chief Petty Officer 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Louisiana Shreveport Seal Team 6 Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Kelsall, Jonas Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Louisiana Shreveport Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Bill, Brian Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Connecticut Stamford Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Workman, Jason Not reported yet 32 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Utah Blanding Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Tumilson, Jon T Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Iowa Rockford Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Spehar, Nicholas Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Minnesota Duluth Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Nichols, Bryan Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Mason, Matthew Not reported yet 37 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Kearney Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Langlais, Lou Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Campbell, Christopher Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Douangdara, Johnny Not reported yet 26 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Nebraska Not reported yet Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Benson, Darrik Not reported yet 29 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy California Angwin Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Robinson, Heath Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Michigan Petoskey Navy Seal Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Pittman, Jesse Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy California Willits Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Not reported yet Not reported yet Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Vickers, Kraig Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U. S. Navy Hawaii Maui Navy Seals Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Hamburger, Patrick Not reported yet 30 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U.S. Army National Guard Nebraska Grand Island Not reported yet Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Duncan, Spencer C. Specialist 21 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U.S. Army Kansas Not reported yet Not reported yet Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Zerbe, Daniel Airman 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district Not Reported Yet Pennsylvania Not reported yet Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Bennett, Alexander Specialist 23 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U.S. Army Washington Tacoma Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US Carter, David R. Chief Warrant Officer 47 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district U.S. Army National Guard Colorado Aurora Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district Not Reported Yet Not reported yet Not reported yet Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district Not Reported Yet Not reported yet Not reported yet Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

8-06-2011 US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Not reported yet 0 Hostile – hostile fire – helicopter crash Wardak Sayd Abad district Not Reported Yet Not reported yet Not reported yet Special Operation Forces Not reported yet

[wmaousley]

Lb. I can't say that I just hate when the gov does stuff like that.

looooooooooooooooool another "stupid post for the stupid post thread", Again Mr. Top Secret, no one said 21 members of ST6 died.

[FRANK WHITE]

I kinda like that name. "Mr. Top Secret" Kinda has a nice ring to it. You know I could go down to a certain level and ask how things are going at Dyncorp? Glad to see your copy and paste buttons are working. And glad you found the official government page on the 6 November incident. But I'm not. It's because of all the soldiers and sailors and Marines and airman have died that stupid people like me and experts like you can both voice our opinions. I guess I owe you a thanks. I don't have to delete my comments because of yours. If you our or did serve our country. Thank you. And like I said, believe what I said or not. It's your choice. But if anyone believes the government doesn't cover up and do things the public never knows has obviously never been in combat.

[FRANK WHITE]

I'm sorry 6 August. Typing while driving on phone

[lovbyts]

I'm sorry 6 August. Typing while driving on phone

Get the app where it's voice to text. It works really good 99% of the time. I use it all the time on my droid. It's much better than trying to type and having auto correct put in a different word.

[wmaousley]

I kinda like that name. "Mr. Top Secret" Kinda has a nice ring to it. You know I could go down to a certain level and ask how things are going at Dyncorp? Glad to see your copy and paste buttons are working. And glad you found the official government page on the 6 November incident. But I'm not. It's because of all the soldiers and sailors and Marines and airman have died that stupid people like me and experts like you can both voice our opinions. I guess I owe you a thanks. I don't have to delete my comments because of yours. If you our or did serve our country. Thank you. And like I said, believe what I said or not. It's your choice. But if anyone believes the government doesn't cover up and do things the public never knows has obviously never been in combat.

Why are we talking about Dynacorp? Actually my copy & paste post didnt come from a US Government site. It was from an independent verification site that I am a vetted member of. We also vette people who make outlandish claims regarding their positions with the US government. Its amazing how many posers really exist.

[FRANK WHITE]

Yes it is amazing isn't it. I really don't give a shit where or what your vetted to. Posing what? Have I said anything about working for the gov or military. I will say be careful what u say! For the sake of peace and the fact that maybe you are a veteran I'm gonna shut this down on this note. All the U.S and allied troops who have died or sacrificed for their countries in the name of freedom are heroes.You believe what you stated. That's fine. Maybe your right. And I will believe what I wish. Freedom gives me that right also. Good luck wmaousley. And LB. Thanks. I'll give it a try.