Why we have low Testosterone.

[Flier]

If this is true, Americans should have an average lower Testosterone than the rest of the world population, as the king of mass food production, growth hormones, preservatives etc. is the US. (Not pesticides, other countries are worse)
Wonder if there is a geographical "chart" of Testosterone levels .

By Edward Lichten, M.D.,PC:
"The normal range of testosterone is reported as 350- 1200ng/dl. Studies in the 1940's showed the average testosterone level to be at 700 ng/dl, 300 ng/dl higher than for men today. In the past, a drop in testosterone levels to 250 ng/dl was rarely reported before men were 80 years of age. Yet today, it is not an uncommon value for middle aged men!

Testosterone levels are highest in the early twenties. The decrease in serum levels is now occurring at an even earlier age. Up to 50% of all men at 40 now have testosterone levels below what was considered the normal range of 450 ng/dl. Recent studies imply that the pesticides and preservatives in foods and the hormone pellets to fatten up cattle, pork and chicken act as "hormonal disruptors." Based on the low sperm counts, infertility, obesity and low serum testosteroneI see in younger men, I fear this is true."

[jasc]

Interesting excerpt..

Maybe that's why most men are becoming bigger pvssys these days..

[evander87]

DO you have a link to the full article?

[Flier]

DO you have a link to the full article?

Yes, can I post links? As long as it´s not another message board, right?
Guess I gotta go read the rules again...lol

[Flier]

Ok, I´m good...(and up to date on the rules)

http://www.usdoctor.com/testone.htm

[evander87]

Ok, I´m good...(and up to date on the rules)

http://www.usdoctor.com/testone.htm

Thank you

[Shol'va]

Add to all that the fact that the US and Russia in the 50's and 60's did all kinds of both underground and above ground nuclear bomb testing which all went up into the atmosphere going into the jet stream falling back down to earth all over the country mixed with rain and snow landing in the fields where all the livestock grazed. The farmers milked their dairy cows and sent the milk and food to market.(Actually back in those days milk was delivered straight from the producer diretly to the doorstep of the customers, not giving the radiation any time to decompose.) People bought them and ate and drank them including the milk which the cows had grazed on loaded in the grass with nuclear fallout. So now it gets into the bodies of the citizens messing up their dna. They have kids and the kids thyroid glands are failing expecially in the midwest where the jet stream is most prevalent. So everyone is contaminated with radioactive particles and now growth hormones and antibiotics which are fed to the chickens and livestock in over abundance and we eat the meat. Sicentists are concerned about us being immune to antibiotics due to this. Imagine what's in store for all those Japanese who have been exposed to radiation from that last sunami. It's already done and nothing we can do about it except try to take care of our bodies as best we can givin what we now know. IMO

[Honkey_Kong]

Add to all that the fact that the US and Russia in the 50's and 60's did all kinds of both underground and above ground nuclear bomb testing which all went up into the atmosphere going into the jet stream falling back down to earth all over the country mixed with rain and snow landing in the fields where all the livestock grazed. The farmers milked their dairy cows and sent the milk and food to market.(Actually back in those days milk was delivered straight from the producer diretly to the doorstep of the customers, not giving the radiation any time to decompose.) People bought them and ate and drank them including the milk which the cows had grazed on loaded in the grass with nuclear fallout. So now it gets into the bodies of the citizens messing up their dna. They have kids and the kids thyroid glands are failing expecially in the midwest where the jet stream is most prevalent. So everyone is contaminated with radioactive particles and now growth hormones and antibiotics which are fed to the chickens and livestock in over abundance and we eat the meat. Sicentists are concerned about us being immune to antibiotics due to this. Imagine what's in store for all those Japanese who have been exposed to radiation from that last sunami. It's already done and nothing we can do about it except try to take care of our bodies as best we can givin what we now know. IMO

Shol'va, you know there were also nuclear reactor meltdowns in the 1950's-70's that the government covered up too?

http://www.healthycal.org/archives/7881
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...118110549.html

Makes you wonder how many other nuclear reactor meltdowns were kept from the public.

[SEOINAGE]

I believe this. it is unfortunate really. best thing you can do is move to the middle of no where and raise your own food and crops in some other country. Lots of fat on the lower abdomen and twig thin muscles is common amongst boys and men everywhere these days. I am on TRT because my test levels have declined so dramatically since my mid and more especially early 20s.

[Flier]

Good stuff Sholva.
Seoinage, there are countries that has lot more natural livestock, birds and grain production. The US is extreme in it´s hormone and antibiotics use. Supplying all the overeating. Americans also probably eat more meat and birds instead of fish compared to other countries.

Bet Eskimos don´t have low Test.

[thegodfather]

Well, we know that exercise results in increased testosterone levels , and we certainly live much more sedentary lifestyles than in the 1940s (moving from a production/industrial economy to a service/information based economy), so this could be one of many factors that are causing this.