the obesity problem..

[RaginCajun]

I used to be fat fvck my whole life growing up. I always blamed my "fat" family for giving me shitty genetics. When I actually started to diet and work out, I was amazed at how fast I saw change.

First picture is me when I was 16, 260lbs with a 44" waist, sitting around 30%bf.
Second and third pictures is me when I was 20, 220lbs, with a 31" waist, sitting around 10%bf.

(right now I'm around 250lbs at 15% bf and feel like a fat fvck again, just started cutting yesterday..)

damn bronzer, great transformation! i wish i would have found this site sooner, makes all the difference in the world

[Gaspari1255]

^Thanks for the compliment. It's been a long journey. I really wanna get to around 7-8%bf this summer without going below 230lbs, we'll see.

[SexySweetheart]

I hate when people say "obesity runs in my family" no - the problem is that NO ONE runs in your fvckin' family!

THIS!
sooo funny!

[JP-MAN]

i see the fattest people ever at walmart.

why is everyone so fat and dirty who goes there....

[Gaspari1255]

i see the fattest people ever at walmart.

why is everyone so fat and dirty who goes there....

Seems like its the head quarters for every white trash, grade A scum bag, welfare recipient.

[SexySweetheart]

I always point out the amount of obese people to my wife when we go out, my insurance premiums keep going up because of their fat asses. America is getting fatter and fatter by the freaken year. I'm so sick of hearing I can't exercise because I'm sick, bull crap your sick because your so damn fat. PUT THE TWINKIE AND CAN OF SODA DOWN!!!!!!

Rite? and I still don’t get how food stamps are not regulated like the WIC program..?
here we are paying for people to eat, fine good I get it BUT with the WIC program for families with kid you get a voucher and on the voucher you can only get certain healthy foods milk eggs non sugared cereals etc...
but food stamps you can pump your family with Oreos and soda till your kids teeth rot out (oh than we get to pay for your dental work too) and you have diabetes (yay now we can pay for you insulin ) no your kids are fat have no actual eating habits, just junk filler grazing habits they are malnourished and perpetuating the cycle ~ awesome lol

oh and McDonalds and other fast food places are trying to petition the government to make their food eligible for food stamps CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!
I can see it now… *A commercial jingle plays as a voice says on the radio ♫ ♪ ♩ ♬♪ ~ the all new food stamp menu at your local drive threw, for the family with the most time to plan and cooks healthy meals but just don’t feel like it ♪ ♩ ♬♪

[RaginCajun]

Rite? and I still don’t get how food stamps are not regulated like the WIC program..?
here we are paying for people to eat, fine good I get it BUT with the WIC program for families with kid you get a voucher and on the voucher you can only get certain healthy foods milk eggs non sugared cereals etc...
but food stamps you can pump your family with Oreos and soda till your kids teeth rot out (oh than we get to pay for your dental work too) and you have diabetes (yay now we can pay for you insulin ) no your kids are fat have no actual eating habits, just junk filler grazing habits they are malnourished and perpetuating the cycle ~ awesome lol

oh and McDonalds and other fast food places are trying to petition the government to make their food eligible for food stamps CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!
I can see it now… *A commercial jingle plays as a voice says on the radio ♫ ♪ ♩ ♬♪ ~ the all new food stamp menu at your local drive threw, for the family with the most time to plan and cooks healthy meals but just don’t feel like it ♪ ♩ ♬♪

i have always said this. our gov't now wants to tell everyone how to eat nowadays but will still give free food stamps and money to people. i understand the people who really need the assistance like single mothers and fathers, but the people who stay stuck on the gov't tit too long is a problem i have. i haven't heard of michelle obama saying anything about them revamping the food stamp program for the healthier. great point sexy4my

[Honkey_Kong]

Rite? and I still don’t get how food stamps are not regulated like the WIC program..?
here we are paying for people to eat, fine good I get it BUT with the WIC program for families with kid you get a voucher and on the voucher you can only get certain healthy foods milk eggs non sugared cereals etc...
but food stamps you can pump your family with Oreos and soda till your kids teeth rot out (oh than we get to pay for your dental work too) and you have diabetes (yay now we can pay for you insulin ) no your kids are fat have no actual eating habits, just junk filler grazing habits they are malnourished and perpetuating the cycle ~ awesome lol

oh and McDonalds and other fast food places are trying to petition the government to make their food eligible for food stamps CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!
I can see it now… *A commercial jingle plays as a voice says on the radio ♫ ♪ ♩ ♬♪ ~ the all new food stamp menu at your local drive threw, for the family with the most time to plan and cooks healthy meals but just don’t feel like it ♪ ♩ ♬♪

I believe it. That is just one more reason we should eliminate food stamps. The government though isn't known for providing healthy food anyways. You ever remember the hot lunch program at your school? When I went to high school, it was the first time I was in a public school. My first impression was how disgusting their hot lunches were. Back then, I wasn't as conscious about health as now, but I remember that shit was just grease.

[JP-MAN]

i buy my employees food stamps for .50 cents on the dollar.
i buy 300 bucks worth a week for 150.... works great...

gotta love the govenment

[Honkey_Kong]

i buy my employees food stamps for .50 cents on the dollar.
i buy 300 bucks worth a week for 150.... works great...

gotta love the govenment

Don't they put them on those EBT cards?

[phoenix44]

i buy my employees food stamps for .50 cents on the dollar.
i buy 300 bucks worth a week for 150.... works great...

gotta love the govenment

I'm a landlord and my tenants all sell there food stamps it's unbelievable. I won't buy them out of principle but I've been tempted

[paulzane]

At my docs office he has a chart that shows if you are 50 and older and weigh in at 200 or above you are considered morbidly obese. But this is the typical American male. That's scary.

That is me except I am not a Yank!

[SexySweetheart]

Don't they put them on those EBT cards?

yes...but people just got to the store with them/buy the food and give 1/2 cash value to the card holder..or they sell the EBT card/pin and than request new card for next month or have an ongoing "arrangement" with someone.. its messed up

[Honkey_Kong]

yes...but people just got to the store with them/buy the food and give 1/2 cash value to the card holder..or they sell the EBT card/pin and than request new card for next month or have an ongoing "arrangement" with someone.. its messed up

I'm glad my tax dollars are being put to good use.

[JP-MAN]

yes they are on ebt cards.

its the biggest scam out there.
yes i know its wrong, but im done, the fvking non tax paying shit in this country get everything..

so i buy 300 a week in grocery and pay 150.....thanks obama...

[Gaspari1255]

Don't they put them on those EBT cards?

I don't like EBT cards. If you are an unproductive piece of shit, spending my money, and that tax payers money, then you should be forced to rip the stamps out of your book so everyone can see and humiliate you.

[V-ROID]

I don't like EBT cards. If you are an unproductive piece of shit, spending my money, and that tax payers money, then you should be forced to rip the stamps out of your book so everyone can see and humiliate you.

YES! And all of the self induced handicapped by obesity losers must be burned at the stake! I can't remember the last time I saw a "real" handicapped person parking. 99% fat POS's!

[Honkey_Kong]

I don't like EBT cards. If you are an unproductive piece of shit, spending my money, and that tax payers money, then you should be forced to rip the stamps out of your book so everyone can see and humiliate you.

Fvck that, I don't want to humiliate them. I don't want them to have any of my money (welfare or food stamps). Their shit kids can starve for all I care.

[kif]

New article released today!!!


http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_n...ace-of-obesity

[SexySweetheart]

New article released today!!!


http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_n...ace-of-obesity

..always though the BMI and food period was bullsh!t made up by "educated" people that think they know oh so much, but in the actual world know too little... doesn’t take an education to realize what makes common since or not..

[Nooomoto]

Couple things:

1: I think the measure by which modern people are considered obese, morbidly obese, or super morbidly obese is WAY off. On paper I'm sure I'm considered morbidly obese, however I hold a starting position on the premier rugby club in Florida, I've also started against several international level teams and been on the winning side. I may not be the fastest guy but at the end of 80 minutes I'm still running and can out-lift most adult males. According to BMI, I should be on the brink of death.

2: I used to be 300 lbs of pure fat about 10 years ago, then I got tired of it and spent a year working out twice a day and dieting. It was harder for me than most other people because I had been sedentary for several years and in a deep depression. I didn't whine to anyone, or ask for anyone's help. I just did it. I honestly don't care if someone wants to be a fat slob, awesome, I know how it feels...food is great. However, if you choose to be a fat slob, I don't think you should get to whine and cry about how fat you are..just be fat and quiet.

3: Unless we get into heavily socialized medicine here, I don't think it's anyone's ****ing business how fat someone is or how their kids eat. In the age of information people have become increasingly bored with their own lives and increasingly interested in the lives of others. What food I put in my mouth is not of your concern, and what food you put in your mouth is no concern of mine. Why do junkies get special places to hit the needle in safety (with FREE NEEDLES), but fat people get ostracized from society and get their own laws dictating the kind of food they can buy? **** that.

[JD250]

It iS my business what other people do to themselves when its an epidemic like obesity and at the end of the day I have to pay for it because you wanted to eat cheeseburgers for breakfast....fvck that. I don't like the Govt telling us what to do but I sure as hell don't like paying for other peoples fvck ups either, I put this in the same class as welfare and entitlements........if you wanna screw up your own life fine but don't make me suffer or pay for it, deal with the consequences out of your own wallet.

[Nooomoto]

It iS my business what other people do to themselves when its an epidemic like obesity and at the end of the day I have to pay for it because you wanted to eat cheeseburgers for breakfast....fvck that. I don't like the Govt telling us what to do but I sure as hell don't like paying for other peoples fvck ups either, I put this in the same class as welfare and entitlements........if you wanna screw up your own life fine but don't make me suffer or pay for it, deal with the consequences out of your own wallet.

Thats my point...it's your business because your tax dollars get wasted on it. Why? Why are tax dollars used to fix people's personal problems? There should be 0 public money spent on "fixing" the fat problem. I don't believe it is anyone's business, I also don't believe we should spend any amount of money on helping people lose weight. People are going to do what they are going to do, you can't legislate common sense. Why can't we just go back to the day when we guilted people out of being fat? Oh we can't do that because people will get offended by the glorification of skinny models, people will also get offended that the models aren't offended by being glorified and objectified.

I don't agree with Bill Maher on a lot of things, but I do agree on a point he made a couple weeks back. I don't remember exactly what he said but he brought up the point that more people are offended for the targets of offensive material than the targets themselves are offended. In other words, people get offended for other people, even though the offensive material has nothing at all to do with them. This brings me back to the point of minding your own business.

Have any of you ever tried to get someone who isn't interested to work out? It's a losing proposition. Have you ever tried to get a party girl you were dating to not be a crazy whore? Again...losing proposition. Same principle applies to fat people. You can't make them not be fat, it has to come from within themselves. Change is not an external force.

[JP-MAN]

^^^
when u were 300, did u hang out at walmart alot....

great job with the loss man....

[fukngruvn]

well, the US could always introduce a fat 'tax' like Japan...

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/1...s-fat-tax.html

[evander87]

Thats my point...it's your business because your tax dollars get wasted on it. Why? Why are tax dollars used to fix people's personal problems? There should be 0 public money spent on "fixing" the fat problem. I don't believe it is anyone's business, I also don't believe we should spend any amount of money on helping people lose weight. People are going to do what they are going to do, you can't legislate common sense. Why can't we just go back to the day when we guilted people out of being fat? Oh we can't do that because people will get offended by the glorification of skinny models, people will also get offended that the models aren't offended by being glorified and objectified.

I don't agree with Bill Maher on a lot of things, but I do agree on a point he made a couple weeks back. I don't remember exactly what he said but he brought up the point that more people are offended for the targets of offensive material than the targets themselves are offended. In other words, people get offended for other people, even though the offensive material has nothing at all to do with them. This brings me back to the point of minding your own business.

Have any of you ever tried to get someone who isn't interested to work out? It's a losing proposition. Have you ever tried to get a party girl you were dating to not be a crazy whore? Again...losing proposition. Same principle applies to fat people. You can't make them not be fat, it has to come from within themselves. Change is not an external force.

While I agree with the latter part of your post. I disagree with the first part. It's not just tax but health insurance premiums. The largest tax on the US healthcare system is directly related to obesity. If you don't carry insurance and have a heart attack the hospital must still care for you. Passing the cost onto others who have insurance. AKA me.

IMHO smokers have higher insurance premiums, so should fatties. (BTW I was a former fattie) I feel so other measure of body fat needs to be used. BMI said I was obese when I played college football and my BF was measured at 8%.

I'm all for a "fat tax". Figure out how to tax high calorie, high processed foods and tax accordantly. I don't care what you shove into your gullet but it should cost more if its sh!t for you. $.99 for a fat filled burrito verses $4.99 for a leafy salad is wrong. I can see how a family on limited budget, and lazy not wanting to cook at home, would feed that sh!t to their kids. Make the healthy choice a more economical one, and you'll see a decrease in childhood obesity.

[Gaspari1255]

My issue with obese people is that they are SELFISH. For example, my grandmother is somewhere around 500lbs. She's about one month way from being completely immobile. Through out the past 15 years, my father, my cousins, and myself have asked her NUMEROUS times to start watching what she eats and exercise, before it's too late. Her response was "All I have left in my life is food." Oh really...what about your fvcking husband, son, and grand kids? She's literally eating herself to death. She has gotten so big to the point where we cannot take care of her. So now, we're going to have to hire a traveling nurse or someone to stay with her at all times (if possible). There is a good chance that she's going to have to go in a nursing home and everything my grandfather ever worked for will be given to the government to support her all because she couldn't stop eating.

....Selfishness at it's finest

[phoenix44]

My issue with obese people is that they are SELFISH. For example, my grandmother is somewhere around 500lbs. She's about one month way from being completely immobile. Through out the past 15 years, my father, my cousins, and myself have asked her NUMEROUS times to start watching what she eats and exercise, before it's too late. Her response was "All I have left in my life is food." Oh really...what about your fvcking husband, son, and grand kids? She's literally eating herself to death. She has gotten so big to the point where we cannot take care of her. So now, we're going to have to hire a traveling nurse or someone to stay with her at all times (if possible). There is a good chance that she's going to have to go in a nursing home and everything my grandfather ever worked for will be given to the government to support her all because she couldn't stop eating.

....Selfishness at it's finest

Amen brother. Well said

[Nooomoto]

While I agree with the latter part of your post. I disagree with the first part. It's not just tax but health insurance premiums. The largest tax on the US healthcare system is directly related to obesity. If you don't carry insurance and have a heart attack the hospital must still care for you. Passing the cost onto others who have insurance. AKA me.

IMHO smokers have higher insurance premiums, so should fatties. (BTW I was a former fattie) I feel so other measure of body fat needs to be used. BMI said I was obese when I played college football and my BF was measured at 8%.

I'm all for a "fat tax". Figure out how to tax high calorie, high processed foods and tax accordantly. I don't care what you shove into your gullet but it should cost more if its sh!t for you. $.99 for a fat filled burrito verses $4.99 for a leafy salad is wrong. I can see how a family on limited budget, and lazy not wanting to cook at home, would feed that sh!t to their kids. Make the healthy choice a more economical one, and you'll see a decrease in childhood obesity.

I do agree "healthy" food costs way too much, I don't agree with more taxes. The reason "organic" food costs so much is because it's a buzz word and easy to make money off of at the moment. It ties into the whole green movement being shoved down our throats. Go to the organic section at your local supermarket, it's hilarious, and people buy it, thats why it costs so much. Why does a 4 pack of organic grass-fed free-range apples cost $6.00? So if you're taxing junk food, and "organic" healthy food is expensive, where does that leave us? You're getting raped on both ends with no way out.

This is not a problem that government intervention can solve. I still say we should go back to shaming people out of being fat like in the 80's and 90's through commercials, TV and Hollywood. Taxing un-healthy food isn't going to make that $4.99 salad any more affordable or appealing, it's also not going to solve anything and the money will just be wasted else-where.

^^^
when u were 300, did u hang out at walmart alot....

great job with the loss man....

Haha no...I live in Miami and the nearest Walmart to me is at least 20 minutes from my house. I can't stand Walmart and the people in it. The only time I go there is to buy shooting supplies.

[Nooomoto]

My issue with obese people is that they are SELFISH. For example, my grandmother is somewhere around 500lbs. She's about one month way from being completely immobile. Through out the past 15 years, my father, my cousins, and myself have asked her NUMEROUS times to start watching what she eats and exercise, before it's too late. Her response was "All I have left in my life is food." Oh really...what about your fvcking husband, son, and grand kids? She's literally eating herself to death. She has gotten so big to the point where we cannot take care of her. So now, we're going to have to hire a traveling nurse or someone to stay with her at all times (if possible). There is a good chance that she's going to have to go in a nursing home and everything my grandfather ever worked for will be given to the government to support her all because she couldn't stop eating.

....Selfishness at it's finest

I saw this exact same thing with my ex's grandmother. She'd sit in her chair all day and yell for people to bring her food. She couldn't even walk because she was so fat it destroyed her knees. This is going to sound harsh, but **** people like that. They should be left to fend for themselves. At what point do we say enough is enough and stop trying to save everyone from themselves?

I understand the obesity issue causes insurance premiums to rise and we end up footing the bill, but thats because we as a society have for some reason taken it upon ourselves to get into everyone elses business and need to save everyone. I'm unique in most conversations about things like this because I'm of the opinion that these people should be on their own and should be a burden to no one.

Sorry, I don't really give a shit if the lady in the hood has 16 kids that she can't feed...it's her problem not mine. I also don't give a shit about the morbidly obese people who will die if we don't save them. Again, their problem, not mine. Public money is for the benefit of the public, not so we can save every asshole that couldn't hack it in life.

[Gaspari1255]

I saw this exact same thing with my ex's grandmother. She'd sit in her chair all day and yell for people to bring her food. She couldn't even walk because she was so fat it destroyed her knees. This is going to sound harsh, but **** people like that. They should be left to fend for themselves. At what point do we say enough is enough and stop trying to save everyone from themselves?

I understand the obesity issue causes insurance premiums to rise and we end up footing the bill, but thats because we as a society have for some reason taken it upon ourselves to get into everyone elses business and need to save everyone. I'm unique in most conversations about things like this because I'm of the opinion that these people should be on their own and should be a burden to no one.

Sorry, I don't really give a shit if the lady in the hood has 16 kids that she can't feed...it's her problem not mine. I also don't give a shit about the morbidly obese people who will die if we don't save them. Again, their problem, not mine. Public money is for the benefit of the public, not so we can save every asshole that couldn't hack it in life.

Same. Fvck Marshon, Tameeka, Tamarra, Jamal, Jameeka etc....

[GirlyGymRat]

my wife brought up a point the other day that pissed her off. When you go to the airport the weigh you luggage, Now my wife brings a lot of clothes and stuff. So she has to be extra money for a bag being over the 40lb limit. But someone can have a bag thats 38lbs and the person can weigh 200lbs more then my wife and not have to pay an extra fee. How does that make sense.

Ticks me too but I have a solution. Pay by the pound just like cargo. Airlines can charge same fee at reservation, but when we show up at the terminal, be prepared to jump on the scale with your luggage. They can then credit my account. My strappy sandels and xtra clothes come no way close pound for pound.

Since the lines will be alittle longer at the gate, I also thought about how we can speed up the security checkin. Arrive naked. Go through all security screening and then get dressed. Make sure you pack your attire in carry-on. Since some people might like to just fly naked, a fee will be charged to buy a coverall - unisex one size fits all.

I also would like to see people grouped by weight ranges in a row (except for children under 16 traveling with parents- I do have a heart) Tiny, medium, big, xtra big. All the big and xtra big folks should have to sit in the same row.

[evander87]

I also would like to see people grouped by weight ranges in a row (except for children under 16 traveling with parents- I do have a heart) Tiny, medium, big, xtra big. All the big and xtra big folks should have to sit in the same row.

What about up tall fukkers? I hate airlines as it is, my knees crammed into the seat in front of me. If some fattie hogs the arm rest I'm punching him in the throat!

[GirlyGymRat]

I think some of the issue is education. I didn't learn about proper nutrition until I came to this site. My mom did what she thought was right (red meat, potatoes, corn). The food pyramid is messed up a bit as well. Proper nutrition not taught in schools. There are no consequence for folks who make bad decisions.

Diabetes, high cholesterol runs in my family....but I changed my diet and all of a sudden those issues are gone. My doctor looked disappointed because I no longer needed to have regular office visits. Sometimes DR are professional drug dealers.

I would rather see health care dollars spent on quality of life and anti aging, low t treatment since we are living longer for those who are fighting the fight. But I don't want to see the folks don't take responsibilty get that same benefit.

[GirlyGymRat]

What about up tall fukkers? I hate airlines as it is, my knees crammed into the seat in front of me. If some fattie hogs the arm rest I'm punching him in the throat!

big as in wide.

I feel sorry for tall people. Your knees are in your eye sockets, get let cramps. Even average guys have a hard time fitting into those tight spaces. But gosh, I got swolled up by too morbidy obese people in the middle seat. And they pulled up the arm rest so they could morph into my space. I insisted the arm rests be pulled down, cuz they like me to lean forward the whole 4 hour flight cuz they so fat.

I don't have a problem giving a little bit of my space to folks who are broader from working out as long as they don't have BO. Like i said, I am not heartless.

[GirlyGymRat]

damn bronzer, great transformation! i wish i would have found this site sooner, makes all the difference in the world

Bronzer, you own it! Awesome!!!

RC...I couldn't agree more! This site has blessed me with better health.

[JohnnyVegas]

my wife brought up a point the other day that pissed her off. When you go to the airport the weigh you luggage, Now my wife brings a lot of clothes and stuff. So she has to be extra money for a bag being over the 40lb limit. But someone can have a bag thats 38lbs and the person can weigh 200lbs more then my wife and not have to pay an extra fee. How does that make sense.

I have always been annoyed by that too. You know the airlines would do it if they could, but the public outcry would be massive. Plus, I weight 100 pounds more than my wife...I would hate for my ticket to cost twice as much just because I am eight inches taller and a lot more muscular.

In regards to the original topic - I agree that there are very few people that will have a truly hard time losing weight. The problem is most people don't diet when they only have ten pounds to lose. They do it when they have 60 pounds to lose and it requires long-term dedication...something most people seem to be unwilling to muster. I lost 75 pounds once and it...was...hard!

[cherrydrpepper]

Good thread. There is a quote my dad says even though im sure he probably wasn't the first to say it:

"Whether you think you can or can't, you're right."

[Gaspari1255]

What I want to know is how many people 50-100 years ago had a thyroid problem that made them fat compared to today.

People today are not raised to have any self-control. You become a drug-addict or a drunk. It's not your fault, you just have a disease. Fat? You've got a disability and a disease. There is no point in having self-control, because nobody takes responsibility for themselves.

And on top of that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. The worst thing you could give an obese person is a handicap sticker. Now they get to do even less walking. It just further perpetuates the problem

I blame parents though. It's a parent's job to raise their kids to have healthy eating habits. In fact, parents are criticized for trying to teach their kids not to overeat.

http://news.yahoo.com/forcing-7-old-...162200716.html

Psychological, hereditary & thyroid issues aside... There are two things that we can control, what comes out of our mouths(what we say) & what we put in our mouths(what we eat). If obese people drank water, ate veges and fruits, lean proteins and fish, nuts, etc & walked every day & used light weights, they'd begin to build lean muscle mass & therefore counter the obesity(& depression). If they cut out the processed, preservative filled foods, coffee & tea w/artifical sweeters, all diet drinks (proven to create addiction & weight gain), all Aspartame/Sucralose products, fast food, they'd give their bodies a chance to detox. There have been plenty of people who have been 300+pounds who changed what they ate, drank & became active & are at healthy weights now. Pharmaceutical companies, FDA, doctors, Monsanto... don't want us to change our habits as they make money on us being sick, addicted and overweight. I looked in my grandmother's yearbook from 1958 and there was not ONE obese person. Were they psychologically in better shape? Or were there NO fast food restaurants, vaccines, diet drinks, genetically modified foods, animals filled w/antibiotics & steroids , preservative filled foods? And didn't they walk more, bicycle more, do more active things outside? Wasn't there less tv? By giving irresponsible people carte blanche w/healthcare & welfare, by allowing big corporations to continue to make deadly products/drugs, by not holding people accountable for their actions w/their own health, haven't we, as a society perpetuated exactly what HK is saying?


Spot on post brother!

[JohnnyVegas]

^^^ Agreed. I wish nutrition was taught EVERY YEAR in school. Most people simply don't know what is healthy, they only relate food with pleasure.