Gym Idiots

**Razor** · 08-09-2012, 06:07 PM

Anyone have a group of guys at their gym and they run bad cycles continuously? First they have no clue what they are doing and second wont listen to any wisdom beyond what they think is correct. They all use gear and gain 15lbs then lose it. This has happened multiple times.

Idiot 1: Takes a 8 week cycle of sustanon , while taking nolvadex ED, and no AI, then has no pct what so ever. He tells me today "Hey you heard of sust 300?" Im like yea sure, but didnt you run sustanon your last cycle which was sust 250? I said its not going to make that much difference and your still going to lose all you gains if you dont start doing it right. And eating right. hes stuck at 210 and I dont see him going any further even if he does another stupid cycle. I could not even tell this guy was on cycle when he told me he was, I really saw no difference in his body comp or strength.

Idiot 2: Done at least 5-6 cycles and is only 215, the last cycle this guy did failed and I dont even know what he was on but he decided he wants to do another one. No one in the gym believes in AI, HCG or PCT no matter what you tell them. Ive even told people about this site and that they need to come on here and read about what they are doing and learn a better way to run gear. All he talks about is winny. Im like dude you need to read up and learn about better gear like tren , tbol, var real test and that stuff. But people get winny in their minds and you cant talk them out of it. Its like a deer in headlights.

Idiot 3: This guy does half reps on most of his exercises and never works out legs. Never seen him on the squat rack squatting anything. Kinda looks like a top heavy stick figure. All he wants to do it take gear but does not want to train or eat right. Well Ill just eat everything and anything I want kinda attitude. Ontop of that hes a hardgainer.

The first two guys would get huge if they ate right and cycled properly and I really hate seeing them fail over and over again. One of them came up to me and said dude you look smaller, what happened. I laugh and said dude im the same weight and putting up the same weight im just not on anything right now. Then I had to explain that im lethal dose of letro everyday which I had to explain what that was, which I was hoping would translate into questions on AI's and running things properly by the book and other proven methods. After I heard that I walked over loaded up 315 and pushed out 4 reps after majority of my chest workout was over just to show them whats up. Kinda More or less they nod there head, then tomorrow I know it will be more questions on winny Im sure.

Beating head against wall by now. I wish no one in the gym would tell me anything, ignorance is bliss, and I would not have to feel sorry for them and there balls...How do you make this make sense to people and make a break through "well my brother or the guy I get gear from said do it this way"....sigh

I figure you guys could relate

**Times Roman** · 08-09-2012, 06:12 PM

Really? I barely talk to anyone at the gym.

**Razor** · 08-09-2012, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Really? I barely talk to anyone at the gym.

Well ive been at the gym 4 years, I know mostly everyone. Its even on a military base were you would think people would be more hush hush about using steroids .

**lstbred** · 08-09-2012, 07:21 PM

I had a guy last night (cool guy but didnt know jack) he said every one ofthe things spewed that are not true or preventable; roid rage , bitch tits, nuts shrink, ever hear of winstrol ? I told him about 99% of that is sh*t, steriods dont make you strong or yoked, you take xxx and sit on the couch yourna get fat, period, you gotta WORK, roids are just a tool you use to get a specific job done (little fast) thats t.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-10-2012, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Razor

Well ive been at the gym 4 years, I know mostly everyone. Its even on a military base were you would think people would be more hush hush about using steroids.

Razr, you know there are tons of people in the military that aren't the brightest. How many people did you know during your stint with the Marines that got chaptered out for doing stupid shit?

But yeah, I agree with TR here. I don't say much to people in the gym, except stuff like "Sup" or "I got about x sets left." I really also don't watch how people work out. I hate it when people watch me workout out, so I try to practice what I preach.

**Misery13** · 08-10-2012, 06:54 AM

Just keep to yourself.

**jasc** · 08-10-2012, 07:31 AM

I walk in the door, headphones go on and I get to work. I never say more than hi or respond with how many sets. Been there 5 yrs n maybe talk to 1-2 guys n thats only outside the gym. I see people cycling, wearing their tank tops covered in acne n gettin swole. A month or 2 later they disappear for a while n come back half the size.. kinda sad really..

**oscarjones** · 08-10-2012, 04:19 PM

I think out of all the places in the world (even the middle east) there's more people on the internet forums that I wish I could meet in real life and duel them. Man there are so many ****-heads. I think a lot of them are actually females.

**Razor** · 08-10-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by jasc

I walk in the door, headphones go on and I get to work. I never say more than hi or respond with how many sets. Been there 5 yrs n maybe talk to 1-2 guys n thats only outside the gym. I see people cycling, wearing their tank tops covered in acne n gettin swole. A month or 2 later they disappear for a while n come back half the size.. kinda sad really..

Shit man Im just gonna change gyms I think. And start over with the headphones and only talk to girls

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Razr, you know there are tons of people in the military that aren't the brightest. How many people did you know during your stint with the Marines that got chaptered out for doing stupid shit?

But yeah, I agree with TR here. I don't say much to people in the gym, except stuff like "Sup" or "I got about x sets left." I really also don't watch how people work out. I hate it when people watch me workout out, so I try to practice what I preach.

I knew 3 guys that got busted for gear, the Bataillon Commander found needles in the porter potty, then searched everyones stuff and found 3 guys with gear, but they were the only ones that were tested. The rest of the ones that got the boot was for UA, weed, cocaine and other drugs testing positive. The corps does not do random testing for steroids , only if there is probbable cause.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-10-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

Shit man Im just gonna change gyms I think. And start over with the headphones and only talk to girls

I knew 3 guys that got busted for gear, the Bataillon Commander found needles in the porter potty, then searched everyones stuff and found 3 guys with gear, but they were the only ones that were tested. The rest of the ones that got the boot was for UA, weed, cocaine and other drugs testing positive. The corps does not do random testing for steroids, only if there is probbable cause.

I didn't know of anyone who got busted for gear ever in the army. I knew quite a few people who got in trouble with rec drugs during random testing.

I'm sorry, but anybody stupid enough to leave needles out to be found deserves to be caught.

**Razor** · 08-10-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I didn't know of anyone who got busted for gear ever in the army. I knew quite a few people who got in trouble with rec drugs during random testing.

I'm sorry, but anybody stupid enough to leave needles out to be found deserves to be caught.

Yea the corps never tests for gear unless they find cause. You can even be huge and they wont test you as long as they dont find anything in theater or during Field day back in barracks on a thursday night. Or someone rats you out..lame

**Far from massive** · 08-10-2012, 04:46 PM

The gym I work out at I don't think I have met many who have even done gear. With that in mind one of the guys who is always there in the morning and talking to everyone is going from subject to subject in his ADHD manner and all of a sudden he is telling me about this guy he knew who got screwed up on steroids and how bad they are kinda like to warn me of the dangers. How the guy was unaproachable, full of rage, constantly hurting himself and in marriage after marriage due to his Mr Hyde steroid induced personality.

It was all I could do not to ask how much he was on and tell him I was blasting on a gram and a half of Mast/Tren /Test so did he think I should cut my dose LOL

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-10-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

Yea the corps never tests for gear unless they find cause. You can even be huge and they wont test you as long as they dont find anything in theater or during Field day back in barracks on a thursday night. Or someone rats you out..lame

Yeah, the army doesn't test for gear unless you give them a reason to. I don't really think it's in the solder's interest to get unnaturally huge though.

**Razor** · 08-10-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Yeah, the army doesn't test for gear unless you give them a reason to. I don't really think it's in the solder's interest to get unnaturally huge though.

How much do those test run..Thousands right? You can test for high "test" but they have to find it in your system correct, how do they base it?

**Atomini** · 08-10-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

How much do those test run..Thousands right? You can test for high "test" but they have to find it in your system correct, how do they base it?

Testing for AAS is extremely expensive, and must be sent to specialized labs (most of the time it is sent to the IOC WADA labs owned by the Olympic comittee in California somewhere, I forgot the exact location). I know that there is one they use where samples are sent to the olympic testing laboratory at the University of California at Los Angeles. You don't realize how freaking expensive it actually is to test for hormones and anabolic steroids . The testing done to find out if someone is using or has been using is to find the metabolites in the person's urine, blood, or hair samples. And they need to do a whole assay of every single substance until they narrow it down to whatever the person being tested is using. And even once that is complete, the testing isn't over... they need to pinpoint it further (because if you stop too early and come to conclusions too early - there is a very high risk of false positives). Because of the expensive equipment, the complicated testing procedure, etc.... the military does NOT have the money to be testing every troop for AAS. They don't even have the money to be testing 1 out of every 10 troops. It is, as many have already stated, something in which they need reasonable doubt as to whether or not someone is using, and then get a test approved by a commander. Testing for AAS makes testing for simple recreational drugs look like pennies per person.

Let me put it this way... 1000 people being tested for AAS would cost half a million dollars.