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Deload that is. So I had been hitting PR's of some sort every session and thought I had training dialed in, until diet had to change and weight gain stopped and gains in gym were starting to get hindered by feeling run down. Really felt like I needed a deload, as many people implement some form into their regime. I chose to just go without lifting this time. How long should I do it? Debating deadlifting heavy tonight, been out for little over a week, figured I could train twice this week, 2-3 times next week and whatever is possible after that working back up to my 3-4 times a week. But I'm still feeling sore and run down like I need more time off. So what should I do? Take a few more days, will be out of town over weekend, so should I just bag this week and start next monday? I really don't want to start over with my strength gains, as I am squatting 415x5 with ease, aside from the pain, benching 345x5 etc. I want to be in my top shape ever before starting a cycle in 2 months or so, but I also want to be ready for it, it wouldn't hurt to take advantage of my current restricted diet and lose a few lbs in prep too. But if I am not at least hitting my best lifts I don't want to cycle before I am not making progress without it.

So if I feel like I need to do some more healing could I extend this out to two weeks and then ease back into lifting?

[Bigd89]

Cant help ya, but good lifts. What is your height and weight?

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5'8" 230 lbs, 20% bf give or take 5% ha.

[Razor]

Deload that is. So I had been hitting PR's of some sort every session and thought I had training dialed in, until diet had to change and weight gain stopped and gains in gym were starting to get hindered by feeling run down. Really felt like I needed a deload, as many people implement some form into their regime. I chose to just go without lifting this time. How long should I do it? Debating deadlifting heavy tonight, been out for little over a week, figured I could train twice this week, 2-3 times next week and whatever is possible after that working back up to my 3-4 times a week. But I'm still feeling sore and run down like I need more time off. So what should I do? Take a few more days, will be out of town over weekend, so should I just bag this week and start next monday? I really don't want to start over with my strength gains, as I am squatting 415x5 with ease, aside from the pain, benching 345x5 etc. I want to be in my top shape ever before starting a cycle in 2 months or so, but I also want to be ready for it, it wouldn't hurt to take advantage of my current restricted diet and lose a few lbs in prep too. But if I am not at least hitting my best lifts I don't want to cycle before I am not making progress without it.

So if I feel like I need to do some more healing could I extend this out to two weeks and then ease back into lifting?

I'm in deload this week as well! Need rest

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I'm in deload this week as well! Need rest

doing just one week or two?

[Razor]

doing just one week or two?

I'm gonna comimit to one week..I'm doing ronnies sstm..ill see how I feel in a week and might do another one as well if I'm not rested enough. I've been redlining for 6 months now. I must rest..

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I'm gonna comimit to one week..I'm doing ronnies sstm..ill see how I feel in a week and might do another one as well if I'm not rested enough. I've been redlining for 6 months now. I must rest..

Yeah I would prefer a week so I wouldn't lose strength, but at this point, it feels like a must.

[Razor]

Yeah I would prefer a week so I wouldn't lose strength, but at this point, it feels like a must.

Dude I didnt workout today!! My first day of rest and I feel amazing, better than I did if I had gone to the gym and I got so much more stuff done today. Im so glad I got a week off...hope you reap the same rewards.

[gearbox]

5'8" 230 lbs, 20% bf give or take 5% ha.

Give or take 5%... so you could be 25?

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Yeah I would prefer a week so I wouldn't lose strength, but at this point, it feels like a must.

i dont think you'll lose much strength if you rest a wk or 2. even if you do, i'm sure you'll regain it quickly once you're back on it. so, take whatever rest you need!

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Thanks, I mean I was at a point even pull ups hurt, so hope you are right.

and yeah I have no clue what my bodyfat is. Basically the unlikelihood of me being 25% is the same as me being 15%. but who knows

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Thanks, I mean I was at a point even pull ups hurt, so hope you are right.

and yeah I have no clue what my bodyfat is. Basically the unlikelihood of me being 25% is the same as me being 15%. but who knows

you mean thats not you in your avi?...

jk..

[Razor]

Seige, are you planning on cutting your calories by 300-500 while de-loading?

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Seige, are you planning on cutting your calories by 300-500 while de-loading?

Yeah I'm eating less, and still feeling fatter lol.

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you mean thats not you in your avi?...

jk..

Yeah, i guess i'm not a plastic toy model.

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Yeah I'm eating less, and still feeling fatter lol.

Get the NYC stack

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Get the NYC stack

Actually i have some blood work coming up, thryoid and such, but after if it's still looking sub par and they don't put me on armor thyroid I'm going to buy some T3 and cut for 8 weeks before I blast. I dunno I don't really want to lose weight, but I'm starting to think it would be bad to blast and consume mass calories. Maybe I will and then just do a serious cut afterwards.

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Actually i have some blood work coming up, thryoid and such, but after if it's still looking sub par and they don't put me on armor thyroid I'm going to buy some T3 and cut for 8 weeks before I blast. I dunno I don't really want to lose weight, but I'm starting to think it would be bad to blast and consume mass calories. Maybe I will and then just do a serious cut afterwards.

Well I was suggesting the NYC cause it has good peer reviews here and you dont have to mess with your thyroid like you would with T3

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Well I was suggesting the NYC cause it has good peer reviews here and you dont have to mess with your thyroid like you would with T3

Yeah, i'm hoping my thyroid is functioning better because of these diet changes, was the whole point to stop my hashimoto's from being a problem. but if it looks bad I'm guessing he will prescribe something. I've never been a big fan of thermogenic supplements etc. I usually can lose weight ok it's just a pain in the ass, and I always mentally struggle because I think I'm losing muscle.

[Razor]

Ill keep you posted on this but this is the ingredients of the NYC. basic stuff

Yerba Mate 10mg + Green Tea Extract 100mg + Vel vet Bean Ext 50mg + Nore 20mg (Herbal Alkaloids) + Caffeine 150mg + Synephrine HCL 10mg + Yohimbine HCL 1mg.

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isn't synephrine similar to ephedra? And btw my sensitivity to this stuff is insane. normally I don't notice caffeine from soda, but i took some supplements years ago that kept me up all night long, and make me sick like i was going to throw up at the gym.

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isn't synephrine similar to ephedra? And btw my sensitivity to this stuff is insane. normally I don't notice caffeine from soda, but i took some supplements years ago that kept me up all night long, and make me sick like i was going to throw up at the gym.

you dont think t3 would be more intense?

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you dont think t3 would be more intense?

not if I keep dose under control. it's naturally in your body already, but of course too much can cause anxiety and other serious problems.

[Razor]

I'm 3 house into my fist dose of the NYC stack so far so good. Felt a little quizy but seemed to go away

[Razor]

Siege you doing cardio at all. I did a lite 30min on the stairs today.