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    2016 The Movie

    This is a must see. If you care about politics you will like this movie. If you are an Obama fan you will be happy where the country is going. If you are not an Obama fan it will scare the hell out of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599
    This is a must see. If you care about politics you will like this movie. If you are an Obama fan you will be happy where the country is going. If you are not an Obama fan it will scare the hell out of you.
    Its been going down hill since jimmy Carter...nothing any of us can do man..I don't even worry about this stuff anymore...$2,000,000,000 will win you the presidency..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
    Its been going down hill since jimmy Carter...nothing any of us can do man..I don't even worry about this stuff anymore...$2,000,000,000 will win you the presidency..

    "politics is old men talking and young men dying"
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    I hope your wrong, if we all vote we can change it. We have to hold them to what they say? It is sad that the guy with the most money wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599

    I hope your wrong, if we all vote we can change it. We have to hold them to what they say? It is sad that the guy with the most money wins.
    Popular vote does not win the election its the electoral college. We are a capitalism socially structured society...money always wins.

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    The wife and I are going Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    The wife and I are going Friday.
    You should take a group of friends and family. You will be a much more informed voter

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    Just curious, what did you get out of the movie that made you more informed?

    They played music throughout the entire movie. I felt like I was watching Halloween or Friday the 13th. It supremely annoying and distracting.

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    I don't like getting into politics. Or people that are too into politics for that matter. It's all bullshit. It doesn't matter if you're republican or democrat it will be the same shit on both sides. Whatever they have to say or agree with for people's votes. Mitt Romney is a moron. Not a Mormon I meant moron. And Obama is no better he only won the first election because of what he promised (and didnt do) on top of the fact liberals ate up how he is bi racial. but I still think he's a better choice than Romney

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    I say bring Clinton back for another term. Blow jobs are better than no jobs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDawg1536 View Post
    Just curious, what did you get out of the movie that made you more informed?

    They played music throughout the entire movie. I felt like I was watching Halloween or Friday the 13th. It supremely annoying and distracting.
    I did not believe that he really hated what America stood for. He has said he wants to fundamentally change America. Now I know what he eans by that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    I hope your wrong, if we all vote we can change it. We have to hold them to what they say? It is sad that the guy with the most money wins.
    I am all for getting out and voting, but the problem we have is there is know one to vote for. what i mean by that is today all campaigns are run on the what the other party stands for or doesnt stand for. politicians are not asking us to vote for them based off what they stand for or what they believe. instead they are asking us to vote against their opponent.

    What America needs is someone worth voting for.

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    I still believe in America and this great nation of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt2jay View Post
    I am all for getting out and voting, but the problem we have is there is know one to vote for. what i mean by that is today all campaigns are run on the what the other party stands for or doesnt stand for. politicians are not asking us to vote for them based off what they stand for or what they believe. instead they are asking us to vote against their opponent.

    What America needs is someone worth voting for.
    and the president only effects so much you still have the same pathetic people in the house and senate
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    This particular president has thumbed his nose at the people, the constitution and the laws that are in place to control Govt. MANY times in the last 4 years......it's not too late......and just because Romney has an R before his name on the ballot doesnt make him evil...... he IS in fact a good business man and could effect some much needed change in this country...... as far as candidates running on the premise that their opponents are crooks, I see Mitt actually addressing many issues head on and I see Obama doing the same thing he always does....vague answers and talking shit that cant be substantiated in any way shape or form, how many lies does this guy get to tell before the left wakes up and realises they were duped. Everyone blathers on about how we need to be bipartisan...... well........if Mitt doesn't fit the bill, nobody does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    and the president only effects so much you still have the same pathetic people in the house and senate
    i agree and i feel the same applies in the house in senate. more of the vote against my opposition and not enough vote for me.

    probably why nothing gets done and the only constant is thing keep getting worse and the government keeps wasting money and that goes for all parties

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    This particular president has thumbed his nose at the people, the constitution and the laws that are in place to control Govt. MANY times in the last 4 years......it's not too late......and just because Romney has an R before his name on the ballot doesnt make him evil...... he IS in fact a good business man and could effect some much needed change in this country...... as far as candidates running on the premise that their opponents are crooks, I see Mitt actually addressing many issues head on and I see Obama doing the same thing he always does....vague answers and talking shit that cant be substantiated in any way shape or form, how many lies does this guy get to tell before the left wakes up and realises they were duped. Everyone blathers on about how we need to be bipartisan...... well........if Mitt doesn't fit the bill, nobody does.
    Well said

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    get rid of lobbying and the country can start getting on the right track

    Or the people need to revolt against all forms of government.Dem or Republican neither does shit for this country

    Until then every politician is bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    This particular president has thumbed his nose at the people, the constitution and the laws that are in place to control Govt. MANY times in the last 4 years......it's not too late......and just because Romney has an R before his name on the ballot doesnt make him evil...... he IS in fact a good business man and could effect some much needed change in this country...... as far as candidates running on the premise that their opponents are crooks, I see Mitt actually addressing many issues head on and I see Obama doing the same thing he always does....vague answers and talking shit that cant be substantiated in any way shape or form, how many lies does this guy get to tell before the left wakes up and realises they were duped. Everyone blathers on about how we need to be bipartisan...... well........if Mitt doesn't fit the bill, nobody does.
    This guy got elected because no one wanted a republican in office after bush and the palin experiment. Repubs gave him the election

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    Oh to go back to the days of Ronnie Reagan!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    I see Mitt actually addressing many issues head on and I see Obama doing the same thing he always does....vague answers and talking shit that cant be substantiated in any way shape or form, how many lies does this guy get to tell before the left wakes up and realises they were duped.
    Wait, what???? What issues has Mitt Romney addressed head on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDawg1536 View Post
    Wait, what???? What issues has Mitt Romney addressed head on?
    Really! You need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC. Watch Fox news and you will see him take on the issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    Really! You need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC. Watch Fox news and you will see him take on the issues
    So name a couple. Shouldn't be that hard then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    Really! You need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC. Watch Fox news and you will see him take on the issues
    he hasnt given details on anything. I'm going to fix this and that, then when asked how there is no response.
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    What does he plan to do with health care? Tax rates? Immigration? Iran? Come on you well-informed Foxers supporting the transparent issue attacker.

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    So you haven't heard him say we would allow companies to start drilling for oil, restrict the EPA, balance the budget. I could go on but I see no need. If you haven't heard, that only means you don't want to hear it. Or you listen to the wrong news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    So you haven't heard him say we would allow companies to start drilling for oil, restrict the EPA, balance the budget. I could go on but I see no need. If you haven't heard, that only means you don't want to hear it. Or you listen to the wrong news
    balance the budget how? You get no detials.

    Thats like me coming on and saying im going to support world peace and end starvation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    So you haven't heard him say we would allow companies to start drilling for oil, restrict the EPA, balance the budget. I could go on but I see no need. If you haven't heard, that only means you don't want to hear it. Or you listen to the wrong news
    I listen to and read dozens of different news providers. Did fox tell you how he is going to balance the budget? Where will he cut spending? Where will he spend more?

    What does a "firm stance" on immigration look like?

    What is a "tough" foreign policy?

    The guy won't even discuss his faith, taxes, or business career.

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    ^^^^^ He has in fact discussed ALL those things.........let me google that shit for you......whether or not you trust him is a totally different subject but for those who are confused we only have 2 choices, doesn't matter how you registered or what statement you thought you were making when you did so, there are only 2 choices and we can do a fairly good job of judging what both of those choices will do in the future simply by looking at what they've done in the past.

    Here you go Dawgie........http://www.mittromney.com/issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    ^^^^^ He has in fact discussed ALL those things.........let me google that shit for you......whether or not you trust him is a totally different subject but for those who are confused we only have 2 choices, doesn't matter how you registered or what statement you thought you were making when you did so, there are only 2 choices and we can do a fairly good job of judging what both of those choices will do in the future simply by looking at what they've done in the past.

    Here you go Dawgie........http://www.mittromney.com/issues
    You've heard him talk about balancing the budget, taxes, and immigration?

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    I'm not sure how to satisfy your question, I even googled it for you, all you need to do is read what he says his solutions are or follow him on a regular basis and I'm sure he will make mention of it sooner than later. If you think obama is your man then vote for him by all means, I'm merely sharing what I know. That's the funny thing about the truth and facts.......they don't discriminate, anyone can be offended by them or deny them if they choose.

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    Oh God how bad is Clint Eastwood at the gop
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDawg1536 View Post
    What does he plan to do with health care? Tax rates? Immigration? Iran? Come on you well-informed Foxers supporting the transparent issue attacker.
    Answers:

    1. Health Care: repeal Obama Care, put in place new reform, which includes: allow people to buy insurance across state lines, reduce malpractice lawsuits, end preexisting condition restrictions, allow both businesses and individuals to form buying pools, reduce federal insurance restrictions and allow the states to put in place the restrictions they desire, promote flexibility and subsidies to help those who are not insured - this among several other related things.

    2. Immigration: increase the number of visas given to high skilled workers, grant citizenship to anyone who earns a degree in the U.S., increase the ease and availability for visas for non-skilled workers, develop mandatory employment verification, decrease the inefficiency of of entrance processing, allow citizens who legally enter to bring their wives and children - this among several other things. Basically making the pathway for legal entrance more feasible as it is extremely difficult currently, which is why so many come illegally.

    3. Tax Rates: 20% reduction in marginal rates, remove death tax, cut corporate rate by 25%, remove alternative minimum tax for individuals and corporations.

    4. Iran: Return a fleet presence in the gulf as well as strengthen military coordination with Israel. Increase sanctions on Iranian businesses and banks. Deploy defense systems interceptor systems and increase missile defense systems and capabilities. Will not allow Russian vetoes to hinder security. Keep the military option on the table if Iran ignores the sanctions and strong military presence by continuing its nuclear program.

    5. Budget: cap spending at 20% of GDP, cut non-security discretionary spending by 5%. Directly from the link given above:
    a. Repeal Obamacare
    b. Privatize Amtrak
    c. Reduce Subsidies For The National Endowments For The Arts And Humanities
    d. Eliminate Title X Family Planning Funding
    e. Reduce Foreign Aid
    f. Align Federal Employee Compensation With The Private Sector
    g. Repeal The Davis-Bacon Act
    h. Reduce The Federal Workforce By 10 Percent Via Attrition
    i. Consolidate agencies

    These are all things he's stated time and time again. I feel those who keep saying he hasn't addressed the issues dare not paying attention to him or they simply don't care for his answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand5599 View Post
    This is a must see. If you care about politics you will like this movie. If you are an Obama fan you will be happy where the country is going. If you are not an Obama fan it will scare the hell out of you.
    Very good! The best part is no one can argue the statements made about Obama when referring the premise of the film as each one was based on his own statements from his own autobiography.

    The way I see it, he doesn't want America to fail, however, he sees America as successful in a way that most wouldn't consider success. Call it un-American or not it's a very different view on how things should be and quite unlike one any U.S. president has ever had. I do not think Obama sees America as being a nation that is worthy of its place in the world and that it can only be worthy when its economic system and general way of thinking is more in line with the rest of the world.

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    Saw it last night.

    OMG

    Must see

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