Cooking with Bonaparte

**warmouth** · 11-08-2012, 11:38 PM

With my recent intrest of getting into this little hobby,I was digging around to try to find someinstructional videos. This is it

It there enough data here for you guys who know what you are doing to critique this guy? Something you would have done different? Or is there just not enough footage? Sure, this could have went into another thread/forum, but I am sure alot of you guys are alsointerested in at least learning, even if you never make it. Heck, at least it is something to watch that we all love!

**Shsm** · 11-08-2012, 11:56 PM

I enjoyed watching every single one of American Underworld's episodes on YouTube. I believe Discovery Channel cancelled the series

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:06 AM

I would like to find a good video that had instructions. This lifestyle is too much about trial and error, which is fine if you have the funds. I dont, so I would just be crashing gear and losing my money. I remember Basline had a good one up one on "someones" profile, but it has since been gone.

**Shsm** · 11-09-2012, 12:11 AM

I don't think you'll have much luck trying to find an indtructional video of someone personally explaining how to brew up illegal substances on YouTube, dude. Your best bet in my opinion would probably be PMing some member in this board. I can see why you would find this interesting though; just imagine how much money you would save and how much less of a hassle waiting on your orders to fall through from suppliers would be. Good luck!

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 12:17 AM

This show is all fake.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I don't think you'll have much luck trying to find an indtructional video of someone personally explaining how to brew up illegal substances on YouTube, dude. Your best bet in my opinion would probably be PMing some member in this board. I can see why you would find this interesting though; just imagine how much money you would save and how much less of a hassle waiting on your orders to fall through from suppliers would be. Good luck!

Are you serious? I know I am not going to find an instructional video on youtube on how to make injectable drugs. It is called fishing. Not for a source, but for a genius mind.......Maybe, just maybe, he'll take the bait. Also,money saved is money earned. It it is for personal use only, which it is, it will cost me far less than buying from a UGL, or if not, Ill still know the exact dosing and the pride of making it myself!

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

This show is all fake.

Of course. This is why I was wanting some of you guys to pick it apart. Or is it? Are you trying to hide something Austinite? You sitting over there in Texas with that big ol' arm you got there. Sitting in your jeans, jean shirt and jean jacket.

**Shsm** · 11-09-2012, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

This show is all fake.

Definitely agree. Still very entertaining though

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 12:29 AM

Yup. I enjoyed watching it as well

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:37 AM

See, if some of our cookers come onhere and start bashing this guy for "doing that" or "doing this", Ill be able to take advice from a youtube video! See what I am trying to do? Their criticisms would be the actual advice I would take and then write it in my journal and be 1 step closer. That lab forum never gets any traffic anymore.

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 12:40 AM

Well for one... he probably couldn't sit down for days after that video. Never flick the syringe. Even for a fake show that was stupid.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Well for one... he probably couldn't sit down for days after that video. Never flick the syringe. Even for a fake show that was stupid.

I KNOW!!! Not only did he flick it, but he moved it all over oncehe was pinned. That my friends = PIP! I got to get into this stuff! Looks so fun. Ill let Bona dress like he did in that video and go to an undisclosed area blindfolded to watch how it is made, on my own dime! For documenatry purposes only that is.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:48 AM

Based on my new Avi, do you guys think this new cycle has kicked in? LOL!

**gixxerboy1** · 11-09-2012, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Shsm

I don't think you'll have much luck trying to find an indtructional video of someone personally explaining how to brew up illegal substances on YouTube, dude. Your best bet in my opinion would probably be PMing some member in this board. I can see why you would find this interesting though; just imagine how much money you would save and how much less of a hassle waiting on your orders to fall through from suppliers would be. Good luck!

you still have to find a source for powders. Then hope its a good one and the powder is not contaminated. Then still get it through customs.

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 12:49 AM

Not sure what the Bonaparte reference is about in the title. The only thing I could see in relation is the plastic tarps covering the rooms, resembling a kill room.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

you still have to find a source for powders. Then hope its a good one and the powder is not contaminated. Then still get it through customs.

Youre exactly right! I think I might have found a place, but cant get anyone to verify.

**gixxerboy1** · 11-09-2012, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Youre exactly right! I think I might have found a place, but cant get anyone to verify.

Also just remember if you get caught, doubt you will. but there is always a little risk, you are now manufacturing a lab.

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Also just remember if you get caught, doubt you will. but there is always a little risk, you are now manufacturing a lab.

And that would be Breaking Bad!

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Not sure what the Bonaparte reference is about in the title. The only thing I could see in relation is the plastic tarps covering the rooms, resembling a kill room.

Like a show "Cooking with Paula" or something like that. Only with Bona, you know what he is cooking. And this guys rented Apt just add to the mystique of Bonaparte. It is what I imagine him doing in his free time, at home, just chillin'.

**gixxerboy1** · 11-09-2012, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Youre exactly right! I think I might have found a place, but cant get anyone to verify.

you got a pm

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Also just remember if you get caught, doubt you will. but there is always a little risk, you are now manufacturing a lab.

This has also crossed my mind. I have a willing friend who has a business in screen design and a whole, empty shop attatched to it. About 2000 square feet, electrical outlets everywhere, I have several propane hot plates. Dont have much of anything else, but I am sure I got more than alot of guys had when they started. Plus, this shop is where he keeps his veterinarian drugs and pins for his cattle farm. Finaplex H pellets everywhere. That might even be an outlet if he was caught. He letters every cop car, firetruck and ambulance in a 50 mile radius. He is tight with the cops, so we might could fill them out....Just a thought.

**Shsm** · 11-09-2012, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

you still have to find a source for powders. Then hope its a good one and the powder is not contaminated. Then still get it through customs.

Yes sir, I forgot about that

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 01:09 AM

Thanks you guys! and Gixxer for the idea to think about. I didnt realize that.

**Bonaparte** · 11-09-2012, 01:10 AM

I saw that vid like 2 years ago.
Though they barely showed any of the process, I can safely say that his process was crap...but real.

Again, Warmouth, I have hundreds of posts with tips and tricks in the lab section. Just comb through there, and I'll help you out with any other specifics.

**austinite** · 11-09-2012, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by bonaparte

i saw that vid like 2 years ago.
Though they barely showed any of the process, i can safely say that his process was crap...but real.

lmao.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I saw that vid like 2 years ago.
Though they barely showed any of the process, I can safely say that his process was crap...but real.

Exactly what I wanted to hear! It was the only video I could find that showed a little bit of the process, although I knew it wasnt enough.

**warmouth** · 11-09-2012, 01:14 AM

I am going to be spending some time over there and posting stuff I just dont know about. When I get it, I get it. I am a perfectionst and want to make sure everything goes perfect and is safe.

**Bonaparte** · 11-09-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

lmao.

You doubt me?
Either someone really did their homework on powder packaging, brewing equipment etc, or they just found an actual idiot UGL cook. Which is more likely?
Sure, it may have been a seized lab with an actor working it, but who cares? He himself isn't what anyone is interested in.

**Honkey_Kong** · 11-09-2012, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

You doubt me?
Either someone really did their homework on powder packaging, brewing equipment etc, or they just found an actual idiot UGL cook. Which is more likely?
Sure, it may have been a seized lab with an actor working it, but who cares? He himself isn't what anyone is interested in.

I'm pretty sure it's an actor. I mean, if you were doing something illegal like that, would you invite a TV camera inside?

But from what you saw there, what was so crappy about the way that guy was making the gear?

AD · 11-09-2012, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I'm pretty sure it's an actor. I mean, if you were doing something illegal like that, would you invite a TV camera inside?

But from what you saw there, what was so crappy about the way that guy was making the gear?

(paper and pencil all ready to take notes. lots of notes.)

**baseline_9** · 11-09-2012, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I'm pretty sure it's an actor. I mean, if you were doing something illegal like that, would you invite a TV camera inside?

But from what you saw there, what was so crappy about the way that guy was making the gear?

Heating his gear in a water bath isnt a great move to begin with....

**red_hulk** · 11-09-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Heating his gear in a water bath isnt a great move to begin with....

Should have used a microwave

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2012, 10:48 AM

The idea of importing bulk powder and being investigated for manufacturing scares me WAY more than being "possibly" investigated for personal use!

**AXx** · 11-09-2012, 11:13 AM

I wanna do this so bad but as others have stated the risks are just crazy for me. I guess Im scared, lol

What you guys mean you dont flick the needle like that??? I always do so I can cause more damage to the muscle and it repairs itself bigger, lol. KIDDING

**Bonaparte** · 11-09-2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I'm pretty sure it's an actor. I mean, if you were doing something illegal like that, would you invite a TV camera inside?

But from what you saw there, what was so crappy about the way that guy was making the gear?

Well, the water bath is a bad idea.
The way he fills his vials is amateurish.
But I've chatted with several UGL owners and this really is how they do this stuff.
Also, he really had no understanding of the chemistry involved, but neither do most UGL cooks.
I still think it's real, since I didn't see any giveaways. Hell, if I were to do a show like that, I'd probably act like a nut too, just to have some fun and scare the crew. lol

**Honkey_Kong** · 11-10-2012, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Well, the water bath is a bad idea.
The way he fills his vials is amateurish.
But I've chatted with several UGL owners and this really is how they do this stuff.
Also, he really had no understanding of the chemistry involved, but neither do most UGL cooks.
I still think it's real, since I didn't see any giveaways. Hell, if I were to do a show like that, I'd probably act like a nut too, just to have some fun and scare the crew. lol

What do you do instead of a water bath? Are there any how-to videos online that you recommend?

**baseline_9** · 11-10-2012, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

What do you do instead of a water bath? Are there any how-to videos online that you recommend?

Just heat on a hot plate or my preferred method is to swirl your beaker above a low flame (I'm talking about 12 inches away)

I find that is a good way of getting even heat, a hot plate will obviously just heat the base of your beaker...

If u do the open flame method just remember if ur burning your hand your probably holding the beaker too close or have the flame too high...

**Honkey_Kong** · 11-10-2012, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Just heat on a hot plate or my preferred method is to swirl your beaker above a low flame (I'm talking about 12 inches away)

I find that is a good way of getting even heat, a hot plate will obviously just heat the base of your beaker...

If u do the open flame method just remember if ur burning your hand your probably holding the beaker too close or have the flame too high...

Yeah. How hot do you have to get it?

**lovbyts** · 11-11-2012, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I saw that vid like 2 years ago.
Though they barely showed any of the process, I can safely say that his process was crap...but real. Agreed, it was real although a lot left out.

Again, Warmouth, I have hundreds of posts with tips and tricks in the lab section. Just comb through there, and I'll help you out with any other specifics.

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Heating his gear in a water bath isnt a great move to begin with....

Agreed or at least with an open top or vented.

Originally Posted by red_hulk

Should have used a microwave

NO!!!

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Just heat on a hot plate or my preferred method is to swirl your beaker above a low flame (I'm talking about 12 inches away)

I find that is a good way of getting even heat, a hot plate will obviously just heat the base of your beaker...

If u do the open flame method just remember if ur burning your hand your probably holding the beaker too close or have the flame too high...

Agreed with in Bold.

I saw a couple of things that also were silly. He had the cup/beaker covered with tin foil when filling it with the syringe as if it would keep out contaminants then it was open top in the water to heat.

The powders should have been added after heating.

Not once (except in the preview) did I see him use any filters. BIG no no but in reality it's probably a lot more common that one would think and a easy way for someone to cut corners, save a LOT of time and make more $$$

After watching it a couple more times I do see Vac filters on the shelf and preview they just dont show him using them but then they dont show several things in the process. This is all due to READING I have done in the forums...