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    Quote Originally Posted by anahny View Post
    You can't be serious about your argument about starving children. For me that's the saddest thing and I get upset about it. But frankly its these people who have babies they can't take care of them. Children are the most innocent people in the the world. Why do you think so many countries have laws about children ancho many you have. There is over. 200 countries in this world with many you never heard of. It's not just the countries you see on tv here kids are starving. My point is, no matter how much you argue about the it nothing is going to change. Children will die due to starvation and people shouldn't have kids if they know they are going to suffer. You keep talking about statistics but nothing about these people having sex just because it feels good and having kids to suffer and die. Sending money to countries will help some children but no money will get these people to understand they shouldn't have kids just because they want to ****.
    Yeah starving children is sad. So are starving animals. Then this will blow your mind. I would feed a starving dog before I fed a starving adult human. Children I would definitly feed also. I would donate food to an animal shelter before I donate food to a human food shelter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Here is a stat, regaerding enough resources:

    For the past six years the world has consumed more food than it has produced. As a result, global food reserves are at the lowest level since 1974, when the world had 4 billion people. Today we have 7 billion.
    Again because people are having too many damn kids. Our population has nearly doubled in 40 years. That's ridiculous. That's why we don't have enough food.

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    Another quote:

    The gun-grabbers like to portray guns as the cause of violence, but that is like saying pencils are the cause of bad spelling. Lurking in the shadows is the real monster; prescription anti-depressants.

    Don't take my word for it, web search "SSRI violence", "SSRI suicide", and "SSRI murder."

    Adam Lanza, the shooter in Connecticut, was on Fanapt, an anti-psychotic medication whose manufacturer admits "frequently" results in increased aggression, panic, and impulse control disorder. In other words, the drug actually made his mental condition far worse and more prone to violence.

    Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters, was taking Zoloft and Luvox. The medical records of his co-shooter, Klebold, have not been made public. The same is true of the Dark Knight shooter, although we know he was under treatment for psychological problems.

    At least 90% of the perpetrators of mass shootings are on some type of medication, usually SSRIs, which have a well documented history of triggering extreme violence. Over at ssristories.com, there is a list of 66 school violence episodes linked to SSRIs. Yet doctors, urged on by pharmaceutical corporations, prescribe them to slightly over 10% of the public, mostly young people diagnosed with ADHD and depression. It is estimated 30% of those patients do not need medication and are made worse by it. SSRIs are handed out like candy to soldiers in the wars, and may go a long way towards explaining the epidemic of military suicides now exceeding losses from enemy action.

    Congress held hearings on SSRI induced violence but chose to do nothing lest they risk losing campaign donations from pharmaceutical corporations. Likewise, corporate media won't report this story out of fear they will lose those lucrative pharmaceutical ad deals.

    It is up to Americans to educate each other that the cause of these inexplicable outburst of violence are dangerous psychotropic drugs reckless prescribed solely because they are hugely profitable. And when guns are not available, SSRI patients can and have resorted to knives, baseball bats, sledgehammers, cars, and whatever else they can find.

    Guns are not the problem. Bad medications are.

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    Then keep people on those meds from buying guns
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    Absolutely

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    If you take anti-depressants or anti-psychotics=no gun To take these drugs are a choice. If you take them you obviously have mental problems, and you should not own any firearms.

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    Lol JJ I think your going to be the source of many arguments on this forum. Although I agree with everything you have said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria View Post
    Wow, I have never been upset at ANYONE on this board until now. "f you cannot afford to feed your children, you should not have had them." Explain how we should implement this grand plan!?!
    Free or inexpensive birth control and equality for women. Obviously education will help too.

    I don't disagree with the things you said, but if the goal is to have fewer starving children I think we can all chip in a little and help those that don't want any/more children (since they obviously won't stop having sex). We will all benefit in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78
    Another quote:

    The gun-grabbers like to portray guns as the cause of violence, but that is like saying pencils are the cause of bad spelling. Lurking in the shadows is the real monster; prescription anti-depressants.

    Don't take my word for it, web search "SSRI violence", "SSRI suicide", and "SSRI murder."

    Adam Lanza, the shooter in Connecticut, was on Fanapt, an anti-psychotic medication whose manufacturer admits "frequently" results in increased aggression, panic, and impulse control disorder. In other words, the drug actually made his mental condition far worse and more prone to violence.

    Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters, was taking Zoloft and Luvox. The medical records of his co-shooter, Klebold, have not been made public. The same is true of the Dark Knight shooter, although we know he was under treatment for psychological problems.

    At least 90% of the perpetrators of mass shootings are on some type of medication, usually SSRIs, which have a well documented history of triggering extreme violence. Over at ssristories.com, there is a list of 66 school violence episodes linked to SSRIs. Yet doctors, urged on by pharmaceutical corporations, prescribe them to slightly over 10% of the public, mostly young people diagnosed with ADHD and depression. It is estimated 30% of those patients do not need medication and are made worse by it. SSRIs are handed out like candy to soldiers in the wars, and may go a long way towards explaining the epidemic of military suicides now exceeding losses from enemy action.

    Congress held hearings on SSRI induced violence but chose to do nothing lest they risk losing campaign donations from pharmaceutical corporations. Likewise, corporate media won't report this story out of fear they will lose those lucrative pharmaceutical ad deals.

    It is up to Americans to educate each other that the cause of these inexplicable outburst of violence are dangerous psychotropic drugs reckless prescribed solely because they are hugely profitable. And when guns are not available, SSRI patients can and have resorted to knives, baseball bats, sledgehammers, cars, and whatever else they can find.

    Guns are not the problem. Bad medications are.
    100% agree, my half educated goofball doctor put me on SSRI's for 2 years, then 2 years on SNRI's, after my own research and investigation I got off it all & told him he been poising me. Told him YouTube Paxil withdrawals on YouTube. This shit took me 3 months to ween myself off, had worse withdrawal symptoms than hard street drugs, a girl I dated briefly kicked her heroin habit, diarrhea, cold sweats and sleepless nights for about 10 days, she had it easy... U can cold turkey cocaine, heroin is a bit harder, put these antidepressant poisons into your body for 6 months or more... Try cold turkey that, just try... Impossible
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    Just telling it how it is brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJonesCA View Post
    100% agree, my half educated goofball doctor put me on SSRI's for 2 years, then 2 years on SNRI's, after my own research and investigation I got off it all & told him he been poising me. Told him YouTube Paxil withdrawals on YouTube. This shit took me 3 months to ween myself off, had worse withdrawal symptoms than hard street drugs, a girl I dated briefly kicked her heroin habit, diarrhea, cold sweats and sleepless nights for about 10 days, she had it easy... U can cold turkey cocaine, heroin is a bit harder, put these antidepressant poisons into your body for 6 months or more... Try cold turkey that, just try... Impossible
    F*cked up aint it. Doctors get kick backs from the pharm. reps to push this garbage on people. This is fact. Ive had a few buddies that r reps, they give plane tickets, cruises, all kinds of shit. People need to educate themselves, the internet is this thing that has a ton of info on it. And its free!

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    To stay on topic, I was born in South Africa, moved to UK 10 years ago. Insight to how most live here is that their education and upbringing leaves many without comprehension of responsibility, "sangomas" (witch doctors) advise that raping a virgin will cure aids, which leads to babies being raped to death, 4 year olds... Corpses are stolen from hospital morgues to be used in "muti" (traditional tribal black magic medicine) the world in Africa is in no way comparable to America or Europe. My family is from Europe & I returned there, having lived here for 20 years, there are 2 perspectives to consider. I don't give a cent towards these 12+ families, but I also understand why they exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78

    F*cked up aint it. Doctors get kick backs from the pharm. reps to push this garbage on people. This is fact. Ive had a few buddies that r reps, they give plane tickets, cruises, all kinds of shit. People need to educate themselves, the internet is this thing that has a ton of info on it. And its free!
    I'm with u on all u said, the pharm companies bullshit the doctors by euphemisms like, don't call it "severe withdrawal & u will feel like killing urself" call it "discontinuation". Would a pharm like glaxodsmithcline chose to release a pill which cures cancer for a few £££ or prefer to treat ur cancer for 20+ years? Much more money in milking u for 20+ years. Profits, that's all that matters... Criminal organisations. Ok, rant over

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    Legal drug pushers. The destruction that scrips cause are off the charts

    But, grow and sell an organic product that actually benifits someone and you will surely go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Absolutely

    Background checks
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    If you take anti-depressants or anti-psychotics=no gun To take these drugs are a choice. If you take them you obviously have mental problems, and you should not own any firearms.
    i agree with that. and i have gotten the same slippery slop argument from other gun people.
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