To lose or loose! Get it right dammit! :)

[MuscleInk]

Morning and night for me!
I just tell her thats why she can't keep up with me!

I have pills to:
- sleep
- wake up
- relax/reduce stress
- regulate BP
- alleviate pain
- promote appetite
- regulate hormones
......and more.......

Like 405, I stick mostly to vitamins. Despite my supply, I avoid taking meds unless necessary. I don't like the idea of taking meds for everything. Only when absolutely necessary. Still, some would look in my pantry and think I'm running a side biz. Lol

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I haven't seen too many people complain of water retention although when it happens I see it more often in women. The more common syndromes are typically insomnia, fatigue, xerstomia (cotton mouth), diarrhea, abdominal cramping, headaches, nervousness. In all the times I have written a Rx I've only had two patients complain of extrapyramidal effects but it is generally very rare unless there is a hypersensitivity to the drug or its metabolizes.

Are you concerned about water retention or effects on appetite 405?

extrapyramidal effects?

mainly worried its gonna make me get fat/gain weight and/or impede my ability to lose fat or maintain low body fat. u know the reputation some meds have for this type thing.

and the fatigue thing or make me less motivated.. u know like doped up and lazy.. and hungry yes..

[MuscleInk]

extrapyramidal effects?

mainly worried its gonna make me get fat/gain weight and/or impede my ability to lose fat or maintain low body fat. u know the reputation some meds have for this type thing.

and the fatigue thing or make me less motivated.. u know like doped up and lazy.. and hungry yes..

Many of the effects are dose dependent. What's your dose?

Extrapyramidal effects are usually movement related (difficult starting or stopping motor movements - e.g. Tremors/shaking). Very rare so no need to worry about it and they are often reversible by changing meds.

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10MG TWICE PER DAY (buspirone)

i think part of my concern is back when i was running hard i ended up in a detox center and manipulated my way to getting on a bunch of meds so i could stay f'd up while i was in there. well i continued the meds when i got out and it was about this time my wife said my "body changed".. prior i was able to get fairly lean and hold a decent physique and looking back now i think maybe all those meds couldve contributed to why im now on TRT.

then i was on depacote
800mg seroquel per day
remiron (for sleep i think)
and two other things i cant remember..

basically i quit taking all that stuff cuz i couldnt function at work.. i was def experiencing extrapyramidal effects back then!

[MuscleInk]

10MG TWICE PER DAY (buspirone)

i think part of my concern is back when i was running hard i ended up in a detox center and manipulated my way to getting on a bunch of meds so i could stay f'd up while i was in there. well i continued the meds when i got out and it was about this time my wife said my "body changed".. prior i was able to get fairly lean and hold a decent physique and looking back now i think maybe all those meds couldve contributed to why im now on TRT.

then i was on depacote
800mg seroquel per day
remiron (for sleep i think)
and two other things i cant remember..

basically i quit taking all that stuff cuz i couldnt function at work.. i was def experiencing extrapyramidal effects back then!

Yes, those drugs in combination would have a number of effects including water retention and the exP sx you mentioned. The buspirone by itself shouldn't have any impact on your appetite or edema/water retention. More likely you'd experience fatigue, headaches, GI effects and some insomnia at that dose. These are the more common complaints I receive.

No known contraindications with gear. Avoid caber use though. It can increase serotonin effects.

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well shoot insomnia, headaches, fatigue sounds about as bad if not worse than just general anxiety which comes and goes. LOL..

how effective do u think itd be for just taking when needed? like say i have a day where anxiety is high, can i take one and feel better or is it something i have to take daily to prevent symptoms of anxiety from presenting themselves over the long term?

[MuscleInk]

well shoot insomnia, headaches, fatigue sounds about as bad if not worse than just general anxiety which comes and goes. LOL..

how effective do u think itd be for just taking when needed? like say i have a day where anxiety is high, can i take one and feel better or is it something i have to take daily to prevent symptoms of anxiety from presenting themselves over the long term?

I have prescribed it both ways. In the majority of cases, pts with GAD are rx daily tx. Buspirone has a short half life (under 4 hrs as I recall). For nonGAD disorders, I prescribe SSRIs. You could reduce your dose daily or take the 10mg as needed but the "episodic dosing" seems to be less effective in suppressing anxiety.

Knowing only a limited amount of your hx, try the occasional dosing. If you feel it's less effective, a smaller daily dose might help.

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I have prescribed it both ways. In the majority of cases, pts with GAD are rx daily tx. Buspirone has a short half life (under 4 hrs as I recall). For nonGAD disorders, I prescribe SSRIs. You could reduce your dose daily or take the 10mg as needed but the "episodic dosing" seems to be less effective in suppressing anxiety.

Knowing only a limited amount of your hx, try the occasional dosing. If you feel it's less effective, a smaller daily dose might help.

i have no idea what that means! LOL.. something about taking it daily if i have whatever those letters mean.. LOL..

so 10mg twice per day is a highish (i know thats not a word ) dose for first starting?

[MuscleInk]

i have no idea what that means! LOL.. something about taking it daily if i have whatever those letters mean.. LOL..

so 10mg twice per day is a highish (i know thats not a word ) dose for first starting?

Lol.....sorry....I got carried away with the acronyms (too lazy to type).

GAD = generalized anxiety disorder (essentially any anxiety that can't be classified into other categories: post traumatic stress, panic disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, etc.). GAD is the "catch all" for what most people call "anxiety" on a day to day basis. I start pts @ 5-7.5mg daily and increase/adjust until the patient achieves the desired therapeutic outcome. Max dose daily is 60mg/d so you're well below that.

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So panic disorder or ocd would be a non gad and need an ssri?

It seems weird that a pill would mAke me not care about things i could be ocd about.

I also find it interesting i have potential signs of gad, panic disorder, and ocd. Whats even weirder is these symptoms seem to have manifested themselves out of thin air..

[MuscleInk]

So panic disorder or ocd would be a non gad and need an ssri?

It seems weird that a pill would mAke me not care about things i could be ocd about.

I also find it interesting i have potential signs of gad, panic disorder, and ocd. Whats even weirder is these symptoms seem to have manifested themselves out of thin air..

Sounds like you should book some time on my couch, lol. Have you been properly diagnosed? Was the buspirone prescribed by an internist of family practitioner?

Buspirone is common for GAD. SSRIs are also prescribed for GAD (especially in the US) but often reserved for the other anxiety disorders I mentioned. SSRIs are a similar to a braid spectrum antibiotic in a sense that it treats serotonin related disorders in general and is this effective for anxiety and depression disorders. SSRIs are preferred in many instances because they have a weaker affinity for norepinephrine and dopamine transport systems.