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    Police Officer (and former marine) slaps U.S. Soldier

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    lol marine cop owned him

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    The soldier should know better.

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    assault and battery on the police officers part... time for that soldier to get paid..
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    They tell them kids when they join the Army.NEVER EVER FUK WITH THE MARINES!!! And I dont see him getting paid.He got in the officers face and he showed disrespect.I never let someone get close with something like that.But typical Army bitch talking smack.Then ends up on his back like a bitch moaning.That should be good for recuiting Ahh the good ole dayz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    The soldier should know better.
    Lol don't even start with that stupid bs. There's crappy marines and soldiers, he was probably in the national guard lol

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    I don't care what branch he was in or if he was active, reserve or guard...he is a punk and got handled. This is how it should be!!!!!

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    You guys are crazy. That kid was 150 pounds. Show some ****ing restraint. Sounds like two assholes not one. Then this guy is throwing salt on the wounds when he is down. Like what he did is something to gloat about.....lol

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    Thats bullshit,

    The guy was being a dick but was not a threat to the cop in any way.

    Its on film the guy has every right to sue. If it was in reverse and the guy hit the cop for words exchanged what do you all think he be charged for? The cop was being a prick because he knew that this is the way law enforcement works in the US. The cop knew he could get away with it. The cop lied on his report and stated he swept the guys feet and used his open palm on his chest. The video clearly shows otherwise.

    The guy should of immediately asked for the cops shift supervisor and filed a report on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    They tell them kids when they join the Army.NEVER EVER FUK WITH THE MARINES!!! And I dont see him getting paid.He got in the officers face and he showed disrespect.I never let someone get close with something like that.But typical Army bitch talking smack.Then ends up on his back like a bitch moaning.That should be good for recuiting Ahh the good ole dayz
    Lol they don't tell you this. What they do tell you is not to leave from basic training and act like your a badass because this is what will happen.
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    Here is a better link... Long story short the kid cries and the cop is a rapper http://youtu.be/cpNZ22z7B7w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2 View Post
    Thats bullshit,

    The guy was being a dick but was not a threat to the cop in any way.

    Its on film the guy has every right to sue. If it was in reverse and the guy hit the cop for words exchanged what do you all think he be charged for? The cop was being a prick because he knew that this is the way law enforcement works in the US. The cop knew he could get away with it. The cop lied on his report and stated he swept the guys feet and used his open palm on his chest. The video clearly shows otherwise.

    The guy should of immediately asked for the cops shift supervisor and filed a report on the spot.
    WHAT? Sorry I was too busy looking at ur avatar

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    Both total assholes

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    wow that kid is a head case. Makes the cop look even more pathetic

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    This man was a threat. He claimed 'US soldier' like a gangsta and then did a thug chicken dance in the cops face. That is a direct threat. The cop handled it professionally. The man was taken out of a dangerous posture and slapped back to reality without being injured. He's a soldier. That little slap didn't hurt anything but his pride. The cop established who is in control. It's called command presence and this kid seemed confused as to who was in command. A cop does not know the people they come on contact with nor what they might be armed with. I have no problem with the way he handled this. I would expect the same treatment if I did this to a cop. He's lucky he didn't get arrested. Assault does not require contact. Before flaming me, ask yourself if you have ever been a cop or a soldier. If the answer is no, you have no basis for an opinion on this. This 'kid' was acting like a fool and a disgrace to self respecting US Military personnel. Discipline and restraint are cornerstones. This kid had neither at that moment. They came back though after he got reminded by someone possessing those qualities.
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    Even though it was nice to see that punk put into place, the cop should have been profesiional and diffused the situation, the cop stepped into the punks personal space trying to intimidate him, then he assaulted the kid, cop needs to be fired and do a little time, these types of cops are a cancer too good cops, We keep letting them get away with what ever they want, then u may be nexy for a beat down, the cop should have been there to help instead of beating people up.
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    We can't see the cop with the camera, which is who smacked the boy. I didn't notice the camera going towards him before he got into the cops face. Maybe I missed something but I have had the pleasure of being a police officer. It is easy to call what should have been done from a couch in a living room. Not so easy when youre the one on the scene. Mistakes certainly get made and there are bad cops. Sure. I don't think this was handled poorly. I realize that position won't be popular. Its just my opinion. I'm not running for office no worries!

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    We live in a world now where we expect the police force to:

    a) never lift a finger in a threatening situation
    b) should be able to deal with a threatening situation using pacifying means.

    The kid was dumb for demanding respect cause he's a U.S. soldier and really should not be sizing up to a cop. A lot of people think the cop was over the top.....I say he dealt with what could have been a threatening situation using the minimum force necessary to subdue the guy.

    It looks harsh, but this kid coulda stubbed that smoke in his eye or anything.

    I do think it sucks they are now arresting him. They could have done all that and simply 'worked it out'. I think arresting him, after they took 45 minutes to get there, after he had people break into his house and threaten him, after taking him down, is poor policing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSwanson View Post
    WHAT? Sorry I was too busy looking at ur avatar
    Haha! seriously, those abs should be insured and protected by treaty.

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    Oh Wow, of course your taking the cops side if u really been one in the past. Java u dont know me man, so dont go saying im calling shots from the couch. I been in situations like that, a bunch of times bud, and yea i wanted to slap the sh-t out of them, The cop could have easily diffused the situation, this cop is dangerous and gung ho, the type that goes in with guns a blazing

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    Flagg:

    I didn't know they later decided to arrest him. I think that's a cya move made by the brass in case there's a lawsuit. Hard to show force is justified if an arrest isn't made. I agree with everything you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joebailey1271 View Post
    Oh Wow, of course your taking the cops side if u really been one in the past. Java u dont know me man, so dont go saying im calling shots from the couch. I been in situations like that, a bunch of times bud, and yea i wanted to slap the sh-t out of them, The cop could have easily diffused the situation, this cop is dangerous and gung ho, the type that goes in with guns a blazing
    Cop out. Saying 'of course, you were a cop so you'll side with the cop'. Careful. Your maturity level is showing.
    Do YOU know the man? I'll just agree that we disagree. I also missed the part where I mentioned you at all. I didn't say YOU were calling shots from somewhere. It wasn't directed at anyone except those who have not walked in the shoes off either a police officer or a soldier. If that's you, I disregard your opinion on the matter. I don't give my opinion of how well a building is constructed because I'm not an architect or contractor. Not qualified. That's all I meant.
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    Maturity level, just like the cop, he stooped the the kids level. All im saying is if u let these hot heads running aroung beating up people, then it will eventually escalate to something worse, allways does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    Flagg:

    I didn't know they later decided to arrest him. I think that's a cya move made by the brass in case there's a lawsuit. Hard to show force is justified if an arrest isn't made. I agree with everything you said.
    I dont know that they arrested him, but if you watch to the end, they stick him in handcuffs.

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    By the way...A, it's FORMER Marine...not ex Marine

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    Looks like two people with attitudes and the bigger one took control! Everybody bitches about the cops being to rough and police brutality that is bunch of crap! Those men and women are risking their lives everyday for the public.If you are going to act like an a$$hole you are going to get treated like one. Whenever someone gets put in their place the first thing that comes out of their mouth is lawsuit. Act like a grown adult and you won't have these types of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joebailey1271 View Post
    Oh Wow, of course your taking the cops side if u really been one in the past. Java u dont know me man, so dont go saying im calling shots from the couch. I been in situations like that, a bunch of times bud, and yea i wanted to slap the sh-t out of them, The cop could have easily diffused the situation, this cop is dangerous and gung ho, the type that goes in with guns a blazing
    And of coarse you're taking the thug's side, because "you've been in situations like that", but never been on the police officer's side of it have you..................... it's funny how everyone has an opinion as to how law enforcement should handle a matter, if any of you knew the statistics behind these police officer's actions, you may not be rooting for the "poor thug". For the record, this is a typical tactic used by people to effect harm on a police officer, the subject gets in the officer's face so the officer can't see the subject's hands & while the two are face to face & the officers vision is inhibited, the subject pulls a knife or firearm & the rest is history. This exact scenario has been played out in the exact manor I just described MANY MANY MANY times.

    Throughout the history of law enforcement there have been officers killed, beaten & maimed & quite often for nothing more than an outstanding misdemeanor warrant or a roach in the ashtray or a petty larceny & so on. And it usually boils down to the subject being pissed off that they have been caught, these days police officers have to extensively trained in rapid dominance, a commanding presence is absolutely vital in maintaining control, a well trained & confident officer can keep a small crowd under his thumb, & rightfully so. That being said, I would have taken the exact same action, I am Alpha you are Bravo & that IS NOT debatable, & if you think it is, I will dominate you, cuff you, & transport you to your new pad.
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    I agree there are indeed "bad cops" that abuse the badge, but this is not one of those cases.

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    The biggest mistake the cop made was the taunting! He could have taken action and shut the **** up! I heard an old cop tell a new cop once..."right em a ticket or chew their asses" NOT both!

    There is no reason to "gloat" after taking appropriate measures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    The biggest mistake the cop made was the taunting! He could have taken action and shut the **** up! I heard an old cop tell a new cop once..."right em a ticket or chew their asses" NOT both!

    There is no reason to "gloat" after taking appropriate measures!
    I agree, that whole "your talking to a Marine" BS was a bit over the top..................completely uncalled for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    The biggest mistake the cop made was the taunting! He could have taken action and shut the **** up! I heard an old cop tell a new cop once..."right em a ticket or chew their asses" NOT both!

    There is no reason to "gloat" after taking appropriate measures!
    As much as it hurts me I'm gonna have to agree with lunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    We can't see the cop with the camera, which is who smacked the boy. I didn't notice the camera going towards him before he got into the cops face. Maybe I missed something but I have had the pleasure of being a police officer. It is easy to call what should have been done from a couch in a living room. Not so easy when youre the one on the scene. Mistakes certainly get made and there are bad cops. Sure. I don't think this was handled poorly. I realize that position won't be popular. Its just my opinion. I'm not running for office no worries!
    If I called the cops because I was being assaulted and it took them 45mins to arrive. I think anyone would be pissed off.

    The video is the only evidence we have to go by and it clearly shows. The kid is upset because he just got beat up and venting on the cops about it and their lack if urgency in the matter.
    You can clearly see the cop step forward and hear the kid explain he never moved.
    Then see the kids head fly to the left.
    Insinuating the officer struck him from the right.
    This shit is cut and dry. While the kids might of had an attitude towards the officer ( given the situation I think anyone would have been upset.)
    The officer still STRUCK the kid because he wanted to show the kid who's the boss. And that's not the job of an officer.

    Since you were a cop you more bias then most. I don't care what cop deal with on a daily basis. That's the career they choose. It doesn't give them the right to push people around.

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    Just as i said to captain crunch put your blame towards the government not to the people who carry out said policy. Its not the police fault the guy had to wait 45minutes. They would have been on more important call outs. If you get in someones face especially a cops there going to respond to your threat. Its not like they tasered him or sprayed him anyway. And What was with the im us army bro? Haha the guy was a twig so you no he was like a clerk or transport something like that but trying to act tuff like he was in the 75th rangers.

    Police need to be shown respect its a job that i could never do. And with out police how would law and order be enforced??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1982 View Post
    The officer still STRUCK the kid because he wanted to show the kid who's the boss. And that's not the job of an officer.
    You're right, it is not the officer's job to hit people...............but it IS the officer's job to take action against physical threat to himself or anyone else............while that kid was face to face with the cop, he could have pulled a firearm & shot him. "Since you were NOT a cop you more bias then most", to the other end of the spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1982 View Post
    If I called the cops because I was being assaulted and it took them 45mins to arrive. I think anyone would be pissed off.

    The video is the only evidence we have to go by and it clearly shows. The kid is upset because he just got beat up and venting on the cops about it and their lack if urgency in the matter.
    You can clearly see the cop step forward and hear the kid explain he never moved.
    Then see the kids head fly to the left.
    Insinuating the officer struck him from the right.
    This shit is cut and dry. While the kids might of had an attitude towards the officer ( given the situation I think anyone would have been upset.)
    The officer still STRUCK the kid because he wanted to show the kid who's the boss. And that's not the job of an officer.

    Since you were a cop you more bias then most. I don't care what cop deal with on a daily basis. That's the career they choose. It doesn't give them the right to push people around.
    Like it is with soooo many of these videos...you dont get to see everything. The kid took an offensive posture! His fists could have been clenched anf furtive movement could have been shown!

    This isnt TV...the job can be life or death, ppl seem to forget that and focus on proffesionalism!

    We are always quick on the trigger to pass judgment but how many could or are willing to walk a mile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    You're right, it is not the officer's job to hit people...............but it IS the officer's job to take action against physical threat to himself or anyone else............while that kid was face to face with the cop, he could have pulled a firearm & shot him. "Since you were NOT a cop you more bias then most", to the other end of the spectrum.
    I complete understand the idea of protecting himself from physical threat.
    But that assumption get thrown out the window when the video clearly shows the OFFICER stepping into the other mans face
    If the officer was only protecting himself then he WOULDN'T step closer to the threat.
    If he was truly in physical danger he would have pulled his weapon albeit ,pepper spray, stun gun or pistol.
    Not step towards the threat exchange words and then strike him.

    I've never been a cop and nor have I ever had an altercations with one.
    I'm simply a level headed individual that can see right from wrong.
    And the video shows the man bad attitude towards the cops.( Not a good idea)
    And it also shows the officer misusing his power of authority.

    Stop and think about it for a second guys.
    Why would a cop that was only protecting himself from a threat in turn get Closer to the threat. When the officer has other means to diffuse the situation that are less violent.( Pepper spray)
    On a second note there were 2 officers there at no point in the video do we even see the other officer.
    I think its safe to say if there was a threat the other officer would've acted to subdue the angry man equally.
    Or maybe you guys think the other officer wasn't paying attention??

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    the kid was a punk and got what he deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    the kid was a punk and got what he deserved.
    X2.

    Log into www.odmp.org and you'll see how many cops get killed every single day in simple situations....that appear non-threatening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    The biggest mistake the cop made was the taunting! He could have taken action and shut the **** up! I heard an old cop tell a new cop once..."right em a ticket or chew their asses" NOT both!

    There is no reason to "gloat" after taking appropriate measures!

    Exactly and this is what makes it obvious it was not about defusing the situation and it was a pissing contest. Its the same as the thug smacking the cop and say what what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    Exactly and this is what makes it obvious it was not about defusing the situation and it was a pissing contest. Its the same as the thug smacking the cop and say what what.
    There was nothing in that video that makes ANYTHING obvious! Tell me what the kid was doing with his hands....tell me that the kids actions could not, with out any doubt, be taken as a threat.

    I hate these fukn video's! You see small pieces of the puzzle and then try to judge teh ENTIRE scene as if you are there at the moment! (Not directed at you Rwy) just a general statement!

    Were mistakes made...sure! Tacticaly things could have been handles other ways...was it an excessive use of force...NO! Excessive running off at the mouth...YEAH!

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