To anyone's knowledge?

**thehor** · 06-26-2013, 01:39 PM

Has anyone died from taking alot of aas here in this forum or was close?

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Touchy subject. I don't think anyone can confirm the cause of death was AAS related.

RIP to those we lost.

**Times Roman** · 06-26-2013, 02:15 PM

No one likes to speak of our brothers that have passed.

We have lost a few, and AAS may have been a contributing factor, or maybe not. It is hard to tell.

**DOSA** · 06-26-2013, 02:16 PM

well said gentlemen....

**thehor** · 06-26-2013, 03:23 PM

Yea. People are like freaking me out. I am a couple days away from starting my cycle and everyone that I know thats a Rn doesnt want to inject me because they say I can die ect, only one is willing too and on top of that I just got my hcg and I noticed with that its 4 injections a week total plus the armidex inst taht alot of meds all together?

**gixxerboy1** · 06-26-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by thehor

Yea. People are like freaking me out. I am a couple days away from starting my cycle and everyone that I know thats a Rn doesnt want to inject me because they say I can die ect, only one is willing too and on top of that I just got my hcg and I noticed with that its 4 injections a week total plus the armidex inst taht alot of meds all together?

first inject yourself, dont rely on someone else.
hcg isnt 4 injections a week
also you didnt mention pct drugs
but depends on what you mean lot of drugs. Yes its a few different types, but stuff is also dose related.
Death wouldnt be a concern from a basic cycle. If your friend thats an RN said that she is an idiot

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by thehor

Yea. People are like freaking me out. I am a couple days away from starting my cycle and everyone that I know thats a Rn doesnt want to inject me because they say I can die ect, only one is willing too and on top of that I just got my hcg and I noticed with that its 4 injections a week total plus the armidex inst taht alot of meds all together?

Unfortunately it sounds like they are very ignorant. Are there risks? Yes, of course. Are you likely to die? Well, we all die eventually!!! Are steroids likely to be the cause of death? We can't say absolutely not, but if handled safely and responsibly, likely not.

**thehor** · 06-26-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

first inject yourself, dont rely on someone else.
hcg isnt 4 injections a week
also you didnt mention pct drugs
but depends on what you mean lot of drugs. Yes its a few different types, but stuff is also dose related.
Death wouldnt be a concern from a basic cycle. If your friend thats an RN said that she is an idiot

Hmm 2 test shots a week plus 2 hgh a week I'm pretty sure that = 4 ahora a week. Why would I post my pct since that like the relief part of the cycle. Bombs Clomid if you really want to know what I am using.

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by thehor

Hmm 2 test shots a week plus 2 hgh a week I'm pretty sure that = 4 ahora a week. Why would I post my pct since that like the relief part of the cycle. Bombs Clomid if you really want to know what I am using.

Combine them if you're concerned.

**Hazard** · 06-26-2013, 04:47 PM

If you don't like needles..... Don't use aas.

At one point I was up to 18-20 shots a week with aas, hgh, slin...... 4 injections a week is a cake walk

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

If you don't like needles..... Don't use aas.

At one point I was up to 18-20 shots a week with aas, hgh, slin...... 4 injections a week is a cake walk

Injecting what? Neon green juice?

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Injecting what? Neon green juice?

Neon green!?' Is that what Marcus the monster injects!?! I want some!!!

**thehor** · 06-26-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Combine them if you're concerned.

Someone told me that its better to do test e one day and the next day hcg . SO can I just do both the same day right after another?

**Java Man** · 06-26-2013, 06:39 PM

I say youre over-thinking about some of this. Timing is not that important. Just keep it regular, every 3rd day or once per week, whatever your plan is... The timing isn't so critical that youre going to mess something up internally or throw your balance off if you do it in the morning one day and at 11pm the next time. With short esters missing an entire day can be a problem but not long esters. I'm not religious about my injection schedule personally.

I don't know anyone personally who has died as a direct result of steroids use, and I've had no luck finding any verifiable case of it. Contributing factor? Possibly if youre totally careless, stay on for years and don't get regular bp and bw checks. I get bw done every 6 mos, more often when on cycle. If lipids are off the charts for a short period of time it won't kill you right away. Heart/vascular disease is progressive. The damage is done over time. If you're careful and do your homework you should be fine. If you have an undiagnosed condition that becomes evident with the introduction of steroids, stop. Any foreign substance carries that risk though.

The real decision is on the choice to use or not. Once you choose, make sure you've prepared. You obviously care about your health. Get regular blood work to monitor kidney, liver, lipid profile, heart health. If anything gets out of control just abort and remedy the situation.

**kelkel** · 06-26-2013, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Unfortunately it sounds like they are very ignorant. Are there risks? Yes, of course. Are you likely to die? Well, we all die eventually!!! Are steroids likely to be the cause of death? We can't say absolutely not, but if handled safely and responsibly, likely not.

Oh just great. Next you'll tell me there's no Santa Clause and I'm gonna die if I don't do cardio and abs. Bah humbug.

**RaginCajun** · 06-26-2013, 07:33 PM

I'm already dead

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by thehor

Someone told me that its better to do test e one day and the next day hcg. SO can I just do both the same day right after another?

Well yeah, but you're scared. So take your pick.

**human project** · 06-26-2013, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Injecting what? Neon green juice?

That vet b complex is neon green...... "Half the reason why i bought it.....

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Oh just great. Next you'll tell me there's no Santa Clause and I'm gonna die if I don't do cardio and abs. Bah humbug.

Oh the Easter Bunny and Santa are fo reals. My 6 year old said so.

Cardio kills. Just say NO.

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

I'm already dead

He's a zombie! Kill him.....again!!!!!

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by human project

That vet b complex is neon green...... "Half the reason why i bought it.....

chlorophyll

**thehor** · 06-26-2013, 09:28 PM

I am going to suck it up, If I die ill hunt you guys in the after life lol......

**Lunk1** · 06-26-2013, 09:32 PM

Not one single death has been "directly" related to steroid use !

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Not one single death has been "directly" related to steroid use!

Not disputing....but cause and effect are not always possible to conclude.

**Lunk1** · 06-26-2013, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Not disputing....but cause and effect are not always possible to conclude.

Wanna know the cause for me having panic attacks ?

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Wanna know the cause for me having panic attacks ?

1. Marriage
2. Bills
3. Children
4. OCD

**Lunk1** · 06-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

1. Marriage
2. Bills
3. Children
4. OCD

Noooope!

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Noooope!

Pumpkin pie blizzards!!!!!

**Java Man** · 06-26-2013, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Oh the Easter Bunny and Santa are fo reals. My 6 year old said so.

Cardio kills. Just say NO.

When my kid was about that age I remember talking about Santa to her and she was looking at me like I was an idiot so I said 'what? You don't believe in Santa Clause?' She says 'not really' while shaking her head. Kids today!

**MuscleInk** · 06-26-2013, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Java Man

When my kid was about that age I remember talking about Santa to her and she was looking at me like I was an idiot so I said 'what? You don't believe in Santa Clause?' She says 'not really' while shaking her head. Kids today!

Just don't tell Kel. He'll be devastated......unless you distract him with carrot cake.

**thehor** · 06-27-2013, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Wanna know the cause for me having panic attacks ?

Lunk I had really bad pannic attacks like 4 years ago and was on xanax for like 3 years Oh god it was hell. I still have some anxiaty but havent got a pannic attack in years I also take xanax like when I really need it. I hope I dont have to run into taking 1 while on my cycle because I am not sure if mixing these drugs with a benzo is such a good Idea.

**Lunk1** · 06-27-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by thehor

Lunk I had really bad pannic attacks like 4 years ago and was on xanax for like 3 years Oh god it was hell. I still have some anxiaty but havent got a pannic attack in years I also take xanax like when I really need it. I hope I dont have to run into taking 1 while on my cycle because I am not sure if mixing these drugs with a benzo is such a good Idea.

Thanks man...I don't really have panic attacks. I was just busting Inks chops about something else.

**thehor** · 06-27-2013, 04:27 PM

Oh haha.

**Java Man** · 06-28-2013, 03:01 AM

Benzos don't have contraindications with AAS that I'm aware of. I was taking Ativan for sleep on a cycle once. Nothing. I'm not basing that statement only on my singular experience, I just like to throw it in if I have any personal experience with something. I've never read of it either. Might prevent "roid rage "! j/k. No such thing.

**MuscleInk** · 06-28-2013, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by Java Man

Benzos don't have contraindications with AAS that I'm aware of. I was taking Ativan for sleep on a cycle once. Nothing. I'm not basing that statement only on my singular experience, I just like to throw it in if I have any personal experience with something. I've never read of it either. Might prevent "roid rage"! j/k. No such thing.

Generally not an immediate concern although additive effects are a potential concern for benzodiazepines when taken with pramipexole or tamoxifen as they may result in psychomotor disturbances.