Once you taste AAS, you can't ever stop!

**MuttonChop** · 07-14-2013, 07:45 PM

Talk about not being able to come up with a proper thread title. Coming back after a long break...so hi everyone.

Did a tren cycle a few months ago that made me go to a very dark place. Swore off AAS, but then I got so much ASS in the past few months...with the only difference being my new demi-god body, that I have come back for more.

After having done a few cycles, I think I can come up with four great lessons I have learnt and want to share with you all as my first post after my break.

1) Priorities change very fast...any illogical decisions undertaken now for your current temporary goals is equal to punishing your future self who might have different goals in life.

2) Test is king and is the only thing an 'average' person will ever need. If anything, I would recommend adding DBol @ 20mg ED if using a long ester as a kickstart, but the extra gains you make over the first weeks will be lost and gained so many times in your life that it wont matter after a while.

3) No one cares about your great body. You might imagine that getting that killer body will make people respect you more...it will, but to such a small extent that it won't matter much. What WILL make a huge difference is the new increased self-confidence that you will find in yourself...this will change things in your life more directly than your body ever will.

4) 10+ week cycles are waaaay too long. Stick with 8 week cycles and repeat them for more number of cycles in a year. This is more for your mind than your body. Pushing yourself hard for 10+ weeks takes a lot more outta your mental tank of stamina than you think.

I am happy to be back. Looking forward to interacting with the community again.

Mutton.

**--->>405<<---** · 07-14-2013, 07:49 PM

Welcome back

Now about this "very dark place" ??

**crazy mike** · 07-14-2013, 09:12 PM

All I got to say is hang in there. I hear some confusion inside still. But that's my take. Be cool and take it slow. Good luck. ...crazy mike

**Java Man** · 07-14-2013, 09:31 PM

WB. I agree with all of your points except #4. I wouldn't run deca for 8 weeks for instance. It doesn't even kick in fully until then. Too generalized of a statement IMO. everyone is different, too. 12 weeks for test is my sweet spot. That's C or E though. A would probably be shorter.

**austinite** · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

I'll personally never, ever run a cycle past 6 weeks anymore.

**Lunk1** · 07-14-2013, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I'll personally never, ever run a cycle past 6 weeks anymore.

If you were not on TRT would you feel the same way?

**austinite** · 07-14-2013, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

If you were not on TRT would you feel the same way?

yes.

**Lunk1** · 07-14-2013, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

yes.

I know I have decided mine will be short and sweet from now on,

**lstbred** · 07-14-2013, 10:25 PM

Good to have you back. After just one cycle I understand how things can change. I am totally shocked that a couple have decided to do several short runs. Whats the reasoning/thought process behind this. I know this is off topic, you could pm if it was easier. Thanks. ouichef

**Lunk1** · 07-14-2013, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by lstbred

Good to have you back. After just one cycle I understand how things can change. I am totally shocked that a couple have decided to do several short runs. Whats the reasoning/thought process behind this. I know this is off topic, you could pm if it was easier. Thanks. ouichef

For me it's an easy explanation. I'm still running from TRT (for now) so it makes recovery easier and I feel my gains vs sides ratio start to flip at around 6 weeks.

**Dark_Ansem** · 07-15-2013, 10:56 AM

an excellent post. points 3 and 4 are just too good.

**--->>405<<---** · 07-15-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

I'll personally never, ever run a cycle past 6 weeks anymore.

why??

**austinite** · 07-15-2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

why??

Just takes its toll on me. Not like it used to be. I'd rather be in and out quick and I can manage my blood levels easier.

**--->>405<<---** · 07-15-2013, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Just takes its toll on me. Not like it used to be. I'd rather be in and out quick and I can manage my blood levels easier.

how bout a fellow trt'er like me who is planning cycle #1??

**austinite** · 07-15-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

how bout a fellow trt'er like me who is planning cycle #1??

Cycle 1 of 1000? haha.

Cycle away man. First cycles really have more to do with your preference regarding injection frequency. I ran long cycles forever and they were fine. Now a days I look forward to being off more than on.

**BlueWaffle21** · 07-15-2013, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Java Man

WB. I agree with all of your points except #4. I wouldn't run deca for 8 weeks for instance. It doesn't even kick in fully until then. Too generalized of a statement IMO. everyone is different, too. 12 weeks for test is my sweet spot. That's C or E though. A would probably be shorter.

NPP for 8 weeks with Prop.