Chemical Muscle

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 04:43 PM

Has anyone ordered from cm before?

**ghettoboyd** · 12-04-2013, 04:45 PM

oh shit man where have you been...that ugl is crap bro, there have been a few members that have reported infections caused by there gear....dirty shit...

**bass** · 12-04-2013, 04:47 PM

Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

oh shit man where have you been...that ugl is crap bro, there have been a few members that have reported infections caused by there gear....dirty shit...

I been gone... I ordered on Tuesday and he hasn't emailed me back so I'm worried. It might be them not injecting right but who knows now I'm worried as shit

**bass** · 12-04-2013, 05:20 PM

no dude, read the link I posted!

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by bass

no dude, read the link I posted!

It's too late... I ordered Tuesday

**RaginCajun** · 12-04-2013, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Negative Knight

It's too late... I ordered Tuesday

Your bad for not doing your homework first

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

Your bad for not doing your homework first

I should of checked recently.. Last I heard CM was awesome

**ghettoboyd** · 12-04-2013, 05:29 PM

read the dam link bro, staph infections are no joke....has nothing to do with injection technique...

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

read the dam link bro, staph infections are no joke....has nothing to do with injection technique...

I know.. At this point I'm going to assume he completely just ****ed me over and isn't going to even send me an FU letter

**Fcastle357** · 12-04-2013, 05:35 PM

1 wrong section

2 just drop it

**AlphaMike** · 12-04-2013, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Negative Knight

I know.. At this point I'm going to assume he completely just ****ed me over and isn't going to even send me an FU letter

Hope you haven't paid already

**bass** · 12-04-2013, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Negative Knight

It's too late... I ordered Tuesday

too late wasting money but not too late not to get sick or worse! just trash it. see if you can dispute the charge with the credit card company. jus tell them you just found out they are illegal company and you don't trust them, or something.

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by bass

too late wasting money but not too late not to get sick or worse! just trash it. see if you can dispute the charge with the credit card company. jus tell them you just found out they are illegal company and you don't trust them, or something.

It's with vanilla reload cards or reloadit packs so he's got 315$ of my money

**Igifuno** · 12-04-2013, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Negative Knight

It's with vanilla reload cards or reloadit packs so he's got 315$ of my money

Small price to pay dude.

Don't sell it either.. Trash it.

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

Small price to pay dude. Don't sell it either.. Trash it.

IF I get it.. Wish I woulda looked more recently

**bass** · 12-04-2013, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Negative Knight

It's with vanilla reload cards or reloadit packs so he's got 315$ of my money

damn that sucks! oh well.

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by bass

damn that sucks! oh well.

A lesson well learned lol..

**songdog** · 12-04-2013, 06:16 PM

Wow! trash it bro.

**PistolPete33** · 12-04-2013, 07:34 PM

Your best bet is that they take your money and run and don't send you anything. If you inject that shit you're asking for trouble.

**Negative Knight** · 12-04-2013, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

Wow! trash it bro.

Hey the positive thing is that I learned a lesson lol. I try to hard to find a silver lining

**Honkey_Kong** · 12-05-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by bass

too late wasting money but not too late not to get sick or worse! just trash it. see if you can dispute the charge with the credit card company. jus tell them you just found out they are illegal company and you don't trust them, or something.

Technically, he can do what is called a "charge-back." If you don't actually sign a slip for a credit card transaction, the transaction didn't occur. It's one of the risks phone/online companies assume by accepting credit payments. Of course, if you let it slide for too many days, they wont let you do it.

OP, if they mail you that junk, throw it out and take whatever happens as a lesson learned.

**marcus300** · 12-05-2013, 09:29 AM

I'd rather inject camel piss than use CM.

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-05-2013, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I'd rather inject camel piss than use CM.

If you use CM you very well might be!!!

**Honkey_Kong** · 12-05-2013, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

If you use CM you very well might be!!!

That is part of their "proprietary blend."

**austinite** · 12-05-2013, 12:02 PM

Chemical Poison.

**Lunk1** · 12-05-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I'd rather inject camel piss than use CM.

I can hear everyone now, "I'm going to inject camel piss cause that's how Marcus got so big" lol.

**marcus300** · 12-05-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I can hear everyone now, "I'm going to inject camel piss cause that's how Marcus got so big" lol.

Then the question is how do you go about getting camel piss?

**Lunk1** · 12-05-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Then the question is how do you go about getting camel piss?

No sourcing...please read the rules!

**Negative Knight** · 12-05-2013, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

No sourcing...please read the rules!

hahahaha

AD · 12-05-2013, 08:05 PM

so CM stands for Camel Manure?

**austinite** · 12-05-2013, 09:28 PM

They will fly you in to test their products....

**--->>405<<---** · 12-05-2013, 09:36 PM

master

**Negative Knight** · 12-05-2013, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

They will fly you in to test their products....

It's only 3 stars so I would decline..

**brazuka** · 12-06-2013, 02:34 AM

Give it a few days mate… I have been wanting to order some EQ and got in contact with him last week. Sent him some more messages recently but he hasn't replied back for a couple of days now. He is very busy and it should be obvious why. His lab name and reputation has been tarnished by these forums (I don't believe in the stories and claims made by these forums regarding chemical muscle not even for a second). I have been using chemical muscle for months now with no problems and will continue to do so. If he was to take your money and run he would have given me the green light to order and done the same to me by now. Give it a few days.

**Honkey_Kong** · 12-06-2013, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by brazuka

Give it a few days mate… I have been wanting to order some EQ and got in contact with him last week. Sent him some more messages recently but he hasn't replied back for a couple of days now. He is very busy and it should be obvious why. His lab name and reputation has been tarnished by these forums (I don't believe in the stories and claims made by these forums regarding chemical muscle not even for a second). I have been using chemical muscle for months now with no problems and will continue to do so. If he was to take your money and run he would have given me the green light to order and done the same to me by now. Give it a few days.

Uhhh yeah. Except several guys had infections from this stuff and one of them nearly died from the infection. And it wasn't that the owner accidently put out a batch of bad gear. He was told about this and STILL continued to sell the bad stuff. Call me crazy, but when a bunch of guys have horror stories like this, I tend to believe them over the owner. Even if it turned out that these guys were lying, it's still better the stay on the side of caution.

**brazuka** · 12-06-2013, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Uhhh yeah. Except several guys had infections from this stuff and one of them nearly died from the infection. And it wasn't that the owner accidently put out a batch of bad gear. He was told about this and STILL continued to sell the bad stuff. Call me crazy, but when a bunch of guys have horror stories like this, I tend to believe them over the owner. Even if it turned out that these guys were lying, it's still better the stay on the side of caution.

Really because only one guy came out and that was after "supposedly" many guys were getting infections from it… Wouldn't you think if they actually got infected they would post on the open boards and not send a Private Message to a vet here? Especially since supposedly there was more than one person who got infected. I didn't see anybody come out. Not a single person. What I saw was somebody with high status here giving them a bad rep and when confronted by multiple members for any small amount of proof because we have all been using CM with no problems guess what there was absolutely none.

Suddenly a month later… wow somebody comes out with a story and everybody jumps on it. In my eyes it was all planned out the whole thing was so sketchy from the start. If you witnessed everything happen through the months of this whole thing you would see how sketchy this whole thing turned out. Guess what I have been using them for months my friends have been using them and nobody has reported anything bad about it. I will continue to use them and I was letting Negative Knight know what is going on. I am willing to bet he will get his reply and what he purchased. Please every single person who has chemical muscle products and is not going to use them or trash them if the vial is unopened SEND THEM MY WAY as I will GLADLY use them all. This whole thing is a damn shame. The shadiness has been going on for 2 months now and thread after thread getting deleted. But go on keep blindly believing what you are told on here I don't care. I was around the shadiness from the start and and put my own pieces of the puzzle together. Just letting the OP know not to worry as I haven't received replies yet either on an order I'd like to make. Give him time

**ghettoboyd** · 12-06-2013, 04:52 AM

holy fuk dude do you really think this is a conspiracy?...seriously?...we are just trying to keep members safe...maybe you got lucky and got some decent gear but anyone that buys aas through a public website where anyone can buy should realize that there are risks because they are so busy and need to pump out the product that sometimes quality takes a back seat so to speak...but this being a conspiracy is bunk bro there is no competition here...this board is about aas education and its safe use so stop with this conspiracy crap...im glad you are happy with cm gear but don't go endorsing this stuff as if it isn't causing people problems...fyi the guy who posted a thread denouncing cm defended them in an earlier post tooth and nail just as you are and guess what happened to him?...that right he almost died...no one cares if you keep using there gear just don't endorse it please...with all the ugl's out there why use this one?...

**brazuka** · 12-06-2013, 04:59 AM

My original post was to let the OP know to give erik time because it has been a couple of days that I haven't gotten a reply either. I do not go out of my way to endorse the lab I have nothing to gain from doing that. When I get jumped on for saying I use them then I give my reasons why. I haven't had a single issue my friends haven't had issues and after all the shadiness from the threads that got deleted so members are not able to see how ridiculous the claims were with no proof whatsoever, why would I stop using this ugl when I get great results great communication and have gotten my orders every single time? No way I'm going to take my chances with a new ugl when this one has always delivered and given me results I am happy with. For all I know I may never get my stuff from another ugl or it could be bunk gear why would I take the risk if everything right now has been smooth for months