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    $250,000 job — or — $100,000 self employment income?

    Would you rather work for yourself and make $100,000 — or — Work for a boss and make $250,000 ?
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    I've worked for myself many years ago for over 15yrs and was very successful but the stress and hours I had to cope with really took a big piece of me mentally. In the above question I'd 100% work for someone else and earn more money
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    I would work for another if the compensation was that much more. As long as it wasn't ran by a Gestapo type boss.

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    Thats a huge dif in salary. I would work for the man.

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    Being a business owner I can say that I would take the job.
    As a business owner there are many freedoms but most people do not realize the pressure and stress that comes with it.
    To be perfectly honest if the money was the same either way I would still take the job and have less stress.

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    Matters what life style you live or want to live. That is a very big margin. I will always work for someone else for the reasons said above.

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    Definitely the higher-paying job

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    I have told many of my friends that if you can't double your income owning your own business it isn't worth it.

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    250k without a doubt.

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    a lot questions arise from this.

    what makes you happy?

    what are the pros and cons of both? take the job with no growth potential? is there a corporate ladder to climb? run your own biz successfully and make the $250k in 5 years? crash and burn from trying to run your own biz? etc...............

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    Ill take the 250k

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I've worked for myself many years ago for over 15yrs and was very successful but the stress and hours I had to cope with really took a big piece of me mentally. In the above question I'd 100% work for someone else and earn more money
    ^^^^^ This 100%
    Unless you felt your business could grow into a multi million dollar business

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    Ive done both. Working for yourself is a pain in many ways. Estimated quarterly taxes, paying for your own benefits, setting up your own IRA ..its a lot more work than just the job. Id take the 250,000 UNLESS the 100,000 working for myself was my total passion and joy in life if I was doing that id work for myself for less than half the money of working for someone else even with all the headaches of self employment. Part of the reason being is if I was working for my passion, id very quickly be making WAY more than the 100k I started out making.

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    For that kind of money? That's a no brainer for me. Geez man ill never see that kind of money

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    Yup. That 100K will turn into 50K with taxes and insurance real quick.

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    I would definitely take the job with a boss if it includes $150,000 extra. As long as the job wasn't ludacris and the boss isn't a douche.

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    The one thing to remember is that the reason a job will pay $250,000 is that there is going to be a lot of stress and BS to put up with.

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    Depends on what the self employed job is. Money isn't everything. If it was something I could really enjoy and wasn't too stressful id work for myself. But typically much longer hours and more stress is involved with being self employed.

    An extra $150,000 to blow is a great way to forget about your shitty boss. That can finance all sorts of expensive hobbies. Plus we all know how much money means to women, and a woman is a great way to relax about a bad day at work. Id say id go with the $250,000 job.

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    Personally, I'd rather take the job that will give me the most personal fulfillment.

    Many years ago, when I worked at this casino in North Vegas, this old man who was a cook there told me that you only have so much time in this world and every second you spend doing something is a second you can't get back no matter how much money you get for it. And so all the money in the world isn't worth doing something that you don't like.

    And not all bosses are bad guys to work for.

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    I would work for myself for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Personally, I'd rather take the job that will give me the most personal fulfillment.

    Many years ago, when I worked at this casino in North Vegas, this old man who was a cook there told me that you only have so much time in this world and every second you spend doing something is a second you can't get back no matter how much money you get for it. And so all the money in the world isn't worth doing something that you don't like.

    And not all bosses are bad guys to work for.
    And so the saying you will never hear a dying man say he wishes he worked more or had more money...

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    I've owned multiple retail stores and made a lot of money doing it and I can tell you first hand that the stress isn't worth it. The best thing I ever did was sell the business. That being said, I'm about to open a new online outdoors store. lol Why would I do it If it's so bad? Like others have said it's my passion. I'm keeping it small and have no desire to ever grow it. I won't have any business partners to worry about, I'm not relying on it as a primary income, I don't have to worry about how I'm gonna make payroll during a dry spell, etc etc etc. Most importantly I don't have to worry about my success coming from the performance of other people. This will cause you to spend every waking hour making sure things are running smoothly and have no time for anything or anybody else.

    I encourage everyone to have a small part-time business doing what you love, but nothing on a larger scale. It's too exhausting!!!!

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    Completely dependent on the job. If the 250,000 was sucking dick all day and the 100,000 was being a professional beer taster/couch tester then obviously the 100.000 and vice versa lol I really can't decide based on the info given

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaz915 View Post
    Completely dependent on the job. If the 250,000 was sucking dick all day and the 100,000 was being a professional beer taster/couch tester then obviously the 100.000 and vice versa lol I really can't decide based on the info given

    That was a funny post. Still laughing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Would you rather work for yourself and make $100,000 — or — Work for a boss and make $250,000 ?
    you end up paying MORE taxes being self employed (you would also have to pay the employers share of social security taxes). and since no employer, your taxes effectively go up 8%

    I'd rather be an employee making the $250. it's a no brainer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt1nkt View Post
    I would definitely take the job with a boss if it includes $150,000 extra. As long as the job wasn't ludacris and the boss isn't a douche.
    So what if the job is a douche and the boss is Ludacris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    The one thing to remember is that the reason a job will pay $250,000 is that there is going to be a lot of stress and BS to put up with.
    Exactly, no one gets paid that must money ever if it was easy well celebreties, sports people etc maybe but to get that kinda money on either side of the fence is tough and never given out without some effort being put in

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I'd work for Haz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I'd work for Haz.
    Haz is hiring? Where do I send a resume?

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    $100k is not much money to raise a family on in florida area, ESPECIALLY if its a company - you would only take home a little over a $1,000 a week after pension, benefits, taxes, and union dues.....If I was single without kids, I'd take the $100k.....Otherwise, I'd go to work for someone for more $.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    I'd work for Haz.
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    Depends on job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    $100k is not much money to raise a family on in NY/NJ/Philly area, ESPECIALLY if its a state job - you would only take home a little over a $1,000 a week after pension, benefits, taxes, and union dues.....If I was single without kids, I'd take the $100k.....Otherwise, I'd go to work for someone for more $.
    How does that work? I'm thinking your math is off a bit. I make a little over $100k the last 3 years and my take home is over $1500 a week after pension, benefits and tax. I know you said a little over but $500 is more than a little I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    How does that work? I'm thinking your math is off a bit. I make a little over $100k the last 3 years and my take home is over $1500 a week after pension, benefits and tax. I know you said a little over but $500 is more than a little I think.
    27% in the ball park.
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    I've had business and worked nights weekends etc. Made a ton of money but had no free time.

    A decent job and you get all benefits. M-F 9-5. Weekends off. Lots of vacation. And you know paycheck will be there whether you do nothing or work your ass off.

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