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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK

    My kid know safety and respect. Here's a knife learn not to fall on it...
    And the same knowledge can be shared with children regarding guns and responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    18 years of university, 5 degrees. Needed something to do with my time. I studied 4 languages in school. A mind is a terrible thing to waste - unfortunate many do.
    I am glad you have found in all you're studies the time to spend on here discussing/defending something off the topic in the lounge of this forum. Hats off you are wasting you're mind right now even reading this. and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this. Night guys enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    And the same knowledge can be shared with children regarding guns and responsibility.
    LOL Good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK

    I am glad you have found in all you're studies the time to spend on here discussing/defending something off the topic in the lounge of this forum. Hats off you are wasting you're mind right now even reading this. and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this. Night guys enjoy.
    How is a discussion of opinions a waste of mind and intellect?!? Through discourse and reciprocal dialogue we learn and understand. I respect your
    position. Just because I don't agree does not make the conversation futile. One person is not right more than the other. I certainly don't teach my kids that their opinion is the only one that matters and to dismiss the alternate views of others. Is that the education you would impart on your children? Respect only your own personal view. Vehemently disregard the opinions of those who are in contrast?

    Come on Steve. No way guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    How is a discussion of opinions a waste of mind and intellect?!? Through discourse and reciprocal dialogue we learn and understand. I respect your
    position. Just because I don't agree does not make the conversation futile. One person is not right more than the other. I certainly don't teach my kids that their opinion is the only one that matters and to dismiss the alternate views of others. Is that the education you would impart on your children? Respect only your own personal view. Vehemently disregard the opinions of those who are in contrast?

    Come on Steve. No way guy.
    I dont agree with this statement.
    You can either agree with me or be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    I dont agree with this statement.
    You can either agree with me or be wrong.
    Let's just flip a quarter. Heads I'm right, tails you're wrong, everybody wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic

    Was it the culture change that intrigued you to want to Own? Im interested because aus is much like canada were no one really has guns
    I lived in the US for 9 years before my interest in guns developed. Went to a shooting range a few times and enjoyed the hobby. From there I started investing in guns.....lots and lots of GUNS!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Is it hard to get that license lunk?
    There is an application process and background check that needs to be completed with ATF. You normally need to show a need such as being in the firearms industry in some fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    How is a discussion of opinions a waste of mind and intellect?!? Through discourse and reciprocal dialogue we learn and understand. I respect your
    position. Just because I don't agree does not make the conversation futile. One person is not right more than the other. I certainly don't teach my kids that their opinion is the only one that matters and to dismiss the alternate views of others. Is that the education you would impart on your children? Respect only your own personal view. Vehemently disregard the opinions of those who are in contrast?

    Come on Steve. No way guy.
    Mate, what the hell does that mean. re type in basic language that wasn't taught in the 18 years of bum bum research of words that are not used in the common tongue of 99% of the people on the planet that are not up there own poo shoot.

    Some of the words are not even used in the right context
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    There is an application process and background check that needs to be completed with ATF. You normally need to show a need such as being in the firearms industry in some fashion.
    I just had a quick look 20grand for a m16 jeez!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK View Post
    Mate, what the hell does that mean. re type in basic language that wasn't taught in the 18 years of bum bum research of words that are not used in the common tongue of 99% of the people on the planet that are not up there own poo shoot.

    Some of the words are not even used in the right context
    Get out your thesaurus. MI is like the smartest member on site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Get out your thesaurus. MI is like the smartest member on site
    He's got you fooled too lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Get out your thesaurus. MI is like the smartest member on site
    LoL, You get out you're thesaurus. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    He's got you fooled too lol.
    There is fooled then words from the bum bum. Have to start carrying a gun on the forum.

    only in the lounge tho lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Pass a background and not have mental health issues. Yes.
    I agree! People kill people, not weapons. That right should never be questioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK

    Mate, what the hell does that mean. re type in basic language that wasn't taught in the 18 years of bum bum research of words that are not used in the common tongue of 99% of the people on the planet that are not up there own poo shoot.

    Some of the words are not even used in the right context
    I'm not even following you're dialectic. "Bum bum research. What the fvck does that mean Einstein?!?!

    I'm sorry your feeble mind does not comprehend English. I'll have my 7 year old draw you some stick figures. I'm sure you can handle pictures.

    I thought your were in bed anyway? Needed to have the last word? Ok, go ahead. If your ego needs it, you can have the last word (good grief I'm talking to a fvcking child).

    So much for an intellectual conversation on the original topic. Sorry OP, lets steer this back on track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic

    Get out your thesaurus. MI is like the smartest member on site
    Lol, thanks Euro. Intelligence is subjective. Plenty of members here know a lot more about other topics than I do. I've been fortunate to have the academic opportunities I have had. It never came easy. A lot of sacrifice and disciplined work. I'm grateful for the education but certainly would never call myself "the smartest".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    He's got you fooled too lol.
    It was a lot more peaceful here when you were on vacation! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    I'm not even following you're dialectic. "Bum bum research. What the fvck does that mean Einstein?!?!

    I'm sorry your feeble mind does not comprehend English. I'll have my 7 year old draw you some stick figures. I'm sure you can handle pictures.

    I thought your were in bed anyway? Needed to have the last word? Ok, go ahead. If your ego needs it, you can have the last word (good grief I'm talking to a fvcking child).

    So much for an intellectual conversation on the original topic. Sorry OP, lets steer this back on track.
    LoL nah mate my feeble mind does not understand chocolate starfish utter garbage, 7 year draw me some figures mr I am the smart thesaurus out of context make no sense to anyone else utter bumbum smell my finger toilet roll split in mid wipe... on track No people should not carry guns on the street. Most people are idiots. You yourself could carry a gun, I will bet you can not name 5 other people you would trust with a gun 100%, A person can be smart, Most are not an lack logic and sense and any sort of reason. what you think with all the banter aside. and i am in bed ipad man

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    Quote Originally Posted by noon View Post
    What was. The sit. And if you have to and r left no other option.so let it be
    If you have to is one thing. But what i meant by my post was i saw a potential bad situation and easily could have just left and went to another grocery store( situation happened in the parking lot) but i got out of my car instead. Because i was over confident. And i came very close to having to use deadly force againt 4 men infront of my daughter. My point is dont let yout confidence from carrying. Put you in situations you could have avoided .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK View Post
    LoL nah mate my feeble mind does not understand chocolate starfish utter garbage, 7 year draw me some figures mr I am the smart thesaurus out of context make no sense to anyone else utter bumbum smell my finger toilet roll split in mid wipe... on track No people should not carry guns on the street. Most people are idiots. You yourself could carry a gun, I will bet you can not name 5 other people you would trust with a gun 100%, A person can be smart, Most are not an lack logic and sense and any sort of reason. what you think with all the banter aside. and i am in bed ipad man
    Time to stop feeding the troll. He is starting to sound more and more like a sub 18yr old who has not reasonable argument so now he is resorting to gibberish.
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    I have my conceal carry permit, never carry on my person but will have one in my vehicle at times. Having this permit doesn't give a person the right to whip a gun out for any reason what so ever. I was taught never to draw that weapon unless you plan on killing someone. You better have a dam good reason for using it because a jury is going to decide if you go to prison or not. At 6'1" 260lbs a jury is less likely to believe I need a gun to protect myself than my 5'4" 120 lbs wife. It better be worth it if you use that gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Illegal in the U.S. unless you have a class 3 Federal License.
    I have a bump fire frame for my AR. It's just for fun when were at the range .look int it.
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    My gun & is the 1st thing I put on & the last thing I take off while at work every day. We have open carry in MI . Myself & many others carry openly up & down the street into Subway ,where ever as long as they don't have a sign up. As long as you are licensed there are no issues with carrying a firearm in any way.
    I would rather have & had many customers come into my office open carrying. The guys who don't want you to see their weapon I'm more worried about.
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    1.Ok guns are safe when in responsible hands.
    2.They keep tha bad guys guessing . Far less likely to break in if there is a weapon on the other side.
    3.steve uk is under educated on this matter and presumably many others. And that's ok. We need some one to sweep the floors.
    4. Carrying is my right it may help some one who does not some day.
    5. Steve uk is a troll.
    A bump fire stock will essentially turn your AR or Ak into an auto just for the range . No license needed.
    6.It makes me happy to see like minded men and women voice there opinion.
    7. The Steve uk's of the world should be listened to one time and then patted on the head for the effort. Maybe given candy .they seem to like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noon View Post
    1.Ok guns are safe when in responsible hands.
    2.They keep tha bad guys guessing . Far less likely to break in if there is a weapon on the other side.
    3.steve uk is under educated on this matter and presumably many others. And that's ok. We need some one to sweep the floors.
    4. Carrying is my right it may help some one who does not some day.
    5. Steve uk is a troll.
    A bump fire stock will essentially turn your AR or Ak into an auto just for the range . No license needed.
    6.It makes me happy to see like minded men and women voice there opinion.
    7. The Steve uk's of the world should be listened to one time and then patted on the head for the effort. Maybe given candy .they seem to like that.
    Really very funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK View Post
    LoL nah mate my feeble mind does not understand chocolate starfish utter garbage, 7 year draw me some figures mr I am the smart thesaurus out of context make no sense to anyone else utter bumbum smell my finger toilet roll split in mid wipe... on track No people should not carry guns on the street. Most people are idiots. You yourself could carry a gun, I will bet you can not name 5 other people you would trust with a gun 100%, A person can be smart, Most are not an lack logic and sense and any sort of reason. what you think with all the banter aside. and i am in bed ipad man

    i can name more than 5 people very quickly.

    i think you have some other issues going on.

    we are all here to help, what is wrong with you? what is really bothering you?

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    I'm kinda with Bedford. I'm not a "fan" of concealed carry but I'm all for open carry.

    Personal experience I guess I had my CLP and I live in a state where open carry is legal. I also ride a motorcycle. And from time to time carrying concealed I would have a jack-hole mess with me on my bike. I'll tel you what people are much more respectful when you're open carrying. I think 80% of people walking around with a pistol on their hip and many of the crimes you hear about would be gone. An armed society is a polite society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evander87
    I'm kinda with Bedford. I'm not a "fan" of concealed carry but I'm all for open carry.

    Personal experience I guess I had my CLP and I live in a state where open carry is legal. I also ride a motorcycle. And from time to time carrying concealed I would have a jack-hole mess with me on my bike. I'll tel you what people are much more respectful when you're open carrying. I think 80% of people walking around with a pistol on their hip and many of the crimes you hear about would be gone. An armed society is a polite society.
    Damn! I'd be happy with just concealed carry in my suck ass state!!!!

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    Has anyone here had or have seen people having a respectable one on one punch up while carrying? This is my biggest worry with guns, People losing there cool and turning a minor scrap into a murder.
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    The state I live in WILL NOT let me carry a gun for my profession. Meanwhile I'm responsible for dealing with murderers and drug dealers on the loose.

    A week ago I was in a complex where a cache of ak47s were recovered from an apartment. They won't even allow me to use a tazer..... The most I can carry is pepper spray but the bad guys can carry anything they want.

    It's a fvcked up system
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    I have been to dozens of countries and never feel strange not having a gun; because I know many others dont have them either. When you grow having them around it is like second nature. Imagnine if steak knives were illegal everywhere else, but you have them in your kitchen drawer. No biggie, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic
    Has anyone here had or have seen people having a respectable one on one punch up while carrying? This is my biggest worry with guns, People losing there cool and turning a minor scrap into a murder.
    That's what I was referring to earlier. If you're the one carrying a gun and you draw your weapon, the situation could escalate. The other person my have a weapon, may try to disarm you, or in many cases, retreat - but you won't know until you've drawn your gun.

    As was stated earlier by another member, if you draw your weapon and/or discharge it, many states in the US have strict laws about self defense and in a jury of your peers, there must be no reasonable doubt that lethal force was necessary.

    In California, the law allows me to defend my home/property or the life of another with lethal force IF the threat of bodily injury exists:

    "It is lawful for a person being assaulted to defend themself from attack if he or she has reasonable grounds for believing, and does in fact believe, that he or she will suffer bodily injury. In doing so, he or she may use such force, up to deadly force, as a reasonable person in the same or similar circumstances would believe necessary to prevent great bodily injury or death .

    An assault with fists does not justify use of a deadly weapon in self-defense unless the person being assaulted believes, and a reasonable person in the same or similar circumstances would also believe, that the assault is likely to inflict great bodily injury.

    It is lawful for a person who has grounds for believing, and does in fact believe, that great bodily injury is about to be inflicted upon another to protect the victim from attack . In so doing, the person may use such force as reasonably necessary to prevent the injury . Deadly force is only considered reasonable to prevent great bodily injury or death."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK View Post
    Guns on the night stand and a gun under the bed around kids is not dangerous? Seriously? Seriously? really? What?
    You need to teach them young how to handle them with respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noon View Post
    1.Ok guns are safe when in responsible hands.
    2.They keep tha bad guys guessing . Far less likely to break in if there is a weapon on the other side.
    3.steve uk is under educated on this matter and presumably many others. And that's ok. We need some one to sweep the floors.
    4. Carrying is my right it may help some one who does not some day.
    5. Steve uk is a troll.
    A bump fire stock will essentially turn your AR or Ak into an auto just for the range . No license needed.
    6.It makes me happy to see like minded men and women voice there opinion.
    7. The Steve uk's of the world should be listened to one time and then patted on the head for the effort. Maybe given candy .they seem to like that.
    Yea I was drunk don't remember half of what I posted to be honest, I did have a few chuckles reading over it all. I am still against guns but either way I will take the pat on the head and some candy. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    I'm not even following you're dialectic. "Bum bum research. What the fvck does that mean Einstein?!?!

    I'm sorry your feeble mind does not comprehend English. I'll have my 7 year old draw you some stick figures. I'm sure you can handle pictures.

    I thought your were in bed anyway? Needed to have the last word? Ok, go ahead. If your ego needs it, you can have the last word (good grief I'm talking to a fvcking child).

    So much for an intellectual conversation on the original topic. Sorry OP, lets steer this back on track.
    intellectual conversation was getting less and less due to the blood alcohol level rising fast, was just after a bit of banter no offense was intended tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK View Post
    Yea I was drunk don't remember half of what I posted to be honest, I did have a few chuckles reading over it all. I am still against guns but either way I will take the pat on the head and some candy. thanks.
    I dont smoke; I'm not trying to stop those who do.
    I dont drink beer; I'm not trying to take beer away from those who like it.
    I dont have sex with men but I'm not trying to stop those who do. Leaves more women for me.
    I dont like green eggs and ham but you may?

    Leave my guns alone. You dont hear about people with concealed carry permits going around shooting places/people up. Taking them away from law abiding citizens will not get them out of the hand of the criminals. Use some logic, think it through instead of reacting due to emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    The state I live in WILL NOT let me carry a gun for my profession. Meanwhile I'm responsible for dealing with murderers and drug dealers on the loose. A week ago I was in a complex where a cache of ak47s were recovered from an apartment. They won't even allow me to use a tazer..... The most I can carry is pepper spray but the bad guys can carry anything they want. It's a fvcked up system
    I'd move as far away as possible from that part of the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

    I'd move as far away as possible from that part of the world!
    Lmao
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    Stevo..... bring something besides your liberal bullshit ..... surely you can call on your 5th grade education to put forth a semi respectable argument.....

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