When do you think jeff seid start taking steroids?

**Arsene** · 08-14-2014, 07:59 PM

Now, jeff seid competes in a competition where there is no drug testing involved, so it's pretty much only normal for the athletes to take steroids .
Now what really makes me wonder is this, jeff seid was already peaking at the age of 16, but would he really have taken steroids at the age of 16? Than howcome hes getting by unscathed, clavice (and height) wise? Same goes for arnold schwarzenegger, hes clavice is pretty wide for someone who took something that supposedly will stop your growth at 16. How do they do it?

Also another question, do you think arnold schwarzenegger is on permanent TRT?

EDIT: Lol didn't know this was my first post, strong first post after 2.5 years of registration.

**Roger11** · 08-14-2014, 08:31 PM

who gives a fuk? And all those photos are enhanced, watch him in recent videos training with Kai green and he looks like a little dweeb.

**lovbyts** · 08-14-2014, 09:28 PM

I would not say he is little but yes nothing like those photos, they are definitely enhanced.

**Shol'va** · 08-15-2014, 02:00 AM

Did someone say Jeff Seid?

I'd like to enhance him...

**Cuz** · 08-15-2014, 06:14 AM

I sure as hell dont give a shit. Hes not massive as they portray him. If you seen him walking around in public in a t shirt would not be impressive just dont have the mass. Single digit bf yes but massive no but he may be one day. He may not even use anything looks pretty good for 12 years old

BG · 08-15-2014, 10:47 AM

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

**Mp859** · 08-15-2014, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by BG

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

If you consider clen natural then yes. I don't think he is on the juice but clen he is definitely using.

**ppwc1985** · 08-15-2014, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

Right on, idk why ppl think because someone looks like this they have to be on something. I was bigger at 215 and cut like that when I was 20 and hadn't used nothing but diet and brutal workouts. I think maybe it's just ppl who don't know what hard work and daily dedication is. Someone who is 5' 11'' should be able to attain 200 before using gear. But it doesn't happen overnight, that there is the problem.

**DrewZ** · 08-15-2014, 05:42 PM

x2 for natural

**austinite** · 08-15-2014, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

Yeah, some folks have insane genetics. There are kids who started lifting younger than him and have 8 packs. I think there's videos of a russian mini arnold.

**Succor** · 08-15-2014, 06:23 PM

Around 16 or so

Have heard rumors his father wanted him to be a professional football player and as a result turned a blind eye and possibly encouraged Jeff's AAS/PED usage. If I recall correctly Jeff tore his ACL once or twice and that was the end of his sports ambitions, causing him to switch over to competing in Men's Physique/the whole "sick kunt aesthetics **** brah" lifestyle/persona to fill the void in it's place. Something along those lines

**Succor** · 08-15-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

If you consider clen natural then yes. I don't think he is on the juice but clen he is definitely using.

He has used/is on far more than just Clenbuterol

**derekkpapa1** · 08-15-2014, 08:29 PM

X2 for who cares

**DAAS** · 08-15-2014, 09:17 PM

been lifting since he was 12. probably just natural

**lovbyts** · 08-15-2014, 09:24 PM

I know 2nd hand he swears he is natural. I think its funny when my daughter was doing a photo shoot with him she showed him some pictures of me and she said he wanted to meet me. Man crush or wanted to ask me about gear?????

never got around to meeting him but I'm still trying to get a signed autograph for Sholva.

**Mp859** · 08-15-2014, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I know 2nd hand he swears he is natural. I think its funny when my daughter was doing a photo shoot with him she showed him some pictures of me and she said he wanted to need me. Man crush or wanted to ask me about gear?????

never got around to meeting him but I'm still trying to get a signed autograph for Sholva.

He wanted to need you? Sounds intense. Lol

**lovbyts** · 08-16-2014, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mp859

He wanted to need you? Sounds intense. Lol

I hate typing on my phone.... LoL

**Shol'va** · 08-16-2014, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mp859

He wanted to need you? Sounds intense. Lol

Yes it does. i\I'm feelin a little Jelly

**Arsene** · 08-19-2014, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by BG

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

Originally Posted by ppwc1985

Right on, idk why ppl think because someone looks like this they have to be on something. I was bigger at 215 and cut like that when I was 20 and hadn't used nothing but diet and brutal workouts. I think maybe it's just ppl who don't know what hard work and daily dedication is. Someone who is 5' 11'' should be able to attain 200 before using gear. But it doesn't happen overnight, that there is the problem.

Guys you should also mind that he is attending bodybuilding competitions where you are not even supposed to be natty for, 0 testing done. It's not like hes attending shows like OCB & IFPA etc.
But yes hes progression over hes teenage years really makes me wonder, I would be a 99.9% sure he used steroids if he wasn't peaking at the age of 15, now i'm +-90% sure.

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I know 2nd hand he swears he is natural. I think its funny when my daughter was doing a photo shoot with him she showed him some pictures of me and she said he wanted to meet me. Man crush or wanted to ask me about gear?????

never got around to meeting him but I'm still trying to get a signed autograph for Sholva.

Hehe I remember you from lurking that other jeff seid thread more than 1 year ago.

**numbere** · 08-19-2014, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by BG

Looks pretty Damn good too me if your that body style. I think he's natural. Great genetics and started young. He's only 195, easily attainable.

x3. Some people have great genetics. I have a friend at my gym with the same body composition. He's 22, 6', 195, and 0% BF during the summer. Last lear he gained 12 pounds of muscle natty.

**Succor** · 08-19-2014, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

x3. Some people have great genetics. I have a friend at my gym with the same body composition. He's 22, 6', 195, and 0% BF during the summer. Last lear he gained 12 pounds of muscle natty.

Did he just start lifting last year or was it progress on top of progress? Reason I ask is because 12 lbs of muscle is doubtful if the latter. LBM =/= entirety muscle

**frank13** · 08-19-2014, 08:10 PM

Of coarse he's on come on now but who cares I just hear of him now

**Euroholic** · 08-19-2014, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

x3. Some people have great genetics. I have a friend at my gym with the same body composition. He's 22, 6', 195, and 0% BF during the summer. Last lear he gained 12 pounds of muscle natty.

???????????????

0% body fat lolz