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10-27-2014, 09:00 PM #1
Hillary Clinton says businesses don’t create jobs
And you, oh honorable member, your thoughts might be?
Hillary Clinton says businesses don’t create jobs. Uh-oh
Hillary Rodham Clinton’s recent comment about trickledown economics has launched a war of spin.
First, here’s what the likely 2016 presidential candidate said at a campaign event last Friday for Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Democratic gubernatorial candidate:
“Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs,” former Secretary of State Clinton said in Boston. “You know that old theory, trickledown economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. One of the things my husband says when people say, ‘What did you bring to Washington?’ He says, ‘I brought arithmetic.’ ”
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That first sentence is similar to a gaffe President Obama made in his 2012 reelection campaign, when he said: “If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” His GOP opponent, Mitt Romney, pounded him mercilessly over that one (though Mr. Romney still lost).
“It’s Hillary Clinton’s ‘You Didn’t Build That Moment’ – and it’s a safe bet that the quote will come back to haunt her,” writes Benjamin Austin at FreePatriot.org.
Regardless of how one interprets Clinton’s comment, there’s little doubt the former first lady’s opponents will use it against her in the presidential campaign, if she runs.
It’s not Clinton’s first gaffe of the unofficial 2016 race. This past June, when she released her latest book, “Hard Choices,” she said she and her husband, the ex-president, came out of the White House in 2001 “dead broke.” For a couple that could instantly command multimillion-dollar book deals and six-figure speaking gigs, the comment seemed strangely off. PolitiFact.com rated it “mostly false.”
As before, liberal watchdog groups are jumping in to defend her, calling for a look at the context.
“The full transcript of her remarks shows she was making the established observation that minimum wage increases can boost a sluggish economy by generating demand, and that tax breaks for the rich don't necessarily move companies to create jobs,” writes the group Media Matters.
Conservative and liberal economists have long been at war over the effectiveness of trickledown (or supply-side) economics – the idea that cutting taxes and regulations frees up capital and allows businesses to grow – including hiring more workers.
The 2016 race is upon us. Everything Clinton says in public will be parsed within an inch of its life -- and already is. Politicians often plead, “Out of context,” when caught saying something off-key. But in the sound-bite reality of political life, Clinton may find it easier just to make sure everything she says, sentence by sentence, sounds good on its own.
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10-27-2014, 09:02 PM #2Banned
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Well Hilary Clinton is a dumbass but she is more of a man than Barack Obama will ever be
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10-27-2014, 09:27 PM #3
Mate,
She will be the first Female president, and we will all be rejoicing in the streets comforted by the knowledge only she can put our country on the right path. But before that, she needs to dump Bill, wed the broad she is shacking up with now, and then she can also have the very fine distinction of being the first gay/lesbian president. That way, EVERYONE in the Village can marry everyone else and we can all live happily ever after.
The end
---Roman
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10-27-2014, 09:32 PM #4
I thought James Buchanan was the first gay president (he's also a big reason for the escalation that led to the Civil War).
Anyways, I don't think Hillary was that wrong in what she said, especially when you figure what she meant by it. But yeah, she's an imbecile and her run as Secretary of State pretty much will keep her from winning the primary.
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10-27-2014, 09:39 PM #5
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10-27-2014, 09:50 PM #6Junior Member
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she is an idiot and would be a terrible president, but we have so many morons who vote on nonsense social issues like gay marriage and bullshit like that, so she has a good chance to win
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10-27-2014, 10:52 PM #7
Anyone that doesn't believe that the free market creates jobs (when left free) is either an idiot, or a bigger idiot. And saying this or that free market principle failed is not something anyone should shake their head and say "YES" to, not when that free market principle is strangled by the government that was supposed to be put in place to protect it. These ideas of joint market/government ventures are a joke and have caused more harm to the growth of America than just about anything else.
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10-28-2014, 05:37 AM #8
With all of her bad choices as Secretary of State I don't think she will ever be able to win the Presidency. If our citizens are dumb enough to elect her this country will go further into hell than it has under Obama.
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10-28-2014, 06:15 AM #9
If she gets elected President, I think I will just stay here, and never return to the states....Jesusssssss she is so WRONG on so many issues, I dont really know where to start.....just, what a stupid bitch...
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10-28-2014, 07:02 AM #10
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10-28-2014, 02:14 PM #11Banned
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She already should have been fired
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10-28-2014, 03:29 PM #12
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10-28-2014, 10:10 PM #13
The solution is obvious everyone.
Elect me Dictator, and I will bestow on all my faithful minions everlasting prosperity and happiness.
Everyone else can eat shit and die
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10-29-2014, 03:06 AM #14
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10-29-2014, 04:54 AM #15
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10-29-2014, 10:53 AM #16
Trickle down economics worked great until government got involved and screwed everything up.
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10-30-2014, 08:03 AM #17
Governments don't create economies/(jobs). Government job based economies are non sustainable. The soviet union is proof of that. Government directives are an extremely poor substitute for economic demand.... too inefficient!
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10-30-2014, 12:55 PM #18
I was having this argument with my mother just the other day. In November of 2016 we will not be voting on whether HRC will be a good/great/horrible president. That isn't the question being put forward to America. The question being asked that day is, "Will HRC be a better president than whoever the GOP nominates." And the answer will be yes. Until the GOP gets its act together and nominates an electable candidate they will continue to lose.
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11-01-2014, 11:07 AM #19
the lesser of two devils........
.............one helluva campaign strategy.
"Vote for me "Shit for Brains" because I won't raise the minimum wage to $35/hour and I won't increase welfare recipient income to $42,000/year"
------My name is "Shit for Brains", and I approve this message
"Vote for me "Shit for Brains II" because I won't go to war with every Muslim country in the world and spend trillions of dollars on the War against Terror"
-----My name is "Shit for Brains II" and I approve this message
So the real question is, Which "Shit for Brains" are you going to vote for?
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11-01-2014, 09:43 PM #20
Sadly, this is what it has become. I know you are being hyperbolic but not far from the truth. We live in a time where attack ads are the best way to win. We rarely hear what candidates will do if elected. We only hear how bad the other person is.
If we don't get a handle on the polarization in this country and move our politics back to the middle the men and women in congress will destroy this country through inaction. We will reach a point where are government will simply stop functioning.
Otherwise where going to end up with Sanders vs Cruz for president and we are all lost.
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11-02-2014, 12:48 AM #21
I agree that the way things are handled is wrong, even after elected the primary goal seems to be acting like you're still on the campaign trail, and that is detrimental to our country. I can't argue with that. But I do not believe the problem lies within far left or far right ideology. The problem is the people voting allowing themselves to make decisions based on sound bites and emotion. The candidates do this because it's what works, and it works because we've become a society that lacks critical thinking and opt to be ruled by our emotions.
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11-10-2014, 10:19 PM #22
The reason why Hillary said that is because she thinks she might have to compete with Elizabeth Warren who is a Marxist.
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