anyone good with dogs? or trainers?

[Sfla80]

So we have had our first dog for 2.5 years now.

He is a very shy timid dog. But at the same time plays and loves to have my parents dog around and even one of my wifes family dog around.

We just got a new puppy, for one we wanted another, and two seeig how happy the first dog is around his friends....thought it would be good for him to have a buddy around the house all the time.

So its only been two days. New puppy is 9 weeks.

But the older one Is not happy, he is acting way out of the ordinary. Wont leave my side.....everything he does now is not his normal routine or his normal self. Puppy tried to play with older one....older is now growling....never has done that before to any person or other dog.

We really love the new dog....but if my other one doesn't get used to him or isn't hapy I will get rid of the puppy sad to say.. And the wife will not be happy at all.

Looking for insite or ideas on how to help the interactions better. And or how long do I give the older dog to come around before making a rash decision.

[Sfla80]

[marcus300]

That's a cute fuking dog

[Sfla80]

That's a cute fuking dog

Thanks marucs. That's another problem though lol ......hate that the older one isn't happy.....but we love the new one.

Cant figure out what to do.

[marcus300]

Thanks marucs. That's another problem though lol ......hate that the older one isn't happy.....but we love the new one.

Cant figure out what to do.

Sorry cant help you with dogs but almost may be able to help you out I know he's into his dogs ( not in a sick way). Maybe time the other dog will come round???

[Sfla80]

Sorry cant help you with dogs but almost may be able to help you out I know he's into his dogs ( not in a sick way). Maybe time the other dog will come round???

Cool thanks....Lmao and yeah I hope not in a sick way....do the only.i would imagine doing that is euro

[Honkey_Kong]

SFLA, it's really the same thing that happens sometimes when a child gets another sibling. They see it as a threat to their position in the house. The dog understands he's getting less attention because of the puppy and his role of being the house baby is over.

As long as he's not fighting the puppy, just give it time they'll eventually even start to play with one another. My German shepherd didn't like the shih tzu when he first moved in. But over the course of several months, they became more tolerant of one another and start to like each other. Now they're at the point where when I send one of them to the groomer's, the other one cries all day. So things do change.

Just make sure you give both dogs equal attention and treats. And the dog treats should be of equal sizes too. I made the mistake of getting my shih tzu a small bone before and the german got a large bone (which was the size of the shih tzu). After the small dog saw the other dog's huge bone, he didn't want his tiny bone. He wanted the big one and so he took it.

[marcus300]

Cool thanks....Lmao and yeah I hope not in a sick way....do the only.i would imagine doing that is euro

LMFAO LOL very true, now he's a right cvnt

[Sfla80]

SFLA, it's really the same thing that happens sometimes when a child gets another sibling. They see it as a threat to their position in the house. The dog understands he's getting less attention because of the puppy and his role of being the house baby is over.

As long as he's not fighting the puppy, just give it time they'll eventually even start to play with one another. My German shepherd didn't like the shih tzu when he first moved in. But over the course of several months, they became more tolerant of one another and start to like each other. Now they're at the point where when I send one of them to the groomer's, the other one cries all day. So things do change.

Just make sure you give both dogs equal attention and treats. And the dog treats should be of equal sizes too. I made the mistake of getting my shih tzu a small bone before and the german got a large bone (which was the size of the shih tzu). After the small dog saw the other dog's huge bone, he didn't want his tiny bone. He wanted the big one and so he took it.

Thanks good info.

The older dog won't even eat his treats right now.

The puppy wants to play....but he doesn't lol. We will give it some time. Just hate seeing the older one like this.

[zempey]

Give it some time, don't be hard on the big dog when he growls at the pup, he is teaching him who is boss. I had a big American Bull Dog and a couple years later my wife brought home a Chihuahua, the big boy wasn't too happy but they became best friends after a couple months. Rufus would growl and sometimes pin him to teach him who was boss, but never intentionally hurt him.

[Sfla80]

Give it some time, don't be hard on the big dog when he growls at the pup, he is teaching him who is boss. I had a big American Bull Dog and a couple years later my wife brought home a Chihuahua, the big boy wasn't too happy but they became best friends after a couple months. Rufus would growl and sometimes pin him to teach him who was boss, but never intentionally hurt him.

Yeah I kinda figured this is what's going on. I can't picture the older one biting....but I get nervous. Both have pit in them. So I am afraid of that coming out.

[zempey]

My little mut used to mess with the big one a lot, once he went too far and latched on the the big boy's nut sack. Big boy spun around and put his mouth around the little guy pinning him down, his head was three times the size of the little one, made some vicious noises, and let him go. I thought it was lights out, he never bit his nuts again, would nip and hang on his jowls, but the nuts were off limits.

[Sfla80]

My little mut used to mess with the big one a lot, once he went too far and latched on the the big boy's nut sack. Big boy spun around and put his mouth around the little guy pinning him down, his head was three times the size of the little one, made some vicious noises, and let him go. I thought it was lights out, he never bit his nuts again, would nip and hang on his jowls, but the nuts were off limits.

LMAO...wow...could only imagine.....well they both don't have nuts anymore ....so we wont be having that problem.....maybe next time though I will let the gowling happen and see what happens after.

[almostgone]

I think it the situation will improve with time. The older dog may feel the new one is threatening his "status". Try to spend a little extra time with the older one, and slowly incorporate the puppy into the activities. That usually does the trick from my experience. It may just take a little while. Probably wouldn't leave them alone together for a very long period of time until things settle down. If they are crate trained that will help some also.
They are both cute!!!
On the plus side, you have them both together in the same picture so that's a start.

[almostgone]

Sorry cant help you with dogs but almost may be able to help you out I know he's into his dogs ( not in a sick way). Maybe time the other dog will come round???

LMAO....thanks for the clarification on that point, big guy!!

[Sfla80]

I think it the situation will improve with time. The older dog may feel the new one is threatening his "status". Try to spend a little extra time with the older one, and slowly incorporate the puppy into the activities. That usually does the trick from my experience. It may just take a little while. Probably wouldn't leave them alone together for a very long period of time until things settle down. If they are crate trained that will help some also.
They are both cute!!!
On the plus side, you have them both together in the same picture so that's a start.

Thanks almost.

We keep the pup in the crate when we aren't home and are sleeping.

Last night was very rough though. Cried and barked all night. Think it's because he shit and pissed inside. We took him out 5 times before bed and he went every time. Might just have to set alarms and take him out every few hours. Ugh!

[almostgone]

Thanks almost.

We keep the pup in the crate when we aren't home and are sleeping.

Last night was very rough though. Cried and barked all night. Think it's because he shit and pissed inside. We took him out 5 times before bed and he went every time. Might just have to set alarms and take him out every few hours. Ugh!

LOL...yes sir, the barking and crying should subside with time and he'll get control of his bladder/bowels. The wife and I generally take turns taking them.outside when their still at the puppy stage....but it sounds like you're familiar with crate training so you know the drill on that. Hang in there!

[Sfla80]

Thanks almost. Will keep this updated every once and awhile....

[Sfla80]

Little update....and another question. We were so spoiled with the older dog. He loved the crate. We didn't even have to house break him...he just knew. He never chewed on anything but his toys.

Now new puppy of course is complete opposite. Major issues are house breaking. We can never catch him in the act so hard to say no or yell at him.

But major issue is the crying in the crate. Any suggestions here? Cries and barks once he wakes up. And it's loud. I hear him at my car which is about 50 yards from the house.

But again hard to be mad at this face.

[RaginCajun]

Hmmmmmmm........maybe throw a sheet over the cage to make it dark?

Def a cute pup

[Sfla80]

Hmmmmmmm........maybe throw a sheet over the cage to make it dark?

Def a cute pup

Tried that....lol.

Gonna leave TV on tonight.

[Honkey_Kong]

Little update....and another question. We were so spoiled with the older dog. He loved the crate. We didn't even have to house break him...he just knew. He never chewed on anything but his toys.

Now new puppy of course is complete opposite. Major issues are house breaking. We can never catch him in the act so hard to say no or yell at him.

But major issue is the crying in the crate. Any suggestions here? Cries and barks once he wakes up. And it's loud. I hear him at my car which is about 50 yards from the house.

But again hard to be mad at this face.

It's hard to do, but if you go over there and give him attention when he cries in the cage, he wont stop. You're giving him the prize for doing what he's not supposed to do so why would he stop?

It's a lot like raising a kid, sometimes you have to be the bad guy and NOT let them get their way. Otherwise you're letting the dog be in control and he'll walk all over you.

[almostgone]

Tried that....lol.

Gonna leave TV on tonight.

If that doesn't help, you could try putting a wind up clock ( old school type that ticks/makes a noise) next to his crate. Sometimes that has worked for us. Some dogs just crate train easier than others. Years ago, one of the pups that we kept out of a litter was naturally housebroken as soon as he was weaned. Damndest thing......

[almostgone]

Little update....and another question. We were so spoiled with the older dog. He loved the crate. We didn't even have to house break him...he just knew. He never chewed on anything but his toys.

Now new puppy of course is complete opposite. Major issues are house breaking. We can never catch him in the act so hard to say no or yell at him.

But major issue is the crying in the crate. Any suggestions here? Cries and barks once he wakes up. And it's loud. I hear him at my car which is about 50 yards from the house.

But again hard to be mad at this face.

Gotta love that face!

[crazy_rocks]

I'm not sure how to apply this to your situation but my mom has had great success with training her dogs with treats to associate what she wants in them with good behavior.