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[Shol'va]

You know how all the news media are showing all those poor souls fleeing their country of Syria, Libya, and a few others. How they are starving and thirsty and well are so in need of food and water just to sustain life itself while they await to see what wonderful western country will allow them in (So they can wreck havoc on western lifestyle and kill and rape and pillage) Uhum anyways, Here is a video of a bunch of those poor sad thirsty people rejecting food and water being given out freely to help quench their thirst. why are they refusing the water and other supplies? Well it is being distributed by the Red Cross and with their muslim belief all things western and christian are evil and to be shunned including the infidels food and water. Amazing and yet they want to come to our countries here in the west. This once again shows for a fact that Islam is incompatible with the west and western lifestyle so why in the hell do they want to come to countries that are not of their beliefs? well one can assume it is to eventually flood that country with more of their like and take it over and convert it to their way of life. what other reason can it be? Check out the video and decide for yourself.......One can either be politically correct and say nothing about it or one can be proactive and tell it like it is. There are three types of people in this world
Those that make things happen
Those that let things happen
And
Those that wonder....what Happened?

[lovbyts]

^^^^ I think you are missing the point of the above video and what is really happening. 75%+ of the refuges are military age men, not women, children and families. They are making it quite clear they are not coming here to escape what is happening at home but many are coming here/there with an agenda and it's not seeking freedom or escaping oppression.

[Hazard]

[lovbyts]

The BBC is claiming that the two are not the the same person and also claiming the fighter pictured above is fighting again ISIS. I know a lot of this stuff does get mixed up and wrong and this may well be one of them but it does not change the fact of what is happening.

If you have any doubts here is what you/we have to look forward to. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=838_1442060609

[calgarian]

do u really think that a 5 years old child gives a crap about who is handing him food and water? Do not take these jackasses and assume that everyone is like that. Hunger and poverty has no religion. I am not in favor nor against they going to any western country but this video to me shows bunch of idiot hiding the fact that they are morons behind religion, thats all.
That wont be the first time an a**hole hid behind religion and try to justify his actions correct.

[lovbyts]

do u really think that a 5 years old child gives a crap about who is handing him food and water? Do not take these jackasses and assume that everyone is like that. Hunger and poverty has no religion. I am not in favor nor against they going to any western country but this video to me shows bunch of idiot hiding the fact that they are morons behind religion, thats all.
That wont be the first time an a**hole hid behind religion and try to justify his actions correct.

Yeah, that's pretty much what is being said. We arent talking about the women and children. I saw one child trying to get some water but no one would let him. You also have to notice in most every video you see out there that 80%
of the people are men. Not old men, not boys but 18-30+ You have to admit that is interesting and you can go back a couple of years ago and listen to ISIS/Al Qaeda leaders saying they will use refugees as cover for sending soldiers.

[Mitch535]

We Met Syria's War Refugees: 7 Awful Things They Told Us | Cracked.com

Here's a different perspective on why you are seeing mostly military aged men. I know it's a comedy website but they do cite sources when and where necessary. According to their interviewers, these military aged men are leaving the country as draft dodgers, trying to avoid a civil war they aren't interested in fighting in. Would be like Canada saying that all these Americans aren't trying to escape the Vietman war but are trying to infiltrate Mother Canada for reasons.

[calgarian]

Yeah, that's pretty much what is being said. We arent talking about the women and children. I saw one child trying to get some water but no one would let him. You also have to notice in most every video you see out there that 80%
of the people are men. Not old men, not boys but 18-30+ You have to admit that is interesting and you can go back a couple of years ago and listen to ISIS/Al Qaeda leaders saying they will use refugees as cover for sending soldiers.

Given the fact that I am a father of 3 kids I wont be able to watch that. I just caught a glimpse of child crying cause a freaking reporter kicked her dad and fell on him ruined my day, so I am staying away from video ant see kids in that kind of situation.

[calgarian]

Yeah, that's pretty much what is being said. We arent talking about the women and children. I saw one child trying to get some water but no one would let him. You also have to notice in most every video you see out there that 80%
of the people are men. Not old men, not boys but 18-30+ You have to admit that is interesting and you can go back a couple of years ago and listen to ISIS/Al Qaeda leaders saying they will use refugees as cover for sending soldiers.

the biggest problem I have with this agency is not only they are terrorist(well that goes without saying) it is that they hire kids, what kind of man do these kinda of thing and shove the ideology down kids throat , so sad it is all happening in the name of religion doesnt really matter which religion it is, shows you how assholes are assholes doesnt really matter what religion they belong to.

[Booz]

I'm not gonna get started on all this bullshit happening in Europe st the moment!!!
75 percent? more like 90 mate.....

[lovbyts]

I'm not gonna get started on all this bullshit happening in Europe st the moment!!!
75 percent? more like 90 mate.....

Yeah you cant normally accuse me of exaggerating.

[Shol'va]

Now we see that in those wonderful muslim countries in time of war like in Afghanistan, both the afghan military and isis and alqueda all prefer the teen boys to the teen girls when it comes to rape 2 to 1. that is one of those things that blows me away is how on the one side the Isis group tries to use the Koran to justify their evil deeds and claims to be so pure to their book of higher authority. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't say in it that it's ok to take any boy or girl and defile them sexually against their will for their pleasure during a raging war or anytime for that matter. so now the poor teen boys are constantly at risk of not only rape by isis and their own military men and if that isnt bad enough but to be gang raped by a whole squadron of horney men passed from one to the other until his anal canal collapses and falls out either killing the boy or having to remove several feet of his lower intestines to save his life and that is only if one is good enough to rush the poor kid to a nearby hospital after the group of ten to twenty men are finished filling his anus up with a half gallon of Afghan semen. and whats worse is when his own mother is tied up and forced to watch the whole thing take place. And no one touches her as they are too busy gettin it on with lil akmed and his once tight lil back door which now has been knocked off it's hinges. What once was heard of him screaming for his life but after the tenth man to finish he has no fight left in him at all. And they want to say our society is the vile one. Hmmm and to top off this craziness a few of our military men while over there teaching the afghan army how to fight Isis got wind of one such incident where a afghan military general had a teen boy tied up at his home and had been bragging about how he was there naked and tied up and how he had torn that booty up over a dozen times already and the poor kids mother found out about it and complained and for complaining they forced her to watch as the afghan soldier raped her son in front of her in the most sadistic way he could. so when a few of our good soldiers found out about this and confronted the afghan soldier he laughed and told them yes and was proud of his captor and what he was doing to him against his will telling our guys it was good for the boys character to Take it like a a man. So our boys gave this guy a good ole beating and now are being faced with discharge from the american armed services for interfering with the customs of another peoples country. It's one thing if those teens boys were selling their butts for a living over there but yet another to be kidnapped and gang raped and kept as a sex slave against his will and that is customs of their country? It's time for our military to pack up and leave Afghanistan, Syria and the middle east as we cant win for losing the culture war. Kind of reminds me of a line from the Original Planet Of The Apes Movie with Charlton Heston when he saw all the apes running the city. He said It's A Madhouse A Madhouse! Of course he also said get your hands off of me you damned dirty stinking ape! But this shiat going on overseas is for real folks and with our newer politically correct King Obama giving orders to our military leaders not to interfere with the muslim customs and ways while we are there putting our lives on the line to protect those ways including massive gang rapings of teen boys and girls, being told to look the other way while those being raped scream for their lives only for them being raped to look up and see their is a massive line of men just eager to be next to rape the poor souls, is it really worth it to save this country and others like it?

[calgarian]

Now we see that in those wonderful muslim countries in time of war like in Afghanistan, both the afghan military and isis and alqueda all prefer the teen boys to the teen girls when it comes to rape 2 to 1. that is one of those things that blows me away is how on the one side the Isis group tries to use the Koran to justify their evil deeds and claims to be so pure to their book of higher authority. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't say in it that it's ok to take any boy or girl and defile them sexually against their will for their pleasure during a raging war or anytime for that matter. so now the poor teen boys are constantly at risk of not only rape by isis and their own military men and if that isnt bad enough but to be gang raped by a whole squadron of horney men passed from one to the other until his anal canal collapses and falls out either killing the boy or having to remove several feet of his lower intestines to save his life and that is only if one is good enough to rush the poor kid to a nearby hospital after the group of ten to twenty men are finished filling his anus up with a half gallon of Afghan semen. and whats worse is when his own mother is tied up and forced to watch the whole thing take place. And no one touches her as they are too busy gettin it on with lil akmed and his once tight lil back door which now has been knocked off it's hinges. What once was heard of him screaming for his life but after the tenth man to finish he has no fight left in him at all. And they want to say our society is the vile one. Hmmm and to top off this craziness a few of our military men while over there teaching the afghan army how to fight Isis got wind of one such incident where a afghan military general had a teen boy tied up at his home and had been bragging about how he was there naked and tied up and how he had torn that booty up over a dozen times already and the poor kids mother found out about it and complained and for complaining they forced her to watch as the afghan soldier raped her son in front of her in the most sadistic way he could. so when a few of our good soldiers found out about this and confronted the afghan soldier he laughed and told them yes and was proud of his captor and what he was doing to him against his will telling our guys it was good for the boys character to Take it like a a man. So our boys gave this guy a good ole beating and now are being faced with discharge from the american armed services for interfering with the customs of another peoples country. It's one thing if those teens boys were selling their butts for a living over there but yet another to be kidnapped and gang raped and kept as a sex slave against his will and that is customs of their country? It's time for our military to pack up and leave Afghanistan, Syria and the middle east as we cant win for losing the culture war. Kind of reminds me of a line from the Original Planet Of The Apes Movie with Charlton Heston when he saw all the apes running the city. He said It's A Madhouse A Madhouse! Of course he also said get your hands off of me you damned dirty stinking ape! But this shiat going on overseas is for real folks and with our newer politically correct King Obama giving orders to our military leaders not to interfere with the muslim customs and ways while we are there putting our lives on the line to protect those ways including massive gang rapings of teen boys and girls, being told to look the other way while those being raped scream for their lives only for them being raped to look up and see their is a massive line of men just eager to be next to rape the poor souls, is it really worth it to save this country and others like it?

The good thing and bad thing about religion and any religion it is open for interpretation. we got crazies running around shouting religion name to fulfill their agenda and hide behind the religion.

[lovbyts]

Now we see that in those wonderful muslim countries in time of war like in Afghanistan, both the afghan military and isis and alqueda all prefer the teen boys to the teen girls when it comes to rape 2 to 1. that is one of those things that blows me away is how on the one side the Isis group tries to use the Koran to justify their evil deeds and claims to be so pure to their book of higher authority. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't say in it that it's ok to take any boy or girl and defile them sexually against their will for their pleasure during a raging war or anytime for that matter. so now the poor teen boys are constantly at risk of not only rape by isis and their own military men and if that isnt bad enough but to be gang raped by a whole squadron of horney men passed from one to the other until his anal canal collapses and falls out either killing the boy or having to remove several feet of his lower intestines to save his life and that is only if one is good enough to rush the poor kid to a nearby hospital after the group of ten to twenty men are finished filling his anus up with a half gallon of Afghan semen. and whats worse is when his own mother is tied up and forced to watch the whole thing take place. And no one touches her as they are too busy gettin it on with lil akmed and his once tight lil back door which now has been knocked off it's hinges. What once was heard of him screaming for his life but after the tenth man to finish he has no fight left in him at all. And they want to say our society is the vile one. Hmmm and to top off this craziness a few of our military men while over there teaching the afghan army how to fight Isis got wind of one such incident where a afghan military general had a teen boy tied up at his home and had been bragging about how he was there naked and tied up and how he had torn that booty up over a dozen times already and the poor kids mother found out about it and complained and for complaining they forced her to watch as the afghan soldier raped her son in front of her in the most sadistic way he could. so when a few of our good soldiers found out about this and confronted the afghan soldier he laughed and told them yes and was proud of his captor and what he was doing to him against his will telling our guys it was good for the boys character to Take it like a a man. So our boys gave this guy a good ole beating and now are being faced with discharge from the american armed services for interfering with the customs of another peoples country. It's one thing if those teens boys were selling their butts for a living over there but yet another to be kidnapped and gang raped and kept as a sex slave against his will and that is customs of their country? It's time for our military to pack up and leave Afghanistan, Syria and the middle east as we cant win for losing the culture war. Kind of reminds me of a line from the Original Planet Of The Apes Movie with Charlton Heston when he saw all the apes running the city. He said It's A Madhouse A Madhouse! Of course he also said get your hands off of me you damned dirty stinking ape! But this shiat going on overseas is for real folks and with our newer politically correct King Obama giving orders to our military leaders not to interfere with the muslim customs and ways while we are there putting our lives on the line to protect those ways including massive gang rapings of teen boys and girls, being told to look the other way while those being raped scream for their lives only for them being raped to look up and see their is a massive line of men just eager to be next to rape the poor souls, is it really worth it to save this country and others like it?

Well, actually it does. You can easily find online where it is documented. As for girls you are not allowed to have virginal intercourse with them under the age of 9 although other types of pleasing yourself with their body is acceptable. I'm not sure what it says in details about boys but I'm sure it's similar. The age thing is not a hard fast rule since there is a story about one of the head guys (I forget his name) deciding he wanted a visitor's 4 year old daughter because she was beautiful and they could hear her cries and screams all night. This was considered OK..

The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, set the standard for Muslims in the Qur’an. He married a girl, Aisha, who was just six years old. It says in the Qur’an that Allah sanctioned this for the prophet, and for all who follow Islam. It says in the Qur’an that Allah permitted Muhammad to to consummate the marriage to Aisha when she was nine. Before then, he was allowed to fondle her, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged

[wmaousley]

Well, actually it does. You can easily find online where it is documented. As for girls you are not allowed to have virginal intercourse with them under the age of 9 although other types of pleasing yourself with their body is acceptable. I'm not sure what it says in details about boys but I'm sure it's similar. The age thing is not a hard fast rule since there is a story about one of the head guys (I forget his name) deciding he wanted a visitor's 4 year old daughter because she was beautiful and they could hear her cries and screams all night. This was considered OK..

The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, set the standard for Muslims in the Qur’an. He married a girl, Aisha, who was just six years old. It says in the Qur’an that Allah sanctioned this for the prophet, and for all who follow Islam. It says in the Qur’an that Allah permitted Muhammad to to consummate the marriage to Aisha when she was nine. Before then, he was allowed to fondle her, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged

The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not marry Sayyidah Aisha out of his physical desires. One need to note that for first 54 years of his life he had only one wife. His only wife till 50th year of his life was Sayyida Khadija. He spent his entire youth with her and she was a two time widowed woman, 15 years elder to him. For next four years his only wife was Sayyidah Sa’uda.

One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, and rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago.

Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history.

Even in Indo-Pak Sub-Continent girls used to be married at 12-13 even 50-60 years ago. And those ‘girls’ infact raised much better families. There were less family problems then. A simple analyses of the divorce rate then and know would certainly make it clear that maturity level earlier used to be different i.e. people used to come of age rather quickly.

The fact that it was a completely acceptable thing can also be seen from the response of the pagans at that time. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:1-People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.2-Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many non-Muslim and Muslim countries

Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage.


It is not allowed in Islam for any man to touch his wife unless she has started menstruating. Nor is underage marriage practiced in Islam today.

1400 years ago shit was a hell of a lot different than today. Lets live in the present and not the past.

[wmaousley]

You know how all the news media are showing all those poor souls fleeing their country of Syria, Libya, and a few others. How they are starving and thirsty and well are so in need of food and water just to sustain life itself while they await to see what wonderful western country will allow them in (So they can wreck havoc on western lifestyle and kill and rape and pillage) Uhum anyways, Here is a video of a bunch of those poor sad thirsty people rejecting food and water being given out freely to help quench their thirst. why are they refusing the water and other supplies? Well it is being distributed by the Red Cross and with their muslim belief all things western and christian are evil and to be shunned including the infidels food and water. Amazing and yet they want to come to our countries here in the west. This once again shows for a fact that Islam is incompatible with the west and western lifestyle so why in the hell do they want to come to countries that are not of their beliefs? well one can assume it is to eventually flood that country with more of their like and take it over and convert it to their way of life. what other reason can it be? Check out the video and decide for yourself.......One can either be politically correct and say nothing about it or one can be proactive and tell it like it is. There are three types of people in this world
Those that make things happen
Those that let things happen
And
Those that wonder....what Happened?

Let their nasty asses starve and die of thirst. No one cares about people like this. Its a shame that they seem to think they are entitled to something more than what was offered.

[lovbyts]

Let their nasty asses starve and die of thirst. No one cares about people like this. Its a shame that they seem to think they are entitled to something more than what was offered.

The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not marry Sayyidah Aisha out of his physical desires. One need to note that for first 54 years of his life he had only one wife. His only wife till 50th year of his life was Sayyida Khadija. He spent his entire youth with her and she was a two time widowed woman, 15 years elder to him. For next four years his only wife was Sayyidah Sa’uda.

One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, and rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago.

Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history.

Even in Indo-Pak Sub-Continent girls used to be married at 12-13 even 50-60 years ago. And those ‘girls’ infact raised much better families. There were less family problems then. A simple analyses of the divorce rate then and know would certainly make it clear that maturity level earlier used to be different i.e. people used to come of age rather quickly.

The fact that it was a completely acceptable thing can also be seen from the response of the pagans at that time. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:1-People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.2-Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many non-Muslim and Muslim countries

Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage.


It is not allowed in Islam for any man to touch his wife unless she has started menstruating. Nor is underage marriage practiced in Islam today.

1400 years ago shit was a hell of a lot different than today. Lets live in the present and not the past.

I understand what you are saying and agree especially with the that was then this is now and how no one likes to admit about the past. Ive always said you can change laws but not genetics or hormones as of when kids hit puberty. There are WAY to many kids getting charged with sex crimes for normal boy/girl activities such as show and dont tell, playing doctor or even kissing. Our laws/high morals are idiotic.

That being said it's a different story for adults. From what I have been told by people who live there and have lived there in the past (middle East) it is still common place for these activities between adults and children as it was 100s of years ago.

You also see/hear on the news all the time about the large extremist groups as well as small local groups going around on rape parties. There are a lot of reports also from the military that their Muslim counterparts engage in these activities frequently and they are ordered to no interfere, report it or say anything. I work with some of them who were there now. I'm not talking only about what is on the media.

Bottom line it seems there are a lot of people there who are still living in the dark ages by choice and dont want to be part of the 20th century. If that is the case it's fine but then dont come here expecting the same just as we should not go there forcing our ways on them unless asked.

I'm not sure what the answer is to fix things at this point but something needs done because it's effecting everyone everywhere.

[djgreen]

agree ^^ I know a guy who is a retired marine sniper who served in all of the major war zones he reminds me of that guy in the movie American sniper he even looks like him a little and he told me stories of what is called a sha boy who is usually an orphan and lives at the masque and he serves tea during the day and gets gang raped at night he also spoke of them not using tolite paper they wipe there ass with there hand so they are definitely living in dark ages and do not plan on changing anything

[calgarian]

agree ^^ I know a guy who is a retired marine sniper who served in all of the major war zones he reminds me of that guy in the movie American sniper he even looks like him a little and he told me stories of what is called a sha boy who is usually an orphan and lives at the masque and he serves tea during the day and gets gang raped at night he also spoke of them not using tolite paper they wipe there ass with there hand so they are definitely living in dark ages and do not plan on changing anything

That is not true but I wont get into it just yet because it will take the focus away from the big issue we are talking about.

[calgarian]

Let their nasty asses starve and die of thirst. No one cares about people like this. Its a shame that they seem to think they are entitled to something more than what was offered.

I bet that they will go and drink the water and food that was supplied in private of course.....It just mind boggling how much propaganda these guys create just to push THEIR ideology down to people's throat and just in the name of religion.......I am sad espacially for the poor kids that have to live through this , to me this world will be a candy store for the kids. it just hurt me very bad to see young kids being the victim . Just sad i am not aware of any religion and i mean ANY religion that will preach hurting kids or making them suffer with hunger and thrust just to prove the ideology.

[djgreen]

I don't think he would lie about anything but in the place he was in this happened because they wipe with the left hand and eat with the right hand and it is considered an insult to touch someone with the left hand I don't doubt the guy for a second he is a local hero who ranked high before he retire and has never gave a reason to doubt him they don't actually leave crap on there hands they carry water with them and wash everything by hand with the water

[RigPig]

I don't think he would lie about anything but in the place he was in this happened because they wipe with the left hand and eat with the right hand and it is considered an insult to touch someone with the left hand I don't doubt the guy for a second he is a local hero who ranked high before he retire and has never gave a reason to doubt him they don't actually leave crap on there hands they carry water with them and wash everything by hand with the water

Ok so there is truth to what you are saying, but I don't see it as barbaric. In ever washroom I've seen in the Middle East. In both remote and urban areas, there are options.
1- use the hose and wash yourself off
2- use toilet paper and don't use the hose.
Now, until you've done it their way, don't knock it. It's like taking a shower after a shit, IMO, way cleaner.
I spent 2 years in the ME and eventually found myself without toilet paper, had to result to the hose. It's the cleanest I've ever felt after using the washroom. I got to the point when id return home I'd only use baby wipes or have a shower afterward because I just felt cleaner.
Ask your Marine buddy what he did in combat when he was without toilet paper? One can only carry so many "shit tickets" in their ruck before they are out of room for the important stuff lol.

And there are Left handed Arabs, the whole left hand thing disrespect thing isn't like you think. Unless you are trying to piss them off somehow then they don't care. They are not as barbaric as everyone thinks. Our media has tainted our beliefs. They have Bad, yep so do We. Even some of our bad hide it behind the mask of religion.

[MrFreshmaker]

I was following this thread and one thing I don't get it!!Why if an arab does something bad,they say it's Islam,but when an american or europian does a bad thing,no one says its christianity?You can't blame a religion because of an individual,cuz all depends in menthality.Arabs don't represent islam,i met many arabs who didn't had clue about islam,or they just didn't care,they drink alcohol,eat pork,smoke weed etc.

[calgarian]

I was following this thread and one thing I don't get it!!Why if an arab does something bad,they say it's Islam,but when an american or europian does a bad thing,no one says its christianity?You can't blame a religion because of an individual,cuz all depends in menthality.Arabs don't represent islam,i met many arabs who didn't had clue about islam,or they just didn't care,they drink alcohol,eat pork,smoke weed etc.

thats the power of Media for you. They got us so good that if we see Arab even from a distance the first thing that will come to our mind oh Arab , must be muslim and must be terrorist. Now you can see how much we got effected by main stream media.

[lovbyts]

I was following this thread and one thing I don't get it!!Why if an arab does something bad,they say it's Islam,but when an american or europian does a bad thing,no one says its christianity?You can't blame a religion because of an individual,cuz all depends in menthality.Arabs don't represent islam,i met many arabs who didn't had clue about islam,or they just didn't care,they drink alcohol,eat pork,smoke weed etc.

Well maybe part of it is because they themselves are the ones saying it's in the name of Allah = God to the Muslim belief and actually, especially Obama like to point his fingers at Christians for past sins. There are also some small extreamist groups such as KKK who claim to be Christians but most other Christians reject their claims.

No you cant blame them all or even a majority except for the fact they out number ISIS but 100/1 and are not standing up to them in their own country and coming to other countries then demanding special treatment.

There are pro and cons to the argument for sure.

[RigPig]

Well maybe part of it is because they themselves are the ones saying it's in the name of Allah = God to the Muslim belief and actually, especially Obama like to point his fingers at Christians for past sins. There are also some small extreamist groups such as KKK who claim to be Christians but most other Christians reject their claims. No you cant blame them all or even a majority except for the fact they out number ISIS but 100/1 and are not standing up to them in their own country and coming to other countries then demanding special treatment. There are pro and cons to the argument for sure.

IMO the reason behind them not standing up to ISIS is fear of death and retaliation. 90% of middle eastern men I have met are actually pretty passive and tolerant. They do not like confrontations and are easily thrown off-guard when spoken to aggressively. In my profession North American Rig workers are a "rough & tough" bunch and it's part of the job, taking that same attitude with me to the Middle East was an eye opener. You cannot speak to them the way we speak to each other or they get scrambled and you get nothing done.

We could argue the same on our side of the pond. We get people come in and want us to conform to their ways. WE as North Americans DO conform otherwise we are branded racists.
The only difference is the ones that show up on our boarders do not show up with guns and violently push their views upon entry. Never the less, we still conform to their demands and change our ways to suit their new found "freedom"
What can we do about this? Nothing because our government lets it happen.

[wmaousley]

I understand what you are saying and agree especially with the that was then this is now and how no one likes to admit about the past. Ive always said you can change laws but not genetics or hormones as of when kids hit puberty. There are WAY to many kids getting charged with sex crimes for normal boy/girl activities such as show and dont tell, playing doctor or even kissing. Our laws/high morals are idiotic.

That being said it's a different story for adults. From what I have been told by people who live there and have lived there in the past (middle East) it is still common place for these activities between adults and children as it was 100s of years ago.

You also see/hear on the news all the time about the large extremist groups as well as small local groups going around on rape parties. There are a lot of reports also from the military that their Muslim counterparts engage in these activities frequently and they are ordered to no interfere, report it or say anything. I work with some of them who were there now. I'm not talking only about what is on the media.

Bottom line it seems there are a lot of people there who are still living in the dark ages by choice and dont want to be part of the 20th century. If that is the case it's fine but then dont come here expecting the same just as we should not go there forcing our ways on them unless asked.

I'm not sure what the answer is to fix things at this point but something needs done because it's effecting everyone everywhere.

These rape parties only exist on the news stories. I have never been able to verify these stories. There are people living in the dark ages in every country who practice all religions. Catholic priests bumping uglies with kids, FDLS in the great USA marrying 9 year old girls, Islamic extremists forcing marriage on underage girls, etc. This shit is happening everywhere, not just the middle east or with Muslims. Its every fvcking religion and it goes beyond that as far as I am concerned. The problem I have is everyone only wants to talk zbout how this is an Islamic problem and not the truth that this is a sickening pedo issue. Hell Orthodox Jews in the states are arrested every year for fvcking their daughters. I could go on and on about this.

[wmaousley]

agree ^^ I know a guy who is a retired marine sniper who served in all of the major war zones he reminds me of that guy in the movie American sniper he even looks like him a little and he told me stories of what is called a sha boy who is usually an orphan and lives at the masque and he serves tea during the day and gets gang raped at night he also spoke of them not using tolite paper they wipe there ass with there hand so they are definitely living in dark ages and do not plan on changing anything

LOL this is not true at all. For one no one can live at a mosque nor would anyone serve tea at a mosque. Its a place of worship not a damn café. Secondly there is a large majority of people that think that people here use their left hand to wipe their ass. The left hand part it true, however its not bare handed. They use toilet paper just like you, however I must add they are infact cleaner after taking a shlt than you are because they utilize a bidet or some form of pressurized water to clean their ass versus smearing shit all over their asshole with half a roll of paper then staying that way all day. Toilet paper alone will not clean you 100% after using the bathroom. 1st world nastiness.

[wmaousley]

I don't think he would lie about anything but in the place he was in this happened because they wipe with the left hand and eat with the right hand and it is considered an insult to touch someone with the left hand I don't doubt the guy for a second he is a local hero who ranked high before he retire and has never gave a reason to doubt him they don't actually leave crap on there hands they carry water with them and wash everything by hand with the water

lol its is not an insult to touch anyone with your left hand. Fox news has you on tilt. I can doubt any US soldier because I used to be one and I know how much they really know about local culture and religious customs which is nil. You need an education.

[wmaousley]

Ok so there is truth to what you are saying, but I don't see it as barbaric. In ever washroom I've seen in the Middle East. In both remote and urban areas, there are options.
1- use the hose and wash yourself off
2- use toilet paper and don't use the hose.
Now, until you've done it their way, don't knock it. It's like taking a shower after a shit, IMO, way cleaner.
I spent 2 years in the ME and eventually found myself without toilet paper, had to result to the hose. It's the cleanest I've ever felt after using the washroom. I got to the point when id return home I'd only use baby wipes or have a shower afterward because I just felt cleaner.
Ask your Marine buddy what he did in combat when he was without toilet paper? One can only carry so many "shit tickets" in their ruck before they are out of room for the important stuff lol.

And there are Left handed Arabs, the whole left hand thing disrespect thing isn't like you think. Unless you are trying to piss them off somehow then they don't care. They are not as barbaric as everyone thinks. Our media has tainted our beliefs. They have Bad, yep so do We. Even some of our bad hide it behind the mask of religion.

Thank you for this, my daughter and wife are both left handed.

[calgarian]

Thank you for this, my daughter and wife are both left handed.

so AM I
i guess i am cleaning my shit and throwing the ball from the same hand

[calgarian]

These rape parties only exist on the news stories. I have never been able to verify these stories. There are people living in the dark ages in every country who practice all religions. Catholic priests bumping uglies with kids, FDLS in the great USA marrying 9 year old girls, Islamic extremists forcing marriage on underage girls, etc. This shit is happening everywhere, not just the middle east or with Muslims. Its every fvcking religion and it goes beyond that as far as I am concerned. The problem I have is everyone only wants to talk zbout how this is an Islamic problem and not the truth that this is a sickening pedo issue. Hell Orthodox Jews in the states are arrested every year for fvcking their daughters. I could go on and on about this.

That..

[djgreen]

wmaously just curious how much time did you serve in battle zones like Kandahar province the reason I ask is because not all of Iraqi Afghanistan is exactly the same just like in America customs differ between north and south so unless you spent time in almost every state in Iraqi and Afghanistan then how can you say you know what is right or wrong from what the guy told me and what was your rank because the person I speak of retired with a chest full of medals

[RigPig]

wmaously just curious how much time did you serve in battle zones like Kandahar province the reason I ask is because not all of Iraqi Afghanistan is exactly the same just like in America customs differ between north and south so unless you spent time in almost every state in Iraqi and Afghanistan then how can you say you know what is right or wrong from what the guy told me and what was your rank because the person I speak of retired with a chest full of medals

Better yet Dj, why don't you tell us exactly what country and province these things did happen so we know what to avoid. Your first comment about your retired friend war story lumps all Muslim/Arabs into the same category.

[djgreen]

I cant remember the names they are not English of course i mainly remember Kandahar and no not all Muslims are the same that would be like saying all white people are rednecks or all black people are gangsters but in the parts that are war ridden they are indeed living in the stone age and i doubt i would have to warn anyone about those places because if you tried to go there you would figure out real quick Americans are not welcome

[MrFreshmaker]

I cant remember the names they are not English of course i mainly remember Kandahar and no not all Muslims are the same that would be like saying all white people are rednecks or all black people are gangsters but in the parts that are war ridden they are indeed living in the stone age and i doubt i would have to warn anyone about those places because if you tried to go there you would figure out real quick Americans are not welcome

People in Kandahar are not even arabs lol

[MrFreshmaker]

I cant remember the names they are not English of course i mainly remember Kandahar and no not all Muslims are the same that would be like saying all white people are rednecks or all black people are gangsters but in the parts that are war ridden they are indeed living in the stone age and i doubt i would have to warn anyone about those places because if you tried to go there you would figure out real quick Americans are not welcome

Btw people in Afghanistan didn't saw a day of peace since soviet invasion in 1979.That's reason they live like in stone age.After soviets,taliban took over and so on.

[djgreen]

i wasn't talking about arabs specifically?? and yea that is why i said they live in the stone age

[lovbyts]

These rape parties only exist on the news stories. I have never been able to verify these stories. There are people living in the dark ages in every country who practice all religions. Catholic priests bumping uglies with kids, FDLS in the great USA marrying 9 year old girls, Islamic extremists forcing marriage on underage girls, etc. This shit is happening everywhere, not just the middle east or with Muslims. Its every fvcking religion and it goes beyond that as far as I am concerned. The problem I have is everyone only wants to talk zbout how this is an Islamic problem and not the truth that this is a sickening pedo issue. Hell Orthodox Jews in the states are arrested every year for fvcking their daughters. I could go on and on about this.

Well I may be falling victim to some of the media hype I always warn other about.

[wmaousley]

wmaously just curious how much time did you serve in battle zones like Kandahar province the reason I ask is because not all of Iraqi Afghanistan is exactly the same just like in America customs differ between north and south so unless you spent time in almost every state in Iraqi and Afghanistan then how can you say you know what is right or wrong from what the guy told me and what was your rank because the person I speak of retired with a chest full of medals

I served 19 months in direct action & CQB combat.