Syrians captured at border in Laredo, Texas

[Euroholic]

I'd hate to be a Muslim veteran right about now. To think a Muslim served in our military and fought to save your ass would just burn you up. I'm here to tell you, there were a few who did.

Ones God has no bearing on a states civil service. Unless you were conscripted you joined the civil service at your own peril to provide a service to your community to which you were compensated. Your god or my god does not even come into the equation. Because the state trumps peoples gods who cares who people call god or if some people hate foreskin the civil service is about community not religion.

[lovbyts]

Thats it mate. If you want refugees in your country then let them live in your house and you support them not the tax payer.

I have made the same suggestions to some bleeding heart progressive liberals who are 100% for the refugees coming get here. I have told them I will even come over and bring tents to set up in their yard because most make excuses of jot having room even after I explain they are use to fitting several generations of family in a smaller sized house. LoL

These people want to help as long as there is no personal inconvenience. I think death is pretty inconvenient.

I have made a few people change their minds. I find most people are just very low information and decide on emotion. I have been telling them to not believe the media or me, go look at any YouTube video they want and pay attention to what is happening in the background. Even the few videos where they try to focus on women and children there are only a few and hundreds of men in the background. That convinces some of them that use logic. Other don't care. You can't fix stupid..

[lovbyts]

This is a complex issue and depending on your values and experiences, many possibilities exist and not everyone will be satisfied.

I wish it was complex to everyone. Some people just refuse to use any logic or look at and facts and data and want to only go with emotions. I'm saying that seriously. I have gotten I discussions with people who really say why not just go with how you feel instead of data or facts?

Reminds me of the flower power generation. Peace and love baby it worked just fine as long as their parents supported them but once they got hungry and needed to work for a living it all changed. Problem is we have a larger generation of them now dependant on government assistance.

[wmaousley]

I'd hate to be a Muslim veteran right about now. To think a Muslim served in our military and fought to save your ass would just burn you up. I'm here to tell you, there were a few who did.

Why would you hate to be a Muslim veteran? Really makes no difference to the VA because our combat awards speak before anything else. You cant just look at someone and determine their religion. BTW thousands of Muslim Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, Airman & Coast Guardsman served in Iraq & Afghanistan honorably. Some were awarded Bronze, Silver Stars for Valor.

[Bonaparte]

The facts aren't really arguable, that's why they're facts. But in today's world facts no longer matter and are whatever we want them to be. We've started looking at facts like gender, you/they can be whatever you want it to be. Through history you have the Golden Age, the Age of Enlightenment...so on and so on. History will look back and laugh and call us the age of ridiculous.

Unarguable facts:

The majority of the fleeing refuges are fighting aged men...more than half.

Except that your "facts" aren't coming from the UN, who is the authority on the subject, since they're the ones with whom the refugees registered. I'm not arguing for the sake of other countries' refugees (at least not in this thread).

"UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women"

Stretching Facts on Syrian Refugees

I don't care too much whether we take in single fighting aged men or not, but the women, children, and single fathers should at least be given refuge until Syria is stabilized. Hopefully most of us can agree on that.

[RigPig]

If our countries are going to take them in we should take all the men 18+, train them to fight and send them back to fight for their own country. Let the women and children stay until order is restored then send them back as well.

[MrFreshmaker]

Except that your "facts" aren't coming from the UN, who is the authority on the subject, since they're the ones with whom the refugees registered. I'm not arguing for the sake of other countries' refugees (at least not in this thread). "UNHCR's data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women" Stretching Facts on Syrian Refugees I don't care too much whether we take in single fighting aged men or not, the women, children, and single fathers should at least be given refuge until Syria is stabilized. Hopefully most of us can agree on that.

When my country was at war during balkan wars,USA took many refugees,and after the war,many returned home.We thank USA for all that did for us,we are grateful,probably syrians and others will be!

[lovbyts]

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I don't care too much whether we take in single fighting aged men or not, but the women, children, and single fathers should at least be given refuge until Syria is stabilized. Hopefully most of us can agree on that.

This I completely agree with.

[RigPig]

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[Metalject]

Except that your "facts" aren't coming from the UN, who is the authority on the subject, since they're the ones with whom the refugees registered. I'm not arguing for the sake of other countries' refugees (at least not in this thread).

"UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women"

Stretching Facts on Syrian Refugees

I don't care too much whether we take in single fighting aged men or not, but the women, children, and single fathers should at least be given refuge until Syria is stabilized. Hopefully most of us can agree on that.

That statistic only holds value if you accept anything the UN says or states, I do not. In my opinion, and this is just option (opinions aren't facts) the UN is one of the biggest jokes in the history of mankind and a far cry from being "expert" on anything. Further, one of the more corrupt and inept organizations to ever exist. Further, the vetting process by the UN is a joke...vetting people that don't exist in any modern database is already difficult, but becomes even more difficult when you can't or won't say and ask certain things due to a fear of being offensive or called a bigot. Anyway, that's another problem, we can't agree on facts (society as a whole) because all of us distrust at least to a degree different places supposed facts come from.

[austinite]

argh.

[RaginCajun]

just more middle easterns caught doing stuff around the US/Mexican border

Team led by Middle Eastern Woman Caught Surveilling U.S. Facility on Mexican Border - Judicial Watch

[Euroholic]

If I was a USA person I would vote for trump he knows the threat he is not afraid to do what it takes to protect his country. There is a difference between Islam the religion and Islam the ideology. The religion is just that but the ideology is what we are at war with. Trump knows this and the sooner the masses know this we can launch our first offensive.

[RaginCajun]

If I was a USA person I would vote for trump he knows the threat he is not afraid to do what it takes to protect his country. There is a difference between Islam the religion and Islam the ideology. The religion is just that but the ideology is what we are at war with. Trump knows this and the sooner the masses know this we can launch our first offensive.

trump has to win the GOP nomination first.

i plan on voting for him given the nomination, he doesn't have to answer to all the donors who give millions of dollars in campaign money for favors

[somewhatjacked]

If our countries are going to take them in we should take all the men 18+, train them to fight and send them back to fight for their own country. Let the women and children stay until order is restored then send them back as well.

Training them to fight, sending them back, weapons, food etc - that's a lot of money man. This will only hurt the country.

Different countries are accepting refugees on humanitarian basis.

[somewhatjacked]

If refugees looked like this no guy would have a problem - lmaoo

[somewhatjacked]

So many of the "refugees" are military aged males. That says alot to me. We need to fix the problem at the source ie launch a offensive to eradicate the threat of extremist islam. Allowing refugees into western society will create more dramas than what it is worth. We have spent hundreds of years building our countries up to the level they are at and these people come from countries that are basically failed states. I have no sympathy for other peoples lack of civilized standards. This is how arrogant these people are they think they can be a burden on our society/economy and we should just welcome them with open arms and pay for it all. Well i dont see it that way. If they were actually trying to make a stand and show some self respect then i would feel sympathy towards them but the fact they just want to pull out and let someone else deal with it just shows how much lack of a sense of community these people have. Muslim, druze, kurd, christan i dont care who they call god i just know they are going to return nothing to the investment the tax payer has to make.

"Eradicate threat " - how? Start another war? That will destroy the economy

"Trying to make a stand" - how can unarmed families fight an army with guns?

Having said that I am not saying bringing refugees will help the country. There is a lot poverty in the country that should be addressed before accepting more problems. However, due to social pressure certain measures have to be taken as one of the leaders of the world.

Canada is accepting 25,000 refugees, Turkey has accepted several thousands. Every country is doing something. On an international platform how can America say no?

[Darkness]

trump has to win the GOP nomination first.

i plan on voting for him given the nomination, he doesn't have to answer to all the donors who give millions of dollars in campaign money for favors

I think him and Ted Cruz are going to pair up.

[RaginCajun]

I think him and Ted Cruz are going to pair up.

That works

Anyone but that demon Hillary

It's still hard for me to figure out how them Dems can put Hillary up for their nominee when she has been under so much scrutiny, not to mention being investigated

[Hoggage_54]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada and his dad is a Cuban refugee...

And speaking of Canada, we have taken in far more refugees in the past. It's quite amusing seeing some of my friends asking "why are we accepting 25,000 refugees!!?? we can't afford it!! we don't need them, go home blah blah blah"... not knowing that we regularly take in 10-15k a year, and have in the past taken far more, and there has NEVER been a security or culture issue. Even before Canada was a nation, there were refugees coming here, such as escaped slaves and loyalists.

[Metalject]

trump has to win the GOP nomination first.

i plan on voting for him given the nomination, he doesn't have to answer to all the donors who give millions of dollars in campaign money for favors

At this point it's just speculation, no one can say anything definite about Trump, but my biggest concern with him is that he'll be the biggest power grab in presidential history, more so than Obama who's already been horrible in that regard. My second concern is all the big government ideas he has...government is going to fix it, his government. That is always a red flag for me.

"Eradicate threat " - how? Start another war? That will destroy the economy

"Trying to make a stand" - how can unarmed families fight an army with guns?

Having said that I am not saying bringing refugees will help the country. There is a lot poverty in the country that should be addressed before accepting more problems. However, due to social pressure certain measures have to be taken as one of the leaders of the world.

Canada is accepting 25,000 refugees, Turkey has accepted several thousands. Every country is doing something. On an international platform how can America say no?

America should be able to say whatever it needs to say just as every country should take that approach. The "oh but they're doing it" approach has to go.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada and his dad is a Cuban refugee...

And speaking of Canada, we have taken in far more refugees in the past. It's quite amusing seeing some of my friends asking "why are we accepting 25,000 refugees!!?? we can't afford it!! we don't need them, go home blah blah blah"... not knowing that we regularly take in 10-15k a year, and have in the past taken far more, and there has NEVER been a security or culture issue. Even before Canada was a nation, there were refugees coming here, such as escaped slaves and loyalists.

Are you saying Cruz doesn't qualify to be president?
The 3 qualifications are as follows:

1. 35yrs old or older.
2. Lived in the U.S. for 14yrs
3. Must be a natural born citizen.

A natural born citizen means a citizen from birth, which means the day you were born you were a citizen, it does not mean you were born on U.S. soil. The Naturalization Act of 1790 states children born abroad to a U.S. citizen are a U.S. citizen at birth. The only instance where birth on U.S. soil would be a factor is if the child was born to a non-U.S. citizen.

[-Ender-]

just more middle easterns caught doing stuff around the US/Mexican border

Team led by Middle Eastern Woman Caught Surveilling U.S. Facility on Mexican Border - Judicial Watch

This is the kind of story that will harden some Americans resolve toward acceptance, or immigration.

The past 20 years of US involvement in the middle east has done little to establish American understanding or acceptance.

There are many Americans that believe that America should be looking out for itself first. Compounding the issue is an underlying feeling for a lot of Americans that the rest of the world doesn't think fondly of the USA.
So why would they want to help? Why doesn't the rest of the world want them?
...must be a downside, eh? like terrorism?

[bass]

the best solution is what Trump and few others suggested, is to have a (no fly zone) somewhere in the middle-east, preferably Syria, and aid refugees there not here. i am all for helping the innocent but also kill the guilty. This is the greatest country in the world, unfortunately we have way too many people/haters/guilty/ think otherwise, or make it do something that will be damaging to Americans and its future. 40 years ago i fled the Islamic terrorism, i can't believe i am in the middle if it again! WTF?!

[bethdoth]

If there were 10,000 m&m's and only 1% were poison.... how many would you eat?Attachment 160908 My simple little refugee analogy!

[Metalject]

If there were 10,000 m&m's and only 1% were poison.... how many would you eat?Attachment 160908 My simple little refugee analogy!

I would eat all of them, every single one because I wouldn't want the poisoned one to feel left out or bad about itself. I know it's going to kill me but I don't want to be called racist for avoiding certain m&m's.

[bethdoth]

I would eat all of them, every single one because I wouldn't want the poisoned one to feel left out or bad about itself. I know it's going to kill me but I don't want to be called racist for avoiding certain m&m's.

I sure hope that statement was dripping with sarcasm!

[Metalject]

I sure hope that statement was dripping with sarcasm!

I would hope so too, because if it wasn't that would make me every bit as insane as every left wing progressive ideologue in the country, which is basically a nice way of saying someone is a mentally deranged retarded idiot.

[Euroholic]

trump has to win the GOP nomination first.

i plan on voting for him given the nomination, he doesn't have to answer to all the donors who give millions of dollars in campaign money for favors

He just seems to have a back bone.he Is not afraid to offend people. He knows the threats of the modern world. The world will be a better place with his finger on the button

[wmaousley]

If there were 10,000 m&m's and only 1% were poison.... how many would you eat?Attachment 160908 My simple little refugee analogy!

Not a single M&M

[RaginCajun]

article on Migrants REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve

[Bonaparte]

article on Migrants REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve

Right...because that doesn't look at all like a conspiracy/propaganda article...
And its amazing how these victims knew the nationalist and citizenship status of all their assailants at a glance. And could tell that it was only the immigrants committing crimes, while the poor white Germans fled in terror...

[RaginCajun]

Right...because that doesn't look at all like a conspiracy/propaganda article... And its amazing how these victims knew the nationalist and citizenship status of all their assailants at a glance. And could tell that it was only the immigrants committing crimes, while the poor white Germans fled in terror...

I definitely agree with you on that but if they weren't there would it have happened?

[Bonaparte]

I definitely agree with you on that but if they weren't there would it have happened?

I doubt it happened at all. And if it did, how would we know whether the mob was comprised of immigrants or not?

[RaginCajun]

I doubt it happened at all. And if it did, how would we know whether the mob was comprised of immigrants or not?

Touché

[wmaousley]

article on Migrants REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve

Well if any of you have been to Germany then you will know that that Germany has a major problem with Turkish gangs. In this video the only language I can make out is Turkish. Not sure how accurate the article is in reference to "Rape" but in Germany Turkish people are and have been a major problem for Germany.

US Soldiers stationed in Germany use the Turks as punching bags. These douchebags love to come into bars and nightclubs in Germany and try to fight any "White Person" they see and it usually ends with the Turk making a trip to the ER via Ambulance.

These are not Syrians at all.

[Trapology]

Theres way too many websites posting BS propaganda its terrible

[Metalject]

How would we know if it's immigrants or not? Well, if they're not Euro whites and we're talking about Germany then the probability of them being a Middle-Eastern lunatic is extremely high...more than a 90% probability. Further, being that Merkel and the rest of her absolute insane, delusional government have stated they will allow another million of these people into Germany, again this makes the probability high. Does that guarantee it, no. Does that mean the whole story is propaganda, no, sensationalized perhaps, to a degree.

[Euroholic]

How would we know if it's immigrants or not? Well, if they're not Euro whites and we're talking about Germany then the probability of them being a Middle-Eastern lunatic is extremely high...more than a 90% probability. Further, being that Merkel and the rest of her absolute insane, delusional government have stated they will allow another million of these people into Germany, again this makes the probability high. Does that guarantee it, no. Does that mean the whole story is propaganda, no, sensationalized perhaps, to a degree.

I was just thinking that it is quite easy to tell(roughly) just by looking at someone if they are a local or not.


I support a multiracial society but not a multicultural society .

[RaginCajun]

more middle eastern men caught!

"Military age men" at San Diego's southern border | San Diego Reader

[RaginCajun]

welp, can't say this wouldn't happen

Two Mideast refugees arrested on terror charges appearing in US courts | Fox News