JIHAD - in Cali?

[RaginCajun]

I am sure everyone is hearing about the horrific shooting that took place yesterday in California, thoughts and prayers go out to all of the families involved.

It happened in a gun free zone.

Seems that they had a plan and had a house with dozens of IEDs. Reports are that the male was radicalized in Saudi Arabia in 2013.

Of course, the media was reluctant to call it a 'terrorist' attack at first.

[noon]

Absolutely a sad ordeal it seams that these events are becoming far to often. And I feel that it's going to get much worse. The people I work with are talking about this a lot and no one seems to have a great solution.
How do you fight the hidden threats that are intertwined inside of our own communities ?

[Metalject]

My "favorite" thing about this is how many idiots tend to say this doesn't happen anywhere in the world except in the U.S. It was somewhat mind blowing that the president himself said this as he was standing in Paris only weeks after a mass shooting. Here's a good chart that shows the breakdown of reality:



If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings – One Thing Jumps Out

The first thing that stands out to me is that the top 5, 4 are socialist countries and all on the list have strict gun control - most countries outlaw them. Doesn't seem to be helping. And while the U.S. is 6th on the list, considering its population is enormously greater than all others and more diverse culturally, in my opinion that says a lot.

And no, regardless of the facts of this incident, when they come out fully, the media and current administration will never call it islamic terrorism even if it is blatantly. They can't say it and won't.

[noon]

Well said
That chart is perfect
I still believe that having more armed knowledgable citizens of the law abiding type is the best thing for society.
And I have been advocating that local school teachers Cary concealed. If they choose to of course .
Schools are easy targets for any terrorist looking to make a statement. We have taken part in training a lot people who wish to have the option to protect themselves and any one near them.

[Darkness]

Time to buy more guns!!! I've been looking into a new 1911 pistol, and been debating either getting a single stack or double stack magazine. I guess 14 rounds of .45 look a lot better than 8 after all these shootings now.

[noon]

Just picked up a glock 27 it fits in an ankle holster.
I honest to god hope I never need it to protect my family.
Buts it's always there

[Igifuno]

Just picked up a glock 27 it fits in an ankle holster. I honest to god hope I never need it to protect my family. Buts it's always there

Got fingerprinted and background check done. Need to do my 4 hour safety course and should be all set.

[noon]

Got fingerprinted and background check done. Need to do my 4 hour safety course and should be all set.

That's great man I'm glad to hear it .
Have weapon in mind. ?
Carry conceal ?

[Igifuno]

That's great man I'm glad to hear it . Have weapon in mind. ? Carry conceal ?

I'm in the "great" state of MD so LTC is a little more complex. Going to get permit first and then work on conceal carry. I already have a 320 pump 12g and no license needed so I have home protection, but the girls can't handle it.

So I'd like to get a .380. I really like it and I think the wife and kids could handle it as well.

[Hazard]

I have my Firearms ID card - need a hand gun permit in jersey before I can purchase one. Takes the chief around 3 months to sign off on it.

Lookin to get a .40 glock

I also want the Kel-Tec shotgun for home protection

[Igifuno]

I have my Firearms ID card - need a hand gun permit in jersey before I can purchase one. Takes the chief around 3 months to sign off on it. Lookin to get a .40 glock I also want the Kel-Tec shotgun for home protection

NJ and MD are pretty similar with how stringent their gun laws. It's pretty ridiculous.

Kel Tec is crazy bad ass.

[Igifuno]

Two barrels and 6+1.

[noon]

Ulster county sheriffs department in NY is telling people that have permits to carry your weapon and be vigilant to dangers around you.

[Igifuno]

Ulster county sheriffs department in NY is telling people that have permits to carry your weapon and be vigilant to dangers around you.

Kind of ironic that it's one of the most gun restrictive states, but that's good, and maybe a step in the right direction.

[Moonjumper]

I'm in the "great" state of MD so LTC is a little more complex. Going to get permit first and then work on conceal carry. I already have a 320 pump 12g and no license needed so I have home protection, but the girls can't handle it.

So I'd like to get a .380. I really like it and I think the wife and kids could handle it as well.

How close are you to Baltimore? I've a great contact there that is fantastic with training and knowledge. Former IDF and most of his company is current or former IDF guys. Great hand to hand stuff as well if you and yours are interested in it.

[noon]

Ya I know.
I believe that this is what is necessary to stop the mass murders and threats of terrorism. If you wanna die for your cause I want to help you.
Think it over please.
If the bad guys have no idea who's packing heat. They might just decide to stay the **** home and behave. And if the bad guys walk in where they don't belong and pull a weapon the first armed citizen that sees him draws aims and kills that person tragedy averted

[noon]

[QUOTE=Moonjumper;7129027]How close are you to Baltimore? I've a great contact there that is fantastic with training and knowledge. Former IDF and most of his company is current or former IDF guys. Great hand to hand stuff as well if you and yours are interested in

Never mind
Started new thread

[Moonjumper]

[QUOTE=noon;7129029]

How close are you to Baltimore? I've a great contact there that is fantastic with training and knowledge. Former IDF and most of his company is current or former IDF guys. Great hand to hand stuff as well if you and yours are interested in

Never mind
Started new thread

PM sent

[Euroholic]

I want to know if this was their intended target or did old mate lose his temper

[Moonjumper]

I want to know if this was their intended target or did old mate lose his temper

Likely never truly know. Be opinions for years unless they left a letter.

[numbere]

Time to buy more guns!!! I've been looking into a new 1911 pistol, and been debating either getting a single stack or double stack magazine. I guess 14 rounds of .45 look a lot better than 8 after all these shootings now.

!911s only accept single stacked mags. 2011s use a double stacked mag but are too big a heavy to carry all day. They were originally intended for target shooting.

Lookin to get a .40 glock

I also want the Kel-Tec shotgun for home protection

You're better off getting a pistol chambered in 9mm. Shot placement is more important than bore size. 9mm ammo is less expensive so you can practice more often. Plus it has less recoil making it more pleasant to shoot and follow up shots faster.

Everything Kel-Tec makes is a POS. Their firearms look awesome in pictures but don't deliver in real life. Look into Remington 1100s. Gas operated shotguns have much less perceived recoil than a pump shotguns. Plus you never have to worry about short stroking an autoloading shotgun when in a defensive situation.

[Igifuno]

. If you wanna die for your cause I want to help you. Think it over please.

^^ This. ^^

[noon]

!911s only accept single stacked mags. 2011s use a double stacked mag but are too big a heavy to carry all day. They were originally intended for target shooting.




You're better off getting a pistol chambered in 9mm. Shot placement is more important than bore size. 9mm ammo is less expensive so you can practice more often. Plus it has less recoil making it more pleasant to shoot and follow up shots faster.

Everything Kel-Tec makes is a POS. Their firearms look awesome in pictures but don't deliver in real life. Look into Remington 1100s. Gas operated shotguns have much less perceived recoil than a pump shotguns. Plus you never have to worry about short stroking an autoloading shotgun when in a defensive situation.

45 Acp
Is a fine weapon to Cary every day
Practice with what ever weapon you choose and you will be quite effective with it.
Don't just shoot paper practice left and right hand
Under and over objects.
Practice pulling from where ever you conceal your weapon.

[kelkel]

So I'd like to get a .380. I really like it and I think the wife and kids could handle it as well.

I picked up a Ruger 380 LCP a few years ago. Small, compact and easy to carry either on an ankle or inside the belt line. Got a couple Glocks as well (22 & 23) but don't carry them.

[numbere]

45 Acp
Is a fine weapon to Cary every day
Practice with what ever weapon you choose and you will be quite effective with it.
Don't just shoot paper practice left and right hand
Under and over objects.
Practice pulling from where ever you conceal your weapon.

45 acp is a great round but it's more expensive than 9 mm even if you reload. The cheaper the ammo the more you can practice. Plus carrying a 1911 all day is a workout. I'd rather carry a lighter pistol with 16 rounds over a heavier one with only 8.

My glock 19 loaded with 16 124 gr rounds is 30.7 Oz. My Kimber Custom II is 38 Oz without a magazine.

I picked up a Ruger 380 LCP a few years ago. Small, compact and easy to carry either on an ankle or inside the belt line. Got a couple Glocks as well (22 & 23) but don't carry them.

An LCP with a lasermax is a nice package. I got one for my sister to carry.

[Igifuno]

I picked up a Ruger 380 LCP a few years ago. Small, compact and easy to carry either on an ankle or inside the belt line. Got a couple Glocks as well (22 & 23) but don't carry them.

It's been my favorite out of all I've tried. I went to the range with a friend over the summer and he brought all kinds. .22, .380, .44 (holy hand cannon), and even an SAS with a collapsable stock (that was fun). I brought my 12g which is a Stevens model 320 pump with a pistol grip.

I'll have to check out the ruger.

[kelkel]

An LCP with a lasermax is a nice package.

Looks nice! May have to pick one up asap.

https://www.lasermax.com/products/ce...-lasers/cf-lcp

[numbere]

Looks nice! May have to pick one up asap.

LaserLyte makes one for the LCP that's mounted on the side of the frame. It's less bulky and about half the price of the lasermax. I've mounted a few but have no real world experience and can't vouch. The lasermax is completely bomb proof.

Amazon.com : Laserlyte Side Mount Laser for Ruger LCP : Sports & Outdoors

[kelkel]

Looks nice! May have to pick one up asap.

https://www.lasermax.com/products/ce...-lasers/cf-lcp

I'll edit to say I just ordered it off of Amazon. That was easy.


Question: I'd like to hear some recommendations for a gun safe to house 3-4 pistols and ammo. I was at Cabela's today and couldn't settle on one....

[Hazard]

I'll edit to say I just ordered it off of Amazon. That was easy. Question: I'd like to hear some recommendations for a gun safe to house 3-4 pistols and ammo. I was at Cabela's today and couldn't settle on one....

I was going to stop there. The one in PA (largest in America) - I was driving home from igi's. The gps took me a different route and kept me further south. I caught it too late and wasn't about to turn around only for the fiancé to tell me I can't buy anything :-/

[numbere]

I'd like to hear some recommendations for a gun safe to house 3-4 pistols and ammo. I was at Cabela's today and couldn't settle on one....

IMO biometric and electronic safes are a waste of money. Get a dial lock that fits your budget and bolt it to the floor.

I was going to stop there. The one in PA (largest in America) - I was driving home from igi's. The gps took me a different route and kept me further south. I caught it too late and wasn't about to turn around only for the fiancé to tell me I can't buy anything :-/

That store is like Disneyland for adults lol. There's and elk mounted there that my old man got in Yellowstone.

[Hazard]

IMO biometric and electronic safes are a waste of money. Get a dial lock that fits your budget and bolt it to the floor. That store is like Disneyland for adults lol. There's and elk mounted there that my old man got in Yellowstone.

I've only been a few times but damn it's HUGE! The restaurant up top had a buffet going the one time. I had to be rolled outa there lol

[numbere]

I've only been a few times but damn it's HUGE! The restaurant up top had a buffet going the one time. I had to be rolled outa there lol

Haha too funny! I'm not surprised. Everything about that place is over the top.

[kelkel]

IMO biometric and electronic safes are a waste of money. Get a dial lock that fits your budget and bolt it to the floor.

Yes, I hear nothing but bad reports on biometric's, etc.

[numbere]

Yes, I hear nothing but bad reports on biometric's, etc.

They're great for keeping small kids out but not much else because the
locking mechanisms commonly used are cheap. They can easily be opened with a pry bar or by simply dropping them on the floor. They're nice when used on a hidden wall safe. I have one in my foyer that looks like a painting.

[lovbyts]

Ive been watching the news and once again they are blowing some thing WAY out of proportion. I hate it when they say someone had an arsenal of weapons and ammo. They are making a big deal out of 2000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 of .223 and 1500 rounds of long rifle (probably 22) ammo. Thats not all that much or expensive. I wish they would just stick to facts and stop blowing things out of proportion.

[Igifuno]

Ive been watching the news and once again they are blowing some thing WAY out of proportion. I hate it when they say someone had an arsenal of weapons and ammo. They are making a big deal out of 2000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 of .223 and 1500 rounds of long rifle (probably 22) ammo. Thats not all that much or expensive. I wish they would just stick to facts and stop blowing things out of proportion.

As always, the media is going to spin whatever jacked up perspective they want to spew on the masses to feed off the tragedy.

[RaginCajun]

Ive been watching the news and once again they are blowing some thing WAY out of proportion. I hate it when they say someone had an arsenal of weapons and ammo. They are making a big deal out of 2000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 of .223 and 1500 rounds of long rifle (probably 22) ammo. Thats not all that much or expensive. I wish they would just stick to facts and stop blowing things out of proportion.

Yeah no shyt!

I keep that many rounds under my pillow

[numbere]

Ive been watching the news and once again they are blowing some thing WAY out of proportion. I hate it when they say someone had an arsenal of weapons and ammo. They are making a big deal out of 2000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 of .223 and 1500 rounds of long rifle (probably 22) ammo. Thats not all that much or expensive. I wish they would just stick to facts and stop blowing things out of proportion.

Imagine their faces if the ever saw Jerry Miculek's basement lol.

It also kills me how they are reporting that the firearms used were purchased legally. Yeah they were, but it was a straw purchase from another state and they were illegally modified. If an average citizen had one of those rifles they would have been charged with a dozen felonies.

[noon]

Imagine their faces if the ever saw Jerry Miculek's basement lol.

It also kills me how they are reporting that the firearms used were purchased legally. Yeah they were, but it was a straw purchase from another state and they were illegally modified. If an average citizen had one of those rifles they would have been charged with a dozen felonies.

That's awsome.
Has any one had there hands on a Curve.