Crime.

[stocky121]

I’m wondering what everyone thinks of there country’s view on crime is it to lenient? Or to harsh?

I personally think the crime in the uk is getting out of hand, there’s not enough deterrence for people.

[teedoff]

Way too lenient here in the US. Since blm, it's even worse. Now cities and Leos are hesitant, and I believe instructed, to enforce some laws for fear of law suits and declared racists. We have much more theft in the form of just blatant smash and grap, videos of persons just filling up buggies and walking out of the stores. While owners and citizens stand by and watch.

In my small town, we don't even pull people over for traffic violations anymore. Kids on 4 wheelers and dirt bikes running wild on public streets at night has become more frequent. People on cell phones while driving. Running stoplights.

[stocky121]

I hear you man, they done the same over here. Anything under £200 and it’s just fine, that they won’t even pay.

Over here if someone is breaking into your house. You have to feel threatened and only then can you use reasonable force. And even then if I put a hammer or a knife on my bedside table it could be likely they would say it was premeditated.

[teedoff]

I hear you man, they done the same over here. Anything under £200 and it’s just fine, that they won’t even pay.

Over here if someone is breaking into your house. You have to feel threatened and only then can you use reasonable force. And even then if I put a hammer or a knife on my bedside table it could be likely they would say it was premeditated.

For now....and I say that hesitantly, we here can still defend ourselves from home break ins. Many states have stand your ground laws or castle doctrine, which means an individual has the right to use deadly force to defend your own life, home, family, or any personal space like workplace or your car.

I fully expect that to change at some point. Maybe not in what's left of my life, but it will change. And to be honest, depending on what kind of judge and or prosecutor, I wouldn't bet a person wouldn't be charged and convicted defended themselves now. It's happened already in many cases in other more leftist states.

[stocky121]

For now....and I say that hesitantly, we here can still defend ourselves from home break ins. Many states have stabd your ground laws or castle doctrine, which means an individual has the right to use deadly force to defend your own life, home, family, or any personal space like workplace or your car.

I fully expect that to change at some point. Maybe not in what's left of my life, but it will change. And to be honest, depending on what kind of judge and or prosecutor, I wouldn't bet a person wouldn't be charged and convicted defended themselves now. It's happened already in many cases in other more leftist states.

I have a hunting knife in my camping bag as a last resort. But they are trying to ban knife sales, they have already started with some. I can understand why because knife crime over here is crazy at the minute.
Only last year in my city a 18 year old boy got stabbed 20 times and parts of his body cut off, by his friends over a £20 drug debt.
That’s where we are at, that £20 is the cost of a human life.

[Honkey_Kong]

This country has fucked up laws in most states and federally. They punish crimes where the state is the "victim" (IE drug crimes) way too much and actual violent crimes are not punished enough. And then there's the double standard of sentences between women and men. And don't forget all the gun laws that keep guns out of law abiding citizens' hands, but still in the hands of the criminals.

[Davi Meireles]

I’m wondering what everyone thinks of there country’s view on crime is it to lenient? Or to harsh?

I personally think the crime in the uk is getting out of hand, there’s not enough deterrence for people.

Welcome to Brazil ! This is where crime pays! Lmao

[stocky121]

Welcome to Brazil ! This is where crime pays! Lmao

That’s sad Davi. Do you think harsher punishments would help decrease crime in Brazil?

[Davi Meireles]

That’s sad Davi. Do you think harsher punishments would help decrease crime in Brazil?

The problem with crime in Brazil is that there are many politicians who finance the Cartels Brazilians. To give you an idea, one of the ministers of Brazil's supreme court released one of the most dangerous drug traffickers from a Brazilian cartel...

[Davi Meireles]

. Do you think harsher punishments would help decrease crime in Brazil?

The only way to minimize crime in Brazil would be to make it easier for ordinary citizens to carry weapons, and to provide sufficient judicial protection so that police officers are not punished or expelled. of the police when he killed a vagrant. Many police officers in Brazil are punished by the internal affairs department and "Human Rights "Oops Bros Manos"!

In my view, crime decreases with the same level of aggression that criminals provide...

[stocky121]

The problem with crime in Brazil is that there are many politicians who finance the Cartels Brazilians. To give you an idea, one of the ministers of Brazil's supreme court released one of the most dangerous drug traffickers from a Brazilian cartel...

All politicians are corrupt. Ours just syphon off tax money to their donors and friends.

[Davi Meireles]

All politicians are corrupt. Ours just syphon off tax money to their donors and friends.

yes they only think about making money in any way

That's why I say drug trafficking will never be fought by the political sphere, behind it they make millions of money

[Davi Meireles]

Ah, to add that being a police officer in Brazil is hell, there are no days off; because cartels hunt cops like heavily armed rats. They can't even take out their pistols when they see several AR 15s strafing the gates of their houses. I tell you that to be a police officer in Brazil you have to be a crazy guy, really crazy; the war doesn't stop! In Rio de Janeiro there are favelas where there are fully armed criminals who live in a kind of crazy sect ready to die and face the police until the bullet runs out, many even manage to shoot down police helicopters; In São Paulo, where I live, the cartels are more organized, they buy the political sphere, which is why politicians are part of São Paulo organizations. It is also common for São Paulo cartels to buy Majors, Colonels and the entire damn São Paulo police force. If you live in Brazil you will see on every corner a drug trafficking point where the police don't go. And also routine thefts of cell phones, pendants, watches, whatever. Even though I grew up in a peripheral region, I need to use tricks to survive and escape these robberies, I always carry a backpack on my front, never on my back, this prevents theft... Never carry a simple "iPhone" cell phone or anything of value, just that. it will avoid attracting the attention of criminals... I almost had my arm cut off by a knife when I exchanged punches with a son of a bitch who asked me for my cell phone. I broke a beer bottle that was on the street over his head. And thanks to that bottle, I managed to knock that Knife out of his hand. I've always hated criminals. A few years ago I was about to take the exam to become a police officer in my state, but when I discovered what was going on behind it I gave up; there is friendly fire from the police officers who work alongside them, all because they were bought by the cartels. These are the same motherfuckers who leak information about cartel blacklisted cops so they can kill the cops on their doorstep. In Brazil there are many elite troops that have instructional training. “Commandos” are police officers specialized in urban combat and guerrilla warfare, this is perhaps the greatest specialty of the Brazilian police; as they sometimes confront cartel members with a .50 caliber machine gun. It was no surprise that the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Haiti was successful by the Brazilian Army Commandos. Haiti was going through hell before Brazilian military forces set foot there. It was the famous guerrilla war. Brazil quickly pacified Haiti; for facing a very similar scenario of everyday war in Brazil

[lovbyts]

Let me put it this way. Crime and Lack of consequences in the US have gotten so bad that even hard core liberals are starting to take notice and complain. Its reached out the the suburbs bad enough that it cant be ignored anymore. We have Daily multiple fakebook post/complaints on our community page of shoplifters walking out with arm loads or cart loads of clothing, alcohol or other items that are easily sold online and they dont even run or try to hide it anymore.

Thankfully recently people have started to step up and confront them and we have started a non official, non sanctioned sign up list or people who have confirmed if they see something they will Do something, not just video or look the other way.

No one is telling them to commit violence or risk their welfare, just say something. Me on the other hand I have been saying for the last couple of years this is why I carry pepper jel spray most everywhere and I'm not afraid to use it. I'm not dumb enough to stick around and wait for police either. Spray and keep walking, leave and if questioned, deny deny deny... I nice sharp pocket knife does wonders to deter get away cars from leaving.

No Im not worried about someone having a gun, they have their arms full with clothes/contraband so its not like they have on in their hand and MOST aren't going to carry a gun because having a weapon makes the crime 10x worse if they get caught. Im also not planning on sticking around to give them time to figure out who to target because they are going to be busy literally crying their eyes out.

Our prosecutors where I live are not doing their job and admit they are letting over 90% of the more minor criminals walk free. If you are not a rapist, murderer or Trump supporter they dont care. Nothing is going to change until we clean house and get rid of the current regime.

[JTP$]

I’m wondering what everyone thinks of there country’s view on crime is it to lenient? Or to harsh?

I personally think the crime in the uk is getting out of hand, there’s not enough deterrence for people.

i am vaguely aware of crime in the UK, being that violent attacks are supposedly on the rise. i know that in the US violent crime is definitely on the rise, and you are right, there is no deterrence. i believe this is for a reason though, in that the current political system finds it more profitable to let society rot so they can use it as an excuse to tax us more, increase govt surveillance and slowly take away all of our rights.

[XnavyHMCS]

I'm retired US servicemember (I know, "thank you for your CERVIX."), living in Central Europe. The crime rate here is really low; I mean like 3 murders a year, in the city closest to me. Its just way safer out here; plain and simple.

WTF is going on with this surge in the "flash mob" 5 finger discount shopping sprees in the States? I watched that all unfold, from abroad, and I couldn't believe my eyes...

Bring back public fucking executions and corporal punishment. You start surgically removing some of these thieves appendages, chopping off some dicks of rapists, and you'll see the mother fucking crime rates decline. Fuck longer sentences. We will now just put you under general anesthesia and surgically amputate your dominant hand... Have a good life. Then crime would take a fucking nose dive (IMO).

[JTP$]

I hear you man, they done the same over here. Anything under £200 and it’s just fine, that they won’t even pay.

Over here if someone is breaking into your house. You have to feel threatened and only then can you use reasonable force. And even then if I put a hammer or a knife on my bedside table it could be likely they would say it was premeditated.

i find it absolutely appalling that we have a system in place which would screw over a law abiding citizen for premeditated violent crime if they keep a hammer next to their bed. it got me thinking though, one would have a difficult time explaining why they have a hammer in their bed room as most people dont keep hammers in the bed room. but you could keep a weight set in your bed room. two marcy grip 5 lb plates would be pretty effective at deterring a home invader, especially if youre a trained boxer. either that or a short barbell which would give one the ability to strike with longer range. it would be even better if you trained with this by wrapping a few towels around one end of it and practicing on a punching bag. just dont ever tell anyone thats what youre doing.

I'm retired US servicemember (I know, "thank you for your CERVIX."), living in Central Europe. The crime rate here is really low; I mean like 3 murders a year, in the city closest to me. Its just way safer out here; plain and simple.

WTF is going on with this surge in the "flash mob" 5 finger discount shopping sprees in the States? I watched that all unfold, from abroad, and I couldn't believe my eyes...

Bring back public fucking executions and corporal punishment. You start surgically removing some of these thieves appendages, chopping off some dicks of rapists, and you'll see the mother fucking crime rates decline. Fuck longer sentences. We will now just put you under general anesthesia and surgically amputate your dominant hand... Have a good life. Then crime would take a fucking nose dive (IMO).

i watched an interesting documentary yesterday that explains some of the crap thats going on in san francisco. towards the middle of this, the reporter interviews several of the guys involved in the organized smash/snatch and runs that have been happening. hearing what those guys have to say will probably piss you off...

they also mentioned one of the major sources of fentanyl, being Honduras illegal immigrants, brought to the US by the cartels and working as drug dealers on the streets of SF. apparently the police know exactly who these people are but wont do anything about it, possibly out of fear for cartel retaliation