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    Exclamation Trump and his lawyers

    Fucking hell.

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    What?

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    Can I ask you a question? Lol How can you post more shit than me on the forum? Haha
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    Are you American Kimbo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Are you American Kimbo?
    He’s from the uk Davi
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    I've been watching Trump's lawyer on YouTube standing outside the court giving a press conference.

    Imagine having absolutely no conscience like that, having no integrity. . . just doing what you need to do to get through life. Human sewerage.
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    What exactly has his lawyers done to warrant such a judgement?

    While i dislike trump the person, I very much like his policies and the results of those policies. His charges and trials are pretty much a nazi type ploy to keep him from running again. Most of the charges, particularly surrounding the the Jan 6th insurrection(invitation), as they were decidedly let in unencumbered, has been shown to be bogus and the da is completely politically biased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    I've been watching Trump's lawyer on YouTube standing outside the court giving a press conference.

    Imagine having absolutely no conscience like that, having no integrity. . . just doing what you need to do to get through life. Human sewerage.
    You can't even want to meddle in American politics, because you're not an American citizen and I'm not either, we don't have the fucking right to have an opinion on other people's countries! Lol.. You are criticizing Trump when 80% of Americans support him

    You want to blame Donald Trump but American citizens themselves were responsible for their actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    You can't even want to meddle in American politics, because you're not an American citizen and I'm not either, we don't have the fucking right to have an opinion on other people's countries! Lol.. You are criticizing Trump when 80% of Americans support him

    You want to blame Donald Trump but American citizens themselves were responsible for their actions
    You absolutely have the right to an opinion. We just might ignore it, or disagree with it, or take issue with it lol!

    Seriously, constructive conversation is great. Sadly, political discussion frequently turns into "I know you are but what am I??!?!" lunacy, at least in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    What exactly has his lawyers done to warrant such a judgement?

    While i dislike trump the person, I very much like his policies and the results of those policies. His charges and trials are pretty much a nazi type ploy to keep him from running again. Most of the charges, particularly surrounding the the Jan 6th insurrection(invitation), as they were decidedly let in unencumbered, has been shown to be bogus and the da is completely politically biased.
    Let me go on record as saying this clearly: If I'm ever charged on anything, I want the baddest, dirtiest, pit fighting'est, most ruthless mf'er on the planet as my attorney.

    All of y'all should, too.

    That is all I have to say about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    You absolutely have the right to an opinion. We just might ignore it, or disagree with it, or take issue with it lol!

    Seriously, constructive conversation is great. Sadly, political discussion frequently turns into "I know you are but what am I??!?!" lunacy,
    at least in the US.
    True, that's why we have had so many discussions go off the rails, locked, archived, etc.
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    Yup, I have no problem with someone having an opinion. Even from other countries. Isnt that one of the great things about America. We're so free, we even allow other country's citizens to have their own opinions.

    But given who started this thread, and all things considered, its a stupid fact less opinion to voice.

    And yes, I agree about having the dirtiest, smartest attorney I can afford!
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    I think a foreigner from the outside doesn't know the internal problems that a nation faces behind what the media says... The media is leftist and also against firearms! You take two presidents like Donald Trump and Jair Messias Bolsonaro of Brazil; They are almost treated as if they were the same person.A foreigner reads or watches the newspaper and thinks it is true, ignoring thousands of citizens who support the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    You absolutely have the right to an opinion. We just might ignore it, or disagree with it, or take issue with it lol!

    Seriously, constructive conversation is great. Sadly, political discussion frequently turns into "I know you are but what am I??!?!" lunacy, at least in the US.
    I agree with cy, we can all have an opinion. Obviously we can only gauge our opinion on social media or main stream media. Our American brothers will have much broader and deeper understanding, the same as us in our respective country’s.

    And by my limited knowledge, trump would get my vote over Biden all day. But again that’s my opinion and I might be way off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    I agree with cy, we can all have an opinion. Obviously we can only gauge our opinion on social media or main stream media. Our American brothers will have much broader and deeper understanding, the same as us in our respective country’s.

    And by my limited knowledge, trump would get my vote over Biden all day. But again that’s my opinion and I might be way off.
    I would also vote for Donald Trump if I were an American citizen, but that's just me. I am completely in favor of firearms and facilitation for citizens
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    Invasion of the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Now see the invasion of Congress in Brazil on January 8, 2023. Why the hell did these acts happen? Because there was facilitation and manipulation on the part of Biden and Lula. Both sponsored the events! It could very well with all the intelligence services they have to prevent the attacks. But they are smart and know that they would sell more when "EXTREMISTS INVADE THE CAPITOL" or "DONALD TRUMP SOUTH AMERICAN INCITES invasion of Congress in Brazil" came out in the media. “BOLSONARO HAS HIS POLITICAL RIGHTS REVOKED.”



    You can be sure that many of the invaders of the US and Brazilian Capitol were Fake Citizens. THEY WENT there and said I'm pro Donald Trump, oh, I'm pro Bolsonaro, and we're going to break everything! That's it, that's what matters to the media!

    So the result of all this is a guy like Kimbo talking about something that he didn't know everything about.
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    I'm not going to lie, I would like to have a lawyer like the one who defends Donald Trump, the legal world is dirty; If you do not have a qualified lawyer for your defense, they will launch several false crimes against you.
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    Just wait until Trumps president again there's going to be a lot of people crying.

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    There’s a big difference between being an aggressive defense attorney as compared to being classless and disrespectful.
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    These legal cases against trump are classless, baseless and shameful. This is a witch hunt. It’s failing fyi.
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    Well if that’s the case; this lawyer in particular is doing a great job of showing that she can outdo them & indicate to the citizens that the client that she represents & is running for the POTUS approves of such behavior (good strategy for winning votes?).

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    They’ve being trying to convict the Don of something for 8 years now. It’s blatantly obvious they dont want this man in power.

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    As I’m thinking this thread may be destined to be closed down, I’d like to state for the record that this thread was supposed to be about Trumps lawyers. I’ve done that. I don’t want to be responsible for this thread taking a detour towards more hotly divisive topics. Peace. In all sincerity - May God bless America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Invasion of the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Now see the invasion of Congress in Brazil on January 8, 2023. Why the hell did these acts happen? Because there was facilitation and manipulation on the part of Biden and Lula. Both sponsored the events! It could very well with all the intelligence services they have to prevent the attacks. But they are smart and know that they would sell more when "EXTREMISTS INVADE THE CAPITOL" or "DONALD TRUMP SOUTH AMERICAN INCITES invasion of Congress in Brazil" came out in the media. “BOLSONARO HAS HIS POLITICAL RIGHTS REVOKED.”



    You can be sure that many of the invaders of the US and Brazilian Capitol were Fake Citizens. THEY WENT there and said I'm pro Donald Trump, oh, I'm pro Bolsonaro, and we're going to break everything! That's it, that's what matters to the media!

    So the result of all this is a guy like Kimbo talking about something that he didn't know everything about.

    Yeah, the whole Jan 6 thing was blown way out of proportion in order to overlook actual problems..we all know it. I for one would be all for a clean sweep of our government. Theyve made it impossible without term limits in congress they know what they are doing.

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    As long as there are no personal insults exchanged, let's see how the thread progresses.

    It's on a fine line now, but as long as it maintains like this we'll let it go a little longer.
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    Alright then, since we have approval to delve into political matters and the thread has been detoured to other subjects. Thought I’d add some levity.
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    Trump was seen “smirking” as the gag order was over turned. Im sure the DA was not happy about this at all. In fact, I would like to wish my condolences upon her feelings. Actually no, idgaf about her feelings who am I kidding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Trump was seen “smirking” as the gag order was over turned. Im sure the DA was not happy about this at all. In fact, I would like to wish my condolences upon her feelings. Actually no, idgaf about her feelings who am I kidding
    As the DA's feelings are of no consequence to the diameter of your upper arm, I can see how you would be ambivalent to her plight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Kimbo View Post
    As the DA's feelings are of no consequence to the diameter of your upper arm, I can see how you would be ambivalent to her plight.
    Hows that shoulder coming along Kimbo? Im thinking of having surgery myself. Im going to try to learn as much from you guys (you and Niceguyresearcher) about shoulder tendon repair as I can. I believe while im at it ill fix my medial epicondalitis in my forearm.

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    Hows that shoulder coming along Kimbo? Im thinking of having surgery myself. Im going to try to learn as much from you guys (you and Niceguyresearcher) about shoulder tendon repair as I can. I believe while im at it ill fix my medial epicondalitis in my forearm.
    I had shoulder surgery 3 years ago myself. Almost completely torn bicep head tendon and a tear in my subscapularis tendon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I had shoulder surgery 3 years ago myself. Almost completely torn bicep head tendon and a tear in my subscapularis tendon.
    Yeah man Im really not wanting to bc being out of the game for 6 months im gonna lose so much size but eventually it’s gonna have to happen im afraid.

    Did you have a freak accident or did it buildup over time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I had shoulder surgery 3 years ago myself. Almost completely torn bicep head tendon and a tear in my subscapularis tendon.
    Just curious if you don’t mind?

    *Your age.
    *The degree/percentage the surgeon said your supraspinatus was torn.
    *Your rehab protocol.
    *How long before returning to moderate weights.
    *How you’re doing now?

    I think it would be valuable information for a LOT of the guys here in their 20’s - 40’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Just curious if you don’t mind?

    *Your age.
    *The degree/percentage the surgeon said your supraspinatus was torn.
    *Your rehab protocol.
    *How long before returning to moderate weights.
    *How you’re doing now?

    I think it would be valuable information for a LOT of the guys here in their 20’s - 40’s.
    This ^^^. Love it when you delve into this stuff Wango.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    This ^^^. Love it when you delve into this stuff Wango.
    Thanks Kel. Rotator cuff surgery has come a long way from when I first became a therapist. Regrettably, when I first tore mine, the surgeries required far longer down time & chances for success were less, particularly long term. So I never fixed them & learned to live with the pain & train around it.

    Today, I feel if you are below 50, hell 60 depending on some variables, it’s neglectful if you don’t get it done, particularly if you want to train till you die.

    Hope you’re well, your appearances are scarce these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Yeah man Im really not wanting to bc being out of the game for 6 months im gonna lose so much size but eventually it’s gonna have to happen im afraid.

    Did you have a freak accident or did it buildup over time?
    Well im no where near as big as you. At the time of my surgery, i'd just lost 65lbs after being back in the gym for about 4 months. Hadnt lifted weights for about 15 years because of my shoulder issues.

    No, just i guess years of working in furniture....working out previously probably all wrong, but I seem to have a pre disposition to tear tendons. Tore my left bicep head completely back around 2000, then about 10 years ago, I tore a tendon in one of the smaller calf muscles. Neither one of those were repaired. And I have something going on with my left shoulder....a tear or maybe just arthritis i hope.

    But man, get it fixed. For me at least, the down time wasnt that bad. I was able to work out about 3 or 4 months after my surgery, just not shoulders. I took it easy, but before you know it, you'll be back better than before. I think about 6 months is right, but I still had pains every now and then when I moved my arm a certain way. Especially like reaching behind my back....still have limited mobility in both arms for that.

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    Just curious if you don’t mind?

    *Your age.
    *The degree/percentage the surgeon said your supraspinatus was torn.
    *Your rehab protocol.
    *How long before returning to moderate weights.
    *How you’re doing now?

    I think it would be valuable information for a LOT of the guys here in their 20’s - 40’s.
    I'm 58 now. I think my surgery was 2019 actually.. so longer than the 3 years i said before....

    The Dr thought my head tendon wasn't as bad until he got in there. He said it was just barely hanging on. I'm honestly not sure how bad the subscapularis tear was. I also had a couple bone spurs he took off and cleaned up some arthritis.

    I think my first follow up after surgery was about 3 weeks. Then I think I started rehab right after that. 10 sessions twice a week I believe. By week 6, I had pretty good forward and lateral shoulder movement, but behind the back was still no go. But I was riding my harley to rehab by around 2 months post. lol

    As mentioned above, I was back to moderately working out in 3 to 4 months minus shoulders. I also had to go easy on bi's and tri's and bench of course.

    By 6 months or so, I'd say I was 80% back to normal with only occasional episodes of some mild shooting pains when I pushed it too hard or tried to reach too far behind my back.

    It took nearly a year before those pains were no longer present.

    I'm doing better now, but I can imagine that I'll have issues in this same shoulder in the future again. I also have issues in my right shoulder now and has limited me on some specific shoulder exercises that i no longer can do. To the point that I'll probably have to stop doing shoulders all together in the next year or so, or perhaps limit to a few precise movements that dont bother me.

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    Thanks Kel. Rotator cuff surgery has come a long way from when I first became a therapist. Regrettably, when I first tore mine, the surgeries required far longer down time & chances for success were less, particularly long term. So I never fixed them & learned to live with the pain & train around it.

    Today, I feel if you are below 50, hell 60 depending on some variables, it’s neglectful if you don’t get it done, particularly if you want to train till you die.

    Hope you’re well, your appearances are scarce these days.
    They really have come a long ways. The reason I didnt have my left bicep repaired 24 years ago, was the surgeon said he felt I didnt loose much strength from the tear, and that I'd be left with a 6" scar down my arm. Fast forward to this surgery, they made three small incisions, gave me a nerve block, and it was done in a couple hours and most patients go home the same day. VERY little post surgery pain, I didnt take the hard stuff they gave me. but did take the duexis (ibuprophen with famotidine)

    Hope this helps. Let me know if I can add anything else.
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    Thank you Teedoff, that was great info.

    Our shoulders are so susceptible, you have to consider yourself really lucky if you can survive decades of training & not have serious issues.

    The beauty of this era is the quality of the surgeries, the less invasiveness, the reduced recovery time & the improved success rates. It really was more of a crap shoot when I started, but now it isn’t.

    Granted, the surgery is still a PITA, still requires down time & still requires a loss of muscle. But weighed against the capability of training your entire life; (and I can’t see anyone here getting to an age and just say “ok, I’m done now”) it’s great to hear success stories like yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Hope you’re well, your appearances are scarce these days.

    Yeah, life has been busy lately but I hope to get back on more regularly. Training going well but still just TRT for the last 1.5 years now due to an iron issue. Figuring it out and all the hospital blood dumps has prohibited me from adding any AAS to the game. Hopefully it's over soon and the BW slows down. It's such a see-saw balancing out iron, hemo and hema. Long story actually. Still hanging in there a little over 230lbs on just TRT so I can't really complain.

    I do have a question for you. What is your thoughts on PRP for a knee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yeah, life has been busy lately but I hope to get back on more regularly. Training going well but still just TRT for the last 1.5 years now due to an iron issue. Figuring it out and all the hospital blood dumps has prohibited me from adding any AAS to the game. Hopefully it's over soon and the BW slows down. It's such a see-saw balancing out iron, hemo and hema. Long story actually. Still hanging in there a little over 230lbs on just TRT so I can't really complain.

    I do have a question for you. What is your thoughts on PRP for a knee?
    Being busy is good. Yeah, I’m thinking 230 ain’t too bad. Plus something tells me, that your bf stays in the 10-11% range, until you start to cut.

    Short answer is I have no personal experience with it, but from what I can tell from solid sources on the internet is that it’s really showing promise; so it sure doesn’t sound like some gimmick.

    I can go into detail and provide the medical article, but the conclusion suggests that for mild to moderate knee arthritis, the treatment helps both pain and cartilage thickness. But they said the weakness in their study is that only 30 people were involved.

    I left a message for my training partner from PT school, who is younger & still working. He’s worked with colleges and one NFL team in both PT, but primarily strength and conditioning. We still talk shop a lot and trade videos of training beasts like Derrick Henry. As soon as I hear I’ll get back to you.

    Being it’s me, I could give you a longer explanation with anatomical illustrations to explain better, but I’ll leave it to you - perhaps you could look at it to try to put you to sleep, lol.

    Glad you’re well, but sorry old man DJD keeps knocking on your door. That guy is an a-hole, once he starts visiting he never stops.
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    I'll be interested in hearing your friends opinion. Yes, I've read all the studies and will probably talk to my ortho and get his opinion. Always appreciate your thoughts on these matters!
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    Response, volume 2, lol.

    My pleasure Kel, always happy to be able to contribute to this forum in a positive way to try to balance my annoying personality, lol.

    We spoke last night. He too hasn’t had any direct experience with any patients whose had it - but- to maintain our license we have to take a certain amount of hours annually in continuing Ed. Talk about your irony - it was the last seminar he took.

    He too was impressed with the findings with the treatment & he too thinks there’s a lot of potential.

    When it comes to insurance though, the overriding factor will be, how much will it cost weighed against how long it will relieve symptoms significantly and how long will it put off the next likely more permanent option (in this usage, a possible knee replacement).

    They used to do arthroscopic debridement regularly to “clean” away the more bothersome “jagged” cartilage (not so much now). But, you see this done in professional sports regularly, because it buys the player temporary relief for a season. But the bottom line is, for the average individual; is it financially worth it to the insurance? Because with degenerative arthritis, to this point, unfortunately, it’s irreversible and many times, the permanent joint replacement surgery is more advantageous.
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