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    British and French Guiana in South America.

    Why the hell do we allow colonization within our territory? I see that this European presence in the territory of South America is a threat, just as NATO is for Russia. The Brazilian and South American rulers were completely cowardly to allow European colonization here in South America. We could annex bloody British and French Guiana without thinking too much, because in South America we are sovereign. And it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Brazilian government to think about starting "Plans to develop nuclear weapons". I confess that to this day I don't understand why some countries have nuclear bombs and other countries cannot .Well hell, this is definitely to have control over other nations.

    As long as Brazil does not have a strong-willed governing leader, governments and other nations will continue shitting a lot of shit in South American territory.

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    Are they not both sovereign states now?
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    Well bro, British Guyana is no longer owned by the United Kingdom due to its independence, now it is called Essequiba Guyana and most of it belongs to Brazil... Nicolas Maduro wants to be appropriate these lands and revoke this territory because it is rich in petroleum.


    I'll tell you brother that we Brazilians never got along very well with the French, we almost took over French Guyana because they carried out illegal fishing of lobsters in our waters under the president's Brazilian government Janio Quadros ..

    We were ready for the seriously clash, where France even sent French warships to our waters claiming that it was to ensure the safety of illegal lobster fishermen in our waters...

    So we were ready at that time, even with fighter jets to bomb them on top of their ships and Brazilian ships against French ships face to face.
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    I'm going to tell you a story that many Brazilians say is true, but I ask that you draw your own conclusion about the facts narrated.



    The attempted invasion of Roraima


    In 1993, the Brazilian government began to receive several complaints from indigenous people who said they were dying from illegal miners in the Amazon region.



    Then these same Indians began to demand action at the UN, and asked for the approval and demarcation of the Raposa Serra do Sol indigenous reserve located in the Brazilian state of Roraima.



    Brazilian President Itamar Franco refused to ratify and demarcate those indigenous lands, so trouble was coming.



    The American vice-president named Al Gore, a fanatical environmentalist, decides to make a big international noise with the support of several European governments.Meanwhile, international pressure on the Brazilian president came from every side you can imagine; he doesn't respond to requests .



    So there is a true story or what could also be a conspiracy theory that says that AL Gore sent military troops together with British forces to try to create an indigenous enclave in Maloca da Raposa Serra do Sol. Many Brazilian YouTubers from military channels believe it and claim it as true. Because a pilot who worked at the Diamond Exchange arrived with his aircraft in the border city with British Guyana, saw the population in fear on September 8, 1993 when landing its aircraft. It was said everywhere that Uiramutã would be invaded and that many American and British soldiers were camped on the border. So this curious pilot went to ask a police sergeant in small detachment from the area if it was true! The police sergeant told him yes, that a young prospector who was flying over the region with his aircraft had seen many troops of soldiers Americans and British together.So the next day the curious pilot flew over again to see if it was true with some soldiers from the Brazilian army. They then see a helicopter landing further. a wave of soldiers and, based on the number of tents, they estimate around 600 American and British fighters together on that border with Brazil. They say that the Brazilian embassy in Georgetown, Guyana, had notified the Itamaraty of the Brazilian army for international relations that two warships had been seen heading towards Brazil;one with an American flag and the other with a British flag. THEN the high command of the Brazilian army decided to carry out a troop dissuasion operation, this operation should only appear to be a military operation, Operation Surumu. All at the time should believe that Operation Surumu was fictional, fighting an imaginary enemy called Cratênia. A Brazilian broadcaster at the time covered it. But hearing it from their own mouths Brazilian military that it was not a fictitious operation They said they took real ammunition and that it was one of the biggest deterrence operations of the Brazilian Army that was hidden from the Brazilian population so as not to break diplomacy international.The Brazilian air force sends 850 paratroopers to land in the most mountainous regions of the Amazon region with their machine guns. There are reports that they came face to face with the troops UN military personnel and told him that if he entered Brazilian territory it would be war. While the paratroopers were positioned there, Brazilian air force fighters were ready to bomb; CIGS specialists in Jungle combat were also called in. Soon In terms of deterrence, the Brazilian army had already numbered 5000 soldiers against 600 for the British and Americans.





    I ask that you do not take what is described here as absolute truth, but this is what is preached in Brazil, including by many Brazilian YouTube channels in the military world.
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    This YouTube video discusses the failed attempt by American and British troops to invade the Amazon in 1993. The invasion was a response to international pressure for the demarcation of a reserve and the creation of an autonomous indigenous nation in the area. The Brazilian military discovered the plan and launched a major operation to prevent it, including dropping paratroopers and establishing a no-fly zone. The situation remained unresolved as President Itamar Franco hesitated to take action. The video poses the question of whether the invasion was a military exercise or a covert operation to defend the Amazon.

    00:00:00 In this section, we learn about the failed attempt by American and British troops to invade the Raposa Serra do Sol reserve in the Amazon in 1993. This invasion was a response to international pressure for the demarcation of the reserve and the creation of an indigenous nation in the area. The intention was to exploit the region's natural resources and establish an autonomous indigenous region independent of Brazil. The plan was discovered when a Brazilian civilian pilot reported unusual activity and the presence of American soldiers near the border with Guyana. This revelation prompted the Brazilian Army and Air Force to launch a major operation to prevent the invasion.
    00:05:00 In this section, tensions rise as the Brazilian military becomes aware of the presence of American and British troops in the Amazon. A Brazilian pilot discovers the foreign troops being dropped off on the Guyanese side and narrowly escapes being pursued. The Brazilian military quickly responds by launching a massive operation disguised as a military training exercise. They drop 850 paratroopers in the region, bringing the total number of Brazilian soldiers to 5,000, all closely monitoring the foreign troops across the Maú River. The Brazilian Air Force establishes a no-fly zone in the region, further escalating the situation. President Itamar Franco is hesitant to take action, leaving the situation unresolved.
    00:10:00 In this section, the excerpt discusses Operation Surumu, where the US and British armies attempted to invade the Amazon. However, they soon realized that it would be a disastrous endeavor, resulting in the death of many soldiers and potentially sparking a new Vietnam war. The question arises whether Operation Surumu was merely a military exercise or a covert operation designed to defend the Amazon from potential invaders. The video encourages viewers to share their opinions in the comments section.
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    Sorry to be off topic here davi.
    Been a Brazilian national. How do you feel on the deforestation of the Amazon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Well bro, British Guyana is no longer owned by the United Kingdom due to its independence, now it is called Essequiba Guyana and most of it belongs to Brazil... Nicolas Maduro wants to be appropriate these lands and revoke this territory because it is rich in petroleum.


    I'll tell you brother that we Brazilians never got along very well with the French, we almost took over French Guyana because they carried out illegal fishing of lobsters in our waters under the president's Brazilian government Janio Quadros ..

    We were ready for the seriously clash, where France even sent French warships to our waters claiming that it was to ensure the safety of illegal lobster fishermen in our waters...

    So we were ready at that time, even with fighter jets to bomb them on top of their ships and Brazilian ships against French ships face to face.
    Now, THAT'S a show I would pay to see.

    No offence Davi, I like you as a contributor and a worthy fellow debater (I didn't say "masturbator", I said" debater.) but; with the following stats, the naval confrontation would best play out for Brazil, if they did not sally forth from their ports...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nch_Navy_ships

    I do not doubt your nations ability to lay waste to French ground troops, in the jungles of the Amazon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    Sorry to be off topic here davi.
    Been a Brazilian national. How do you feel on the deforestation of the Amazon?
    Great question; I would be interested to hear an opinion from someone that lives there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Now, THAT'S a show I would pay to see.

    No offence Davi, I like you as a contributor and a worthy fellow debater (I didn't say "masturbator", I said" debater.) but; with the following stats, the naval confrontation would best play out for Brazil, if they did not sally forth from their ports...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nch_Navy_ships

    I do not doubt your nations ability to lay waste to French ground troops, in the jungles of the Amazon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Now, THAT'S a show I would pay to see.

    No offence Davi, I like you as a contributor and a worthy fellow debater (I didn't say "masturbator", I said" debater.) but; with the following stats, the naval confrontation would best play out for Brazil, if they did not sally forth from their ports...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nch_Navy_ships

    I do not doubt your nations ability to lay waste to French ground troops, in the jungles of the Amazon...

    Brazil is developing a Kamikaze drone, watch the video and you will see that it will destroy any naval fleet

    The ANSHAR unmanned aerial vehicle is a Kamikaze drone that is being developed by the Brazilian company Mac Jee, based on its own investments in research and innovation


    It is a versatile and powerful tool to be used in a wide variety of military applications, and can be used to attack land or sea targets.

    ANSHAR meets the requirements of modern warfare doctrines, as it reaches a speed of 170 m/s, the equivalent of 612 km/h, with a minimum flight altitude of 10 meters, which is Sea skimming flight, which makes it very difficult to be detected in time by anti-aircraft defenses. It also has a range of 180km and a flight time of 1 hour. Additionally, the drone supports a payload of 20kg of explosives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    Sorry to be off topic here davi.
    Been a Brazilian national. How do you feel on the deforestation of the Amazon?


    Here is my opinion as a Brazilian brother;
    I am outraged because Brazil is the country that most preserves the environment, it is the largest source of green energy, 80% of Brazilian soil is preserved, it is absurd that countries that deforest, pollute, have the audacity to want to shit rules on the Amazon . Brazil is an example of environmental preservation.


    To give you an idea, the Amazon forest is larger than the whole of Western Europe and many of the fires in the Amazon are nothing more than incentives from foreign NGOs to appropriate of a piece of the Amazon. In the Amazon rainforest, you find niobium, precious stones, gold, zinc, it is one of the greatest sources of natural wealth in the world. ...There is a strong system and idea international organization of wanting to internationalize the Brazilian Amazon forest... They know that if they try this it would only end in a war as Brazil would never allow this, much less the Brazilian citizens .

    As a Brazilian, I tell you that many Brazilians fear a future foreign invasion, no Brazilian rules out this hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Great question; I would be interested to hear an opinion from someone that lives there.
    I can say that 99% of what the media says about deforestation in the Amazon is fake news
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Here is my opinion as a Brazilian brother;
    I am outraged because Brazil is the country that most preserves the environment, it is the largest source of green energy, 80% of Brazilian soil is preserved, it is absurd that countries that deforest, pollute, have the audacity to want to shit rules on the Amazon . Brazil is an example of environmental preservation.


    To give you an idea, the Amazon forest is larger than the whole of Western Europe and many of the fires in the Amazon are nothing more than incentives from foreign NGOs to appropriate of a piece of the Amazon. In the Amazon rainforest, you find niobium, precious stones, gold, zinc, it is one of the greatest sources of natural wealth in the world. ...There is a strong system and idea international organization of wanting to internationalize the Brazilian Amazon forest... They know that if they try this it would only end in a war as Brazil would never allow this, much less the Brazilian citizens .

    As a Brazilian, I tell you that many Brazilians fear a future foreign invasion, no Brazilian rules out this hypothesis.
    I bet the rainforest is so vast and beautiful. A natural wonder that should be preserved. But I can also see the other side. I can just imagine what my country would have said at the Industrial Revolution even if you showed evidence of it been harmful, “you’re standing in the way of progress”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Brazil is developing a Kamikaze drone, watch the video and you will see that it will destroy any naval fleet

    The ANSHAR unmanned aerial vehicle is a Kamikaze drone that is being developed by the Brazilian company Mac Jee, based on its own investments in research and innovation


    It is a versatile and powerful tool to be used in a wide variety of military applications, and can be used to attack land or sea targets.

    ANSHAR meets the requirements of modern warfare doctrines, as it reaches a speed of 170 m/s, the equivalent of 612 km/h, with a minimum flight altitude of 10 meters, which is Sea skimming flight, which makes it very difficult to be detected in time by anti-aircraft defenses. It also has a range of 180km and a flight time of 1 hour. Additionally, the drone supports a payload of 20kg of explosives.
    That being said; this is not the first "wunder waffen" which was theorised to make war impossible...

    We have witnessed, in the last 20+ years, the birth and the adolescence of drones in warfare, and the future is yet to be seen. In the east, in Ukraine, the latest battlefield reports are of sophisticated, well developed Russian EW (electronic warfare) to combat drone technology...

    All I was trying to get at was the formidable naval forces which France can array on the sea, in confrontation with a foe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121 View Post
    I bet the rainforest is so vast and beautiful. A natural wonder that should be preserved. But I can also see the other side. I can just imagine what my country would have said at the Industrial Revolution even if you showed evidence of it been harmful, “you’re standing in the way of progress”

    Thank you Davi for replying.

    Brother, just being honest, there are a lot of lies all over the media!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    I can say that 99% of what the media says about deforestation in the Amazon is fake news
    Hah...!!!

    I'm not surprised...!!!

    Nice to be able to consult with someone who is from that region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    Brother, just being honest, there are a lot of lies all over the media!
    I don’t disagree. When bolsonaro was president it was always in the news that deforestation is at unprecedented level in Brazil.now da silva is in charge nothing. Same as Covid that just went away. No Isreal hammas is going on there is next to nothing on Ukrainian.
    So i always think it’s better to get the opinion of someone closer to home. And what ever the main stream media is saying, go with the opposite.
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    Nicolas Maduro actually wants to invade Guyana Essequibo, "the former British Guiana that had independence"... War is in the air
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    From what I saw, the Brazilian army's 1993 Operation Surumu was nothing more than just a military exercise.It wouldn't make any sense for the USA and Great Britain to want to invade Brazil at the request of the UN, they you tuber have no evidence and much less documentation about this fact... This conspiracy theory still revolves around the Brazil on YouTube channels, many fools end up believing it.

    Maybe the EB military invented false accusations at the time, the only thing I found was a 1993 New York Times article that said the Brazilian military was accusing the US of a attempted invasion by Guyana
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    Well bro, British Guyana is no longer owned by the United Kingdom due to its independence, now it is called Essequiba Guyana and most of it belongs to Brazil... Nicolas Maduro wants to be appropriate these lands and revoke this territory because it is rich in petroleum.


    I'll tell you brother that we Brazilians never got along very well with the French, we almost took over French Guyana because they carried out illegal fishing of lobsters in our waters under the president's Brazilian government Janio Quadros ..

    We were ready for the seriously clash, where France even sent French warships to our waters claiming that it was to ensure the safety of illegal lobster fishermen in our waters...

    So we were ready at that time, even with fighter jets to bomb them on top of their ships and Brazilian ships against French ships face to face.
    Well Davi, I'll ask you a question. Is that oil worth dying over? If so, are you enlisting in to the Brazilian army? And really, what do the people of Guyana want? Since it is their land and oil that you guys are fighting over, shouldn't they have a say in who gets to rule over them?

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    And I'm sure the people of French Guyana hate the French, but love the money the French spend in welfare on them.

    The same thing happens with Puerto Rico. Every time they have a vote as to whether or not to be independent, once they realize that they lose the gibs if they leave, they end up choosing to remain a territory and just complain about America ruling over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Well Davi, I'll ask you a question. Is that oil worth dying over? If so, are you enlisting in to the Brazilian army? And really, what do the people of Guyana want? Since it is their land and oil that you guys are fighting over, shouldn't they have a say in who gets to rule over them?
    The only point to question is whether these colonies could become a threat to Brazil, whether we like it or not, we have the presence of the damned French on our borders... According to the statistics, France has a stronger naval defense and area than Brazil. Brazil's security defense is a joke when it comes to military investment, if a war breaks out against Brazil it will be fucked . Do you remember Macron's noise in the Bolsonaro Government about internationalizing the Amazon in 2019? So it's a serious threat man! In my view and that of other Brazilians, these colonies should be taken to guarantee Brazilian national defense. Another good thing to do is Brazil should break the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and start investing heavily in this...

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    Considering the entire Amazon area, however, around 1.4% is in French Guyana, so Macron can only be joking in wanting to charge Brazil to join the OTCA claiming that it has sovereign territory in the Amazon. Joke, completely joke!

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    Honkey_Kong;7600391]Well Davi, I'll ask you a question. Is that oil worth dying over? If so, are you enlisting in to the Brazilian army? And really, what do the people of Guyana want?



    I would certainly volunteer to die in the liberation of our borders or even defend Brazilian territory from an international foreign invasion! War never warns when it's going to knock on our door, Ukraine served as an example for us, it forced them to hand over all their nuclear weapons in a shitty treaty and then be invaded by their neighbors! Here in Brazil, because corruption is so loud, governments and politicians turn our armed forces and our military potential into scrap. There's no point in lying to you here. Because this is the reality, Brazil needs to carry out an arms race today. We don't have much time, you can see that diplomatic treaties are something temporary, Brazil says it is a matter of peace and that it is not a country at war with anyone. But honestly, this is a delay for the national defense system, where Brazil has the largest reserve of natural resources in the world. Not until they come for us, but I know one day they will.



    The war in South America will break out with the help of the Venezuelans and I hope that Brazil supports them and passes them to Roraima in Brazil on our roads so that they can place their tanks and vehicles to Guyana Essequiba

    I just think that Brazil could take the opportunity to also invade French Guyana. We don't have time to waste if wars are breaking out everywhere in the world.


    Most of the people colonized by the French are enslaved, we Brazilians would free them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    The only point to question is whether these colonies could become a threat to Brazil, whether we like it or not, we have the presence of the damned French on our borders... According to the statistics, France has a stronger naval defense and area than Brazil. Brazil's security defense is a joke when it comes to military investment, if a war breaks out against Brazil it will be fucked . Do you remember Macron's noise in the Bolsonaro Government about internationalizing the Amazon in 2019? So it's a serious threat man! In my view and that of other Brazilians, these colonies should be taken to guarantee Brazilian national defense. Another good thing to do is Brazil should break the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and start investing heavily in this...
    They don't pose any threat to Brazil or anywhere else though. And Brazil should break the nuclear non-proliferation treaty? Come on, Dude. You're typing crazy here. I suggest you unplug the TV forever and relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi Meireles View Post
    I would certainly volunteer to die in the liberation of our borders or even defend Brazilian territory from an international foreign invasion! War never warns when it's going to knock on our door, Ukraine served as an example for us, it forced them to hand over all their nuclear weapons in a shitty treaty and then be invaded by their neighbors! Here in Brazil, because corruption is so loud, governments and politicians turn our armed forces and our military potential into scrap. There's no point in lying to you here. Because this is the reality, Brazil needs to carry out an arms race today. We don't have much time, you can see that diplomatic treaties are something temporary, Brazil says it is a matter of peace and that it is not a country at war with anyone. But honestly, this is a delay for the national defense system, where Brazil has the largest reserve of natural resources in the world. Not until they come for us, but I know one day they will.



    The war in South America will break out with the help of the Venezuelans and I hope that Brazil supports them and passes them to Roraima in Brazil on our roads so that they can place their tanks and vehicles to Guyana Essequiba

    I just think that Brazil could take the opportunity to also invade French Guyana. We don't have time to waste if wars are breaking out everywhere in the world.


    Most of the people colonized by the French are enslaved, we Brazilians would free them.
    How free are those Braillians living in the favelas? Their problems are not your problems. Besides, at the end of the day, neither you or I have any control on what happens in any of this political crap. The idea of "vote harder" just doesn't work.

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    How free are those Braillians living in the favelas? Their problems are not your problems. Besides, at the end of the day, neither you or I have any control on what happens in any of this political crap. The idea of "vote harder" just doesn't work.


    How miserable was that population of the city of Mogadishu, in Somalia, who turned against American troops?

    I can say that even the poor population of Brazilian favelas are nationalist and free; most of them admire the heads of criminal organizations in cartel trafficking!
    And these criminal organizations often end up helping vulnerable people more than the government itself.
    There is a kind of bandolatry in Brazil, that is a fact. You invade a country where there are nationalists, the war gets complicated, don't you see the Viet Cong shit?
    How did they get volunteers from the mass recruitment of camouflaged civilians who largely lived in guerrillas against the Americans, while they were seen as saints?
    You draw the same conclusion about the Palestinian people as the majority of the nationalist population, who know that their territory was stolen by Israel by post-Holocaust Zionists.
    So Therefore, it's not about how miserable a nation is, it's about when people create bonds in that poor miserable places creating a great union.
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    They don't pose any threat to Brazil or anywhere else though. And Brazil should break the nuclear non-proliferation treaty? Come on, Dude. You're typing crazy here. I suggest you unplug the TV forever and relax.
    Because it does not represent whether NATO UN countries can use that territory to invade Brazil, if there is any international disagreement. It's nothing new that an environmentalist speech can now be a reason to break an international relationship... And another thing; Brazil should have its own nuclear bombs just like the USA... It's not about using them, but about defending itself and showing respect in the geopolitical field
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    How miserable was that population of the city of Mogadishu, in Somalia, who turned against American troops?

    I can say that even the poor population of Brazilian favelas are nationalist and free; most of them admire the heads of criminal organizations in cartel trafficking!
    And these criminal organizations often end up helping vulnerable people more than the government itself.
    There is a kind of bandolatry in Brazil, that is a fact. You invade a country where there are nationalists, the war gets complicated, don't you see the Viet Cong shit?
    How did they get volunteers from the mass recruitment of camouflaged civilians who largely lived in guerrillas against the Americans, while they were seen as saints?
    You draw the same conclusion about the Palestinian people as the majority of the nationalist population, who know that their territory was stolen by Israel by post-Holocaust Zionists.
    So Therefore, it's not about how miserable a nation is, it's about when people create bonds in that poor miserable places creating a great union.
    Nobody is invading Brazil. It's full of organized crime and the population idolizes these cartel leaders. The reason why they do that is because they live in filth. Those same cartels contribute to the condition those people are in. Not to mention how many of them are victimized and murdered by those cartels.

    But since you brought up the VC. I suggest you read McNamara's War and you'll get a better idea of what went on there than what the media portrayed. Fact is those VCs actually hated China and China's communists, but they hated that piece of shit Diem even more so they took Chinese and Russian weapons to fight his government. And if you look at casualty numbers, the VC got killed out there. They were just going to throw bodies at the problem.

    But here you are claiming you guys want to steal French Guyana. Think they're not going to want to fight you guys for stealing their country and subjugating them to your government?

    And as far as Palestine being stolen. It was stolen by the zionists long before WW2. Look back to the Balfour declaration or the zionist-led genocides of the Armenians. They were meddling in the Ottoman Empire from the days of Theodor Herzel on in to WW1 trying to destabilize the empire and eventually to cause its collapse.

    The thing that is common in all of those scenarios is somebody is trying to steal somebody else's shit. If there's anything that can be learned from any of that is that if people didn't feel they were entitled to other people's shit there wouldn't be any fighting over it in the first place. And the world is big enough for us all to get a piece of the pie where we are without having to steal somebody else's
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    You meant that “socialist terrorists” carried out an armed revolution in Brazil to implement socialism. And that honorable troops of the Brazilian army didn't let this happen, ok? After the resignation of Janios Quadros, João Goulart assumed the presidency of Brazil, he was a president with leftist ideas, very aligned with the Soviet Union. When the Brazilian military saw that they were a threat to Brazil and that the reforms he wanted to make within Brazil were to ally with socialism. HE was forced to leave power by the Brazilian military, and for me these soldiers are patriotic heroes of the Brazilian nation, it was not a military coup in 64. It was about saving the Brazilian Homeland. This intervention in 64 had the support of several sectors of the Brazilian good society. The problem is that student political groups were funded for guerrilla warfare by the Soviet Union, China and Cuba and began carrying out several terrorist attacks. I will describe to you some of these groups:



    The Popular Revolutionary Vanguard (VPR) was a guerrilla group that fought against the regime of the Brazilian military who defended the Fatherland. VPR was founded in 1967 and its members were mainly students and workers. The group carried out a series of attacks against the military government, including the kidnapping of foreign diplomats.



    The National Liberation Action (ALN) was another guerrilla group that fought against Brazilian military heroes. The ALN was founded in 1967 and its members were mainly intellectuals and artists. The group carried out a series of attacks against the military government, exploding bombs in police stations, robbing a bank and including the assassination of the United States ambassador to Brazil, Charles Burke Elbrick.



    The Brazilian Communist Party (PCB) was the main communist party in Brazil. The PCB was founded in 1922 and its members were mainly workers. heavily armed and fired machine guns at agencies, banks, attacks on embassies, etc. etc. I'm not going to quote here the whole story about everything that happened during this troubled period in Brazil, but if you want to know more, I recommend a book here The suffocated truth Carlos Alberto Brilhante Ustra







    At the! Hell, I said that my particular opinion is that Brazil should take French Guiana, because we are the ones in charge of South America. And man, have you ever heard the Latin phrase Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum, how many people love Brazil like they say, tell me? I'm sure you love Brazilian women with hot pussies and perky asses! Other than that I'm sure most of you see the Brazilian nation as insignificant. We don't have international relevance as we should have, so why not break the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and gain more respect..Just my opinion as a Brazilian..I would like to know when we Brazilians are going to stop seeing ourselves like poor things in global geopolitics, we look like a wet dog with our heads down to everything they throw at us.




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    The thing that is common in all of those scenarios is somebody is trying to steal somebody else's shit. If there's anything that can be learned from any of that is that if people didn't feel they were entitled to other people's shit there wouldn't be any fighting over it in the first place. And the world is big enough for us all to get a piece of the pie where we are without having to steal somebody else's
    Well Venezuela's referendum will take place on December 3rd to see if the Venezuelan population supports the seizure of Essequibo. I'm not Venezuelan but they have my full support, I just don't need to volunteer to go fight because I'm sure that the Venezuelan brothers will dominate that territory in one day.

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    Nobody is invading Brazil. It's full of organized crime and the population idolizes these cartel leaders. The reason why they do that is because they live in filth. Those same cartels contribute to the condition those people are in. Not to mention how many of them are victimized and murdered by those cartels.

    But since you brought up the VC. I suggest you read McNamara's War and you'll get a better idea of what went on there than what the media portrayed. Fact is those VCs actually hated China and China's communists, but they hated that piece of shit Diem even more so they took Chinese and Russian weapons to fight his government. And if you look at casualty numbers, the VC got killed out there. They were just going to throw bodies at the problem.

    But here you are claiming you guys want to steal French Guyana. Think they're not going to want to fight you guys for stealing their country and subjugating them to your government?

    And as far as Palestine being stolen. It was stolen by the zionists long before WW2. Look back to the Balfour declaration or the zionist-led genocides of the Armenians. They were meddling in the Ottoman Empire from the days of Theodor Herzel on in to WW1 trying to destabilize the empire and eventually to cause its collapse.

    The thing that is common in all of those scenarios is somebody is trying to steal somebody else's shit. If there's anything that can be learned from any of that is that if people didn't feel they were entitled to other people's shit there wouldn't be any fighting over it in the first place. And the world is big enough for us all to get a piece of the pie where we are without having to steal somebody else's
    Thank you for your report on the history of Palestine, yes that was it

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    Venezuela will return Pirara to Brazil


    The Pirara Question was a diplomatic conflict between Portugal (after 1822, Brazil) and England, which began at the beginning of the 19th century and ended in 1904 with the cession by Brazil of part of the territory disputed between the two countries.

    The conflict arose from the imprecise limits between Brazil and British Guyana, established in the Treaty of Utrecht of 1713. The treaty established that the border between the two colonies would be the Pirara River, but did not define the exact course of the river.

    At the beginning of the 19th century, British Guiana began to occupy the Pirara region, claiming that the river ran further south than foreseen in the treaty. Brazil, in turn, claimed that the river flowed further north.

    The conflict dragged on for more than a century, with neither party able to prove its position. In 1904, the matter was referred to the King of Italy's Court of Arbitration, which decided that 19,630 km² of the disputed territory should be ceded to Brazil, while 13,570 km² should be ceded to British Guiana.

    The Arbitration Court's decision was a setback for Brazil, which lost a significant area of ​​its territory. The territory ceded to British Guyana corresponds to around 2% of current Brazilian territory.

    The Pirara Question is an example of how the vagueness of borders can lead to diplomatic conflicts. The conflict is also an example of the influence that England exerted on South America during the 19th century.

    The Pirara region is today a remote and sparsely populated area. Most of the territory is covered by the Amazon Rainforest.
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    The puppet President of Guyana is calling for NATO border intervention! Hell, NATO in South America is disrespectful to South American sovereignty


    I hope they dare to step on our borders, let's see what happens

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    Shame on Brazil, they are cowardly going against Venezuela to recover its stolen territory. Damn politicians sold by globalism! The Brazilian army sent troops to the borders and American troops arrived in Guyana

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