MYTH-BUSTER THREAD: Let's kill these myths once and for all

**BASK8KACE** · 02-06-2004, 08:27 PM

If I see one more thread about losing testosterone by ejaculating or "can I drink winny?" I'm gonna have to curb-check someone.

So, let's kill these here. I'll start:

1. Yes, you can drink Winny.

2. You don't loose testosterone when you ejaculate. You might feel sleepy afterward, but it is not an indication that your body has lost testosterone. So go have sex and or rub one off.

3. YOU WONT GROW ON STEROIDS IF YOU DON'T EAT ENOUGH CALORIES.

4. On certain steroids, your balls might shrink, the volume of your ejaculate might decrease; but your shaft won't get bigger, nor will your shaft shrink. So quit measuring it and go use your time for better things.

**LuvMuhRoids** · 02-06-2004, 08:47 PM

bump

**nostawk** · 02-06-2004, 08:52 PM

5. Hoss is not on steroids ................i repeat Hoss is not on steroids.............. he acheived his ginormous bench naturally

**monster.** · 02-06-2004, 08:52 PM

I know a good one, When you are injecting, after you aspirate , and you get some blood.. Change the needle and shoot it back in, no need to waste the sauce.. reswab, aspirate, etc.

[=={[[[KEEP THIS]]]} CHANGE THIS }}---------,,,

**Carlos_E** · 02-06-2004, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by BASK8KACE

If I see one more thread about losing testosterone by ejaculating or "can I drink winny?" I'm gonna have to curb-check someone.

So, let's kill these here. I'll start:

1. Yes, you can drink Winny.

2. You don't loose testosterone when you ejaculate. You might feel sleepy afterward, but it is not an indication that your body has lost testosterone. So go have sex and or rub one off.

3. YOU WONT GROW ON STEROIDS IF YOU DON'T EAT ENOUGH CALORIES.

4. On certain steroids, your balls might shrink, the volume of your ejaculate might decrease; but your shaft won't get bigger, nor will your shaft shrink. So quit measuring it and go use your time for better things.

I see you've been reading a few of the newbie threads.

**Elliot** · 02-06-2004, 08:54 PM

why are you picking on hoss? at 16 his bench is 160 thats 10 lbs per ever year hes been around..

**Da Bull** · 02-06-2004, 08:56 PM

When we say do the shot in your a$$,we DON'T mean the O ring......

**BASK8KACE** · 02-06-2004, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

I see you've been reading a few of the newbie threads.

Yes. They should ask their questions openly, but the classics keep coming back again and again--asked as earnestly as the very first time.

**monster.** · 02-06-2004, 08:58 PM

This is a common misconception, on the steroid forum:

It's PHEEDNO not... PHEENDO

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

**Carlos_E** · 02-06-2004, 09:17 PM

There should be a Myth Buster Thread as a sticky.

**hoss827** · 02-06-2004, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by nostawk

5. Hoss is not on steroids ................i repeat Hoss is not on steroids.............. he acheived his ginormous bench naturally

LMAO!!!!!!!!! I dont think it's the bench, I think it's the calf raises, squats, and high weight i use on triceps, biceps, and traps...My chest is what needs work dammit!

Thanks for the laugh bro,

--Hoss

**Carlos_E** · 02-06-2004, 09:25 PM

BASK8KACE, Check your PMs!

**jammergsxr** · 02-07-2004, 01:35 AM

Heres a big one........1ml=1cc.......1cc=1ml

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 02-07-2004, 01:57 AM

Here's a few...

1) You can't eat whatever you want and expect to have it all turned into muscle.
2) Being 'on' doesn't mean you can cut yourself some slack in the gym or diet-wise, you're wasting your time.
3) Don't tell me you don't like injections, because if you refuse too take 'em, you're not ready.
4) You're going to gain fat while you bulk. It's innevitable. So don't cry.
5) You will get acne.
6) There's no such thing as roid rage . It's all in the mentality. Find me proven scientific evidence that there's a link between Testosterone and Aggresion in HUMANS (not animals, humans).
7) Steroids don't burn fat. There's no such thing. All they do is retain muscle while dieting and make you slightly anabolic .
8) To look like a pro or even like a Mens Health model, most of us will need more than 1 cycle.
9) In my experience, there's no such thing as just ONE cycle. Once you're on, you're on for life or atleast a good amount of time. When you're done your first, you're already planning your fifth.
10) You can't keep it a secret forever. You either will tell someone or someone will find out.

**Da Bull** · 02-07-2004, 02:02 AM

Nice post Ronny.

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 02-07-2004, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

Nice post Ronny.

You knows me Da Bull...I ain'ts **** around...you nahs I mean.

**Da Bull** · 02-07-2004, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL

You knows me Da Bull...I ain'ts **** around...you nahs I mean.

LMAO Bro...eyes here ya

**Terinox** · 02-07-2004, 02:18 AM

Ronny, excellent post! All so true, especially number 9!!

And to add to the list...

Masturbation does NOT make you go blind (although my ears get clogged up weird).

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 02-07-2004, 02:32 AM

I got more, I got more...

11) You'll make mistakes in your first cycle. Just don't do it again. If you do, you're an idiot.
12) Don't get discouraged. At first, you'll be disappointed until it kicks in. Stick to your diet and routine. Consitancy is more important then you think.
13) You will get sick on your cycle. Most likely during the first couple of weeks. It's your body reacting to the synthetic oil being injected into your body. It's a foreign subbstance, your body doesn't know how to deal with it.
14) Aspirating takes a second, do it.
15) Always research and study what you're doing and injecting. It's always better to know exactly what's happening with your body.
16) What works for other people may and probably will not work with you.
17) Test is a must in all cycles.
18) Because you're on the sauce doesn't mean you don't need Glutamine, Creatine, Multivitamins, Fibre Supplements, Amino Acids or Whey. It's not a miracle drug.
19) When you get cut, you'll bleed more than usual. It's just your heart pumping out more blood, nothing else. Don't get worried.
20) Don't become an asshole. No matter how big or strong you are...there's always someone bigger and stronger.

**Da Bull** · 02-07-2004, 02:42 AM

Ronny has his thinking beanie on tonight....another nice post bro.

**Farmer** · 02-07-2004, 02:43 AM

One I have just had re-surface and is becoming a dilemma.

Cardio on an empty stomach is NOT the best way to burn fat

I've got a thread titled "input on this article" in the workout section with a link to the whole argument and studies...give it a look..

Peace

Farmer

**Da Bull** · 02-07-2004, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Farmer

One I have just had re-surface and is becoming a dilemma.

Cardio on an empty stomach is NOT the best way to burn fat

I've got a thread titled "input on this article" in the workout section with a link to the whole argument and studies...give it a look..

Peace

Farmer

I just checked that out bro,very good debate...Thanks.

**Warrior** · 02-07-2004, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL

6) There's no such thing as roid rage. It's all in the mentality. Find me proven scientific evidence that there's a link between Testosterone and Aggresion in HUMANS (not animals, humans).

From my post in this thread were we discussed the endocrine system and emotions last October:

There was a study done (1993) that found men higher in endogenous testosterone production were less likely to marry; once married, they are more likely to leave home because of trouble marital relations, extramarital sex, hitting or throwing things at their spouses, and experiencing a lower quality of marital interaction.

Another study (1991) tested male offenders. Offenders high in testosterone commited more violent crimes, were judged more harshly by the parole board, and violated prison rules more often than those low in testosterone. Interesting enough, as cortisol concentraions increased, the corelation between testosterone and violent behavior dropped. This could be explained from less testosterone aromatizing to estrogen and instead binding to glucocorticoid receptors... since estrogen aromatization has been linked to increased aggressiveness...

To see a how hormone levels effect our general disposition, you can just look at the differences in men and women. A survey (1991) of 560 college age men and woman found significant gender differences. Adult men reported more physical and verbal aggression than did woman. Men also had higher scores on measures of impulsivity and lack of frustration tollerance than did woman, while woman were more likely to avoid confrontation.

Winning vs Losing - I was just looking at two other studies that looked at the responses to winning and losing that shared the same results. "Winners had higher testosterone levels than the losers - with no significant difference in close and decisive contests. Mood was depressed in decisive losers... perception to winning or losing, regardless of actual performance, differtially influenced testosterone levels but not cortisol levels, and that changes are not simply general arousal effects but are related to mood and status change (1989)." "Winners reported more positive mood change and higher testosterone levels than did a neutral group that did not win or lose money (1992).

BTW "Roid Rage " is just media hype. There is NO EXCUSE FOR LOSING YOUR TEMPER OR BECOMING IRRATIONAL - if you can't control yourself as is - don't go dumping more hormones into your system... JMO...

**LuvMuhRoids** · 02-07-2004, 05:55 AM

And a good opinion it is. I agree.

Originally Posted by Warrior

BTW "Roid Rage" is just media hype. There is NO EXCUSE FOR LOSING YOUR TEMPER OR BECOMING IRRATIONAL - if you can't control yourself as is - don't go dumping more hormones into your system... JMO...

**FRANK WHITE** · 02-07-2004, 09:00 AM

Really good posts, thanks.

**spywizard** · 02-07-2004, 09:05 AM

Yep... in the middle of my 1st real cycle..

and already have the GH ordered............. week 1-999,999

Good one Ronny.........

Originally Posted by Terinox

Ronny, excellent post! All so true, especially number 9!!

And to add to the list...

Masturbation does NOT make you go blind (although my ears get clogged up weird).

**tryingtogetbig** · 02-07-2004, 09:07 AM

This one always gets me...

"My buddy did a deca only cycle and loved it, so you guys don't know what you are talking about!"

If you aren't going to take the advice given, especially since you asked for advice, don't even ask the question to begin with. Wasting yours and mine time.

peace,

ttgb

**Carlos_E** · 02-07-2004, 09:29 AM

My favorite is

"A big bro at the gym told me to take this. I don't know what it is, there's no label. But he's huge, he knows what he's talking about."

**hoss827** · 02-07-2004, 10:37 AM

Good post Ronny...I like # 9 and 20 Best.

--Hoss

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 02-07-2004, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Warrior

From my post in this thread were we discussed the endocrine system and emotions last October:

There was a study done (1993) that found men higher in endogenous testosterone production were less likely to marry; once married, they are more likely to leave home because of trouble marital relations, extramarital sex, hitting or throwing things at their spouses, and experiencing a lower quality of marital interaction.

Another study (1991) tested male offenders. Offenders high in testosterone commited more violent crimes, were judged more harshly by the parole board, and violated prison rules more often than those low in testosterone. Interesting enough, as cortisol concentraions increased, the corelation between testosterone and violent behavior dropped. This could be explained from less testosterone aromatizing to estrogen and instead binding to glucocorticoid receptors... since estrogen aromatization has been linked to increased aggressiveness...

To see a how hormone levels effect our general disposition, you can just look at the differences in men and women. A survey (1991) of 560 college age men and woman found significant gender differences. Adult men reported more physical and verbal aggression than did woman. Men also had higher scores on measures of impulsivity and lack of frustration tollerance than did woman, while woman were more likely to avoid confrontation.

Winning vs Losing - I was just looking at two other studies that looked at the responses to winning and losing that shared the same results. "Winners had higher testosterone levels than the losers - with no significant difference in close and decisive contests. Mood was depressed in decisive losers... perception to winning or losing, regardless of actual performance, differtially influenced testosterone levels but not cortisol levels, and that changes are not simply general arousal effects but are related to mood and status change (1989)." "Winners reported more positive mood change and higher testosterone levels than did a neutral group that did not win or lose money (1992).

BTW "Roid Rage" is just media hype. There is NO EXCUSE FOR LOSING YOUR TEMPER OR BECOMING IRRATIONAL - if you can't control yourself as is - don't go dumping more hormones into your system... JMO...

There`s too many other variables to take into consideration. But I know which studies you`re talking about. It`s an uncontrolled group.

**nevaenuf** · 02-07-2004, 08:04 PM

My favorite myth is

"Im going to turn all this fat into muscle"

You cant turn fat into muscle. You have to do cardio to get rid of the fat and weight train to build muscle.

**Animal Cracker** · 02-08-2004, 12:03 PM

How about." If I up the Test..will it overpower the Estrogen from the other shots of test?....I mean, what a better anti-e than test right?"

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 02-08-2004, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by BamaSlamma

How about." If I up the Test..will it overpower the Estrogen from the other shots of test?....I mean, what a better anti-e than test right?"

Haha, I've never heard that one before.

**groverman1** · 02-09-2004, 07:47 AM

Excellent post funny as hell.

**Animal Cracker** · 02-09-2004, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL

Haha, I've never heard that one before.

I have seen this jackass question on a couple of boards..more than once! No wonder so many newbies are posting " I have gyno symptoms...am I fuc*ed?"

**Duct Tape** · 02-09-2004, 10:04 AM

Pet Peeve---> F@CK I hate illiterates, soooo.......

I can go on a diet and LOSE weight, it's great because my clothes are now LOOSE.

Seems that more and more people are dropping out of school in the f&@$ing 3rd grade!!

I know we have a lot (not alot, thought you'd catch me on that but I'm too smart for you!) of Europeans here so I'll cut you some slack.

**spywizard** · 02-09-2004, 01:05 PM

bumping this for ronny...........

well........it's funny..........

in the ring

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 02-09-2004, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Duct Tape

I know we have a lot (not alot, thought you'd catch me on that but I'm too smart for you!) of Europeans here so I'll cut you some slack.

Try a lot bro

Ok I just had too

**Carlos_E** · 02-09-2004, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

bumping this for ronny...........

well........it's funny..........

in the ring

Please remove that s hit. It's going a bit far don't you think? I don't want to see your self portrait.

**spywizard** · 02-09-2004, 01:43 PM

thanks............. sometimes the line gets blurred......

and the image was one from a thread 3 years ago....

mostly by cy................

self portrait...........???

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Please remove that s hit. It's going a bit far don't you think? I don't want to see your self portrait.