were is this country going? (USA) ive lost my faith in the usa

[tryingtogain]

Now after ephedra is being banned so will andro. Ive gone to every store and you cant get it anymore and its only a matter of time now before its banned. No one has died from it or has had a stroke. Sure it may not be the best thing but I believe in this country we are loosing are freedom. It was ephedra now prohormones whats next creatine? This is BS. This country is going down the tube. American the free country? yea right now anymore im fed up

[tryingtogain]

so since its illegal i guess there gonna fine people who sell it and possible have lage quantities of it or throw them in jail how stupid

[BOUNCER]

You can buy steroids OTC in Iraq, even before it too was 'free'

[jon rock]

I went to the health food store when they were taking ephedra off the shelves
and got a box of X-plode 300mg ephedra pills from the dumpster out back.

[juicehoe]

If they take creatine there will be massive backlash! I think we need to start an interest group

[bigbouncinballs]

If this is the biggest complaint you have, you might want to take a look at some of those third world countries. They got a lot more problems than, "i can't believe i can't buy my ephedrine anymore."
just my .02

[monster.]

Andro is garbage, and ephedra is garbage..

It's called steroids , ster-O-ids.. They are awesome, you should try them!!!

[Phillyboy1]

Andro is garbage, and ephedra is garbage..

It's called steroids , ster-O-ids.. They are awesome, you should try them!!!

hahahaha sooo freaking true. i stoped buying stuff from GNC. only thing i get there is protein and cell tech. everything else i use falls under that steroid clause lol

[LORDBLiTZ]

I went to the health food store when they were taking ephedra off the shelves
and got a box of X-plode 300mg ephedra pills from the dumpster out back.

Why would they be throwing it out in Canada?

[RP7]

If you're sick of the states man come up here to Canada. You can be my workout partner.

Sure, ephedra and PHs are already banned here, but on the plus side we have free health care if you ever swallow too much winny. Now aint that a plus!!!

[RageControl]

Andro is garbage, and ephedra is garbage..

It's called steroids , ster-O-ids.. They are awesome, you should try them!!!

that about sums up my opinion on this matter.

[pumped99]

If you're sick of the states man come up here to Canada. You can be my workout partner.

Sure, ephedra and PHs are already banned here, but on the plus side we have free health care if you ever swallow too much winny. Now aint that a plus!!!

Too bad Canada is farther down the *****er than the US.

[Cycleon]

if your so upset - why didnt you bitch about it when it really mattered? ie, when they DEA listed STEROIDS !!!!! this other crap is worthless anyway

[tryingtogetbig]

hahahaha sooo freaking true. i stoped buying stuff from GNC. only thing i get there is protein and cell tech. everything else i use falls under that steroid clause lol

buy your protien at allsportsnutrition.

See my signature.

[LORDBLiTZ]

Too bad Canada is farther down the *****er than the US.

How do you figure that? It's legal to use steroids and smoke pot here. Oh yeah, and free health care.

[monstercojones]

How do you figure that? It's legal to use steroids and smoke pot here. Oh yeah, and free health care.

and its not being run by an idiot murderer.

[monster.]

How do you figure that? It's legal to use steroids and smoke pot here. Oh yeah, and free health care.

It's legal to use steroids in Canada? NO SH!T, I never knew that, i heard about the chronic, and the health care, but steroids are legal..

News to me

[LORDBLiTZ]

Legal for personal use only. If you get caught selling them, you're ****ed!

[monster.]

Legal for personal use only. If you get caught selling them, you're ****ed!

That is cool, my buddy explained to me about the weed.. You guys don't have as much to worry about.. I never knew that about the sauce, health care is also a nice bonus.. If i see myself moving to Canada permanently it would only be because of Tim Horton Donuts... those are good as fuk..

[groverman1]

This country is has it's share of problems, that's for sure. But I say to all LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. I have been to over 13 different countries some for extended periods of time and I will tell you this country plain and simple is'nt that bad.

[groverman1]

Go move to France with Johnny Depp or England with Madonna.

[Superhuman]

maybe I could live in Canada for the summer and US for the winter.... what's customs like? Can u bring AS from Canada to the US like from Mexico?

[LORDBLiTZ]

You can't buy AS in canada. You can only use it. You can bring a 90 day supply back with you from mexico tho.

[Superhuman]

k thanks bro

[RP7]

Too bad Canada is farther down the *****er than the US.

Oh now thats a reach. Guess who ran your country into record deficits this year. A stupid texan who is as articulate as my 12 year old brother. I'm by no means anti-USA, I love your country for the most part. But a statement like that is just plain ignorance. What justified that comment?

That is cool, my buddy explained to me about the weed.. You guys don't have as much to worry about.. I never knew that about the sauce, health care is also a nice bonus.. If i see myself moving to Canada permanently it would only be because of Tim Horton Donuts... those are good as fuk..

Hell yeah bro. Free health care. Tim Hortons coffee (and donuts). Less violence. You can do your sauce in peace here. Come on, I need a new training partner

[bigbouncinballs]

and its not being run by an idiot murderer.

yeah, just an idiot... keep dodging those foriegn confilicts canucks.

[RP7]

yeah, just an idiot... keep dodging those foriegn confilicts canucks.

Was that a compliment or an insult?

If it was infact an insult then you personify a completely misled downright wrong perspective. Canada has in the last 10 or so years:

-been the ONLY country to participate in EVERY U.N. peacekeeping campaign since the U.N.'s formation
-participated alongside the USA as of recently in: Gulf War I (provided aircraft and naval support)
-Kosovo (more air support and humanitarian relief)
-Bosnia and the former Yugoslavia (still has a peacekeeping prescense since it began in the early 90s... of which I have several friends on tour now)
-assisted the US in Afghanistan (special forces worked alongside the american in ridding the Taliban, and we are in our second cycle of tours in maintaining stability in the country), also providing air support and naval escorts in the local vicinity

All this while being SERIOUSLY underfunded. I know this first hand as I have been an army reservist for 3 years now. Our troops are stretched thin.

We may not have the world's historically largest military budget like you, but our intentions are well though out and noble. We have stood by the USA and our allies time and time again. We declared war in 1939 against Nazi Germany. Never has our government faultered when the world called on us.

This is total disrespect and ignorance.

[Tock]

This country is has it's share of problems, that's for sure. But I say to all LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

Why leave it?
IMHO, it'd be better to LOVE IT and CHANGE IT.
Voting day in November would be a good day to start . . .
--Tock

[50%Natural]

Why leave it?
IMHO, it'd be better to LOVE IT and CHANGE IT.
Voting day in November would be a good day to start . . .
--Tock

that is a good way to view it, but we all know that the media/govt declared war on any performance enhancing products long ago. With the way that activists and lobbyiest control the actions of congress, we unfortunately will see no change that we like regarding this topic. Sad but true. We lost this fight for personal rights(regarding steroids , ph, and ephedra) the second an athelete overdosed or died.

[Tock]

Was that a compliment or an insult?

If it was infact an insult then you personify a completely misled downright wrong perspective. Canada has in the last 10 or so years:

-been the ONLY country to participate in EVERY U.N. peacekeeping campaign since the U.N.'s formation
-participated alongside the USA as of recently in: Gulf War I (provided aircraft and naval support)
-Kosovo (more air support and humanitarian relief)
-Bosnia and the former Yugoslavia (still has a peacekeeping prescense since it began in the early 90s... of which I have several friends on tour now)
-assisted the US in Afghanistan (special forces worked alongside the american in ridding the Taliban, and we are in our second cycle of tours in maintaining stability in the country), also providing air support and naval escorts in the local vicinity

All this while being SERIOUSLY underfunded. I know this first hand as I have been an army reservist for 3 years now. Our troops are stretched thin.

We may not have the world's historically largest military budget like you, but our intentions are well though out and noble. We have stood by the USA and our allies time and time again. We declared war in 1939 against Nazi Germany. Never has our government faultered when the world called on us.

This is total disrespect and ignorance.

Yah, Canada is cool . . . more ways than one . . .
-Tock

[bigbouncinballs]

"Oh now thats a reach. Guess who ran your country into record deficits this year. A stupid texan who is as articulate as my 12 year old brother."
"This is total disrespect and ignorance."

You said it best yourself, RP7.

[bermich]

If this is the biggest complaint you have, you might want to take a look at some of those third world countries. They got a lot more problems than, "i can't believe i can't buy my ephedrine anymore."
just my .02

So just because 3rd world countries have bigger problems mean we have to be treated like children here and told what we can and cant do to our own bodies?
Is this a comparison to see which country can be ALMOST as close to a 3rd world country while still thinking it is a free country?

Im sure he could complain about other stuff such as the patriot act or wire tapping for EVERYONE but he chose to discuss ephedra in this thread.

[bermich]

"Oh now thats a reach. Guess who ran your country into record deficits this year. A stupid texan who is as articulate as my 12 year old brother."
"This is total disrespect and ignorance."

You said it best yourself, RP7.

And once again a simple ephedra thread gets turned into Bush haters.
Can you people restrain your immaturity towards politics long enough to stay on topic longer than one minute?

[RP7]

"Oh now thats a reach. Guess who ran your country into record deficits this year. A stupid texan who is as articulate as my 12 year old brother."
"This is total disrespect and ignorance."

You said it best yourself, RP7.

The first comment was stemmed from pumped99's comment. My opinion on Bush is not akin to being against the USA... I already said I loved the country; but come on, you're blaming me for ripping on Bush? Why don't you go write Jay Leno a letter or something.

I don't know how you took a making fun of Bush comment as disrespectful or ignorant. I took your comment regarding Canadian foreign policy as such though.

[Superhuman]

I like Bush a lot, I'm gonna vote for him. I just disagree with some of his decisions, such as to address steroids as bad in the SOTU address. I love the USA, and I'll die for my country. Even though there are some things that could be better, I still have a wonderful life. I'm bigger than everyone I know, I get to work out whenever I want, I get to eat good food, I get to have sex with fine girls, I get to go to church and practice my religion (Catholicism), and I can get a good education. We have become so decadent and spoiled that we don't realize what we actually do have, just want we don't have. When is the last time you thanked God for what he has given you? When is the last time you looked up at the sky and smiled? Americans can never be happy! Part of this is due to the media... everything is a freakin contraversy oh no! Who gives a rat's ass if Martha Stewart goes to jail? Who cares if Ben Affleck is breaking up with Jennifer Lopez? Lets think of some good news for once in a while. Why does everybody have to be so ****ed angry? We got people in the ghettos acting all hard and shootin people up. We got psycho f*ckheads murdering their whole family. We have videos for sale called "faces of death", all showing people getting killed. What is happening to our country. What happened to the idea of Love, Happiness, Freedom, and Liberty? Everything now is about Sex, Drugs, Violence, War, and Homosexuality. I think everybody here should take a look at themselves, take a look at their lives, and evaluate it. What is the most important thing to you? What makes you happy?

[RP7]

What is the most important thing to you? What makes you happy?

Beer and chewing tobacco.

[Superhuman]

Beer and chewing tobacco.

[Tock]

Anyone else notice the hypocrisy of this post . . .
First he says,

. . . I get to have sex with fine girls, I get to go to church and practice my religion (Catholicism),

And then he laments about:

Everything now is about Sex, Drugs, Violence, War, and Homosexuality.

IMHO, it's a weak mind that extols the happy pleasures of promiscuity and taking liberties with his church's position on sex, while lambasting other people taking similar liberties with "Sex, Drugs (while no stranger to AS) and Homosexuality (a virtue he aparrantly deems offensive, perhaps, because it's the only vice he does not understand)."


--Tock

[navydevildoc]

Was that a compliment or an insult?

If it was infact an insult then you personify a completely misled downright wrong perspective. Canada has in the last 10 or so years:

-been the ONLY country to participate in EVERY U.N. peacekeeping campaign since the U.N.'s formation
-participated alongside the USA as of recently in: Gulf War I (provided aircraft and naval support)
-Kosovo (more air support and humanitarian relief)
-Bosnia and the former Yugoslavia (still has a peacekeeping prescense since it began in the early 90s... of which I have several friends on tour now)
-assisted the US in Afghanistan (special forces worked alongside the american in ridding the Taliban, and we are in our second cycle of tours in maintaining stability in the country), also providing air support and naval escorts in the local vicinity

All this while being SERIOUSLY underfunded. I know this first hand as I have been an army reservist for 3 years now. Our troops are stretched thin.

We may not have the world's historically largest military budget like you, but our intentions are well though out and noble. We have stood by the USA and our allies time and time again. We declared war in 1939 against Nazi Germany. Never has our government faultered when the world called on us.

This is total disrespect and ignorance.

Yup, I can back this up... i was in Kosovo twice (the "hot conflict" at the time... I wish we could go back to that). The second time I went we stayed at Camp Canada. They canucks had their **** together like no one else, and they were great guys to hang with. Only the Brits do it better, having Beer and all.

If I had to leave paradise (AKA San Diego) and move somewhere else, it would be Vancouver. I love it there!

Anyway, the whole Ando thing is pretty BS. But then, as some have said, don't screw with the little stuff. If you are gonna do it, do it right.

[bigbouncinballs]

And once again a simple ephedra thread gets turned into Bush haters.
Can you people restrain your immaturity towards politics long enough to stay on topic longer than one minute?

follow the thread buddy, i'm not a bush-hater, nor did i turn this into political propaganda. that quote was said by RP7.
my only point is that i would personally feel like a spoiled little bitch complainin' about the "loss of freedom" when i've got it soooo **** good.
Immature?
whaddya think, Bermich?