58 yr. old male

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 08:57 AM

I'm 58 and experiencing low energy levels and hip joint pain. I've been reading the educational threads and the Novice/Intermediate cycle info. I have access to a mail order clinic that offers a limited number of products. They only stock Test, Deca , HGH, Arimidex , Anastrozole and HCG . A sample cycle would be Test, Deca, Arimidex and HCG. What are your opinions on this cycle? My intent is to alleviate my symptoms and help with some muscle development. Do you think I need access to a wider range of products? Thanks.

**kronik** · 05-30-2004, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by rtn

I'm 58 and experiencing low energy levels and hip joint pain. I've been reading the educational threads and the Novice/Intermediate cycle info. I have access to a mail order clinic that offers a limited number of products. They only stock Test, Deca, HGH, Arimidex, Anastrozole and HCG. A sample cycle would be Test, Deca, Arimidex and HCG. What are your opinions on this cycle? My intent is to alleviate my symptoms and help with some muscle development. Do you think I need access to a wider range of products? Thanks.

Do you have workout plan in place now? If so how long?

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 09:08 AM

Currently I only have a pair of dumbbells and a generic "Total Gym". I used to train heavy when I was younger. Worked out with a powerlifting Sr. National Champion. My knees can't take squats and leg presses any more. I live around the corner from a World Gym so I do have access to good equipment.

**kronik** · 05-30-2004, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by rtn

Currently I only have a pair of dumbbells and a generic "Total Gym". I used to train heavy when I was younger. Worked out with a powerlifting Sr. National Champion. My knees can't take squats and leg presses any more. I live around the corner from a World Gym so I do have access to good equipment.

I really dont think AS is the way you need to go at this time..You need to have diet cardio and exercise in place well before you do this. See what you can do naturally for a couple of months and then consider AS but It want help with the hip pain directly and if everything else is not in check you will just add Body fat and I know this is not what you want.. Maybe some of the more experienced bros can help you out further.

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 09:21 AM

kronik -

Thanks for your reply. My depleted energy levels may be due to normal aging. I had my Test level checked 4 yrs. ago - It was then around 420.

**daem** · 05-30-2004, 09:26 AM

at 58, a cycle of 400mg Test along wtih 300mg of Deca would help add the slight amount of muscle he wants and also could alleviate the hip/joint pain.

if he used to hit the weights hard in the past, he could jump right back in with a small cycle since he isn't exactly a beginner.

my only other suggestion would be to stay away from those mail order clinics because the price is just ridiculous.

if you decide to go the enhanced route then post your prices before you buy so we can help you decide whether or not to use this place you know of.

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 09:43 AM

Here are some of the prices. They discount it a little if you package them together.

200mg/ml 10ml Deca - $150
200mg/ml 10ml Test Cyp - $90
Arimidex 1mg/30 - $8
HCG 10,000 units/10 ml - $80

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 09:47 AM

All prices include enough syringes for the duration of the cycle.

**kronik** · 05-30-2004, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by rtn

Here are some of the prices. They discount it a little if you package them together.

200mg/ml 10ml Deca - $150
200mg/ml 10ml Test Cyp - $90
Arimidex 1mg/30 - $8
HCG 10,000 units/10 ml - $80

way to **** much bro...

**kronik** · 05-30-2004, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by daem

at 58, a cycle of 400mg Test along wtih 300mg of Deca would help add the slight amount of muscle he wants and also could alleviate the hip/joint pain.

if he used to hit the weights hard in the past, he could jump right back in with a small cycle since he isn't exactly a beginner.

my only other suggestion would be to stay away from those mail order clinics because the price is just ridiculous.

if you decide to go the enhanced route then post your prices before you buy so we can help you decide whether or not to use this place you know of.

I'm not trying to be an ass but it could have 30-35 yrs. ago when he hit the weights hard.. I still go natural for a while and see how it goes.

**rtn** · 05-30-2004, 09:57 AM

I stopped training about 8 yrs. ago. Just getting back into it.

**Steroids101** · 05-30-2004, 10:11 AM

I would say test/deca and if you go to a doctor you could probably get GH if you so wanted. Your also going to need PCT, unless you go the HRT rought (after the cycle of course) from a Doc.

**beeffreak6** · 05-30-2004, 09:49 PM

that price sounds good if u know that the juice is legit along with the hgh. If u get it from a reliable source u might get better prices but u might wait longer too. Or u might not get what u ordered. Just my exp. But i do have good sources who have great prices but if it sounds too good then it is too good to be true!

**BDTR** · 05-30-2004, 09:52 PM

HGH + low dose HRT would do you wonders. I'd also be monitored by a doctor. Check out the over 30 forum and post your question there, you'll be able to get a lot more help from the old guys

**Lozgod** · 05-30-2004, 09:54 PM

Those prices are clinic prices. When I forst got in to juice I consulted a clinic. The prices were higher than that. I doubt 58 yo men are on the inside with the UG labs. No offense to the thread starter intended. Living to be 58 is a great thing I hope I accomplish.