2nd cycle starting in august

[rugbyking]

WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED
WK 1-8 Fina 75 mgs ED
WK 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

Clomid PCT 300x1,100x10, 50x10
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED ,and 20 mgs ED at pct.
b-6 @ 200 mgs ED
b12 500mcg ED


question, is there an injectable form of b6 or do you just take pills for that?
i think that covers everything


any suggestions?

[rugbyking]

shameless bump
but really though, would test prop be ok or would test enathate be a better choice??

[TheMudMan]

What are your goals if it's to cut then stick with Prop because either way you need to do ED injections....... but if it's to bulk then Enan would be a better choice.,........ IMO there's no need for D-bol in this cycle to jump start it....... the Prop and Fina will be more than enough.

Also, there isn't a injectable form of B6 just pill

[SportsMedVIP]

Uhh... yeah. Mudman said everything I was going to. I'll be leaving now.

[rugbyking]

[QUOTE=rugbyking]WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED
WK 1-8 Fina 75 mgs ED
WK 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

Clomid PCT 300x1,100x10, 50x10
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED ,and 20 mgs ED at pct.
b-6 @ 200 mgs ED
b12 500mcg ED



would it be better if i ran the fina in mid cycle after i stopped the dbol ? run it for like 4 weeks and finish up with 2 more weeks(10 weeks) of test so its not so harsh on my hpta???


WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED or Test Enathate 500mg/wk??
WK 4-8 Fina 75 mgs ED
WK 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

[SportsMedVIP]

[QUOTE=rugbyking]

WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED
WK 1-8 Fina 75 mgs ED
WK 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

Clomid PCT 300x1,100x10, 50x10
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED ,and 20 mgs ED at pct.
b-6 @ 200 mgs ED
b12 500mcg ED



would it be better if i ran the fina in mid cycle after i stopped the dbol ? run it for like 4 weeks and finish up with 2 more weeks(10 weeks) of test so its not so harsh on my hpta???


WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED or Test Enathate 500mg/wk??
WK 4-8 Fina 75 mgs ED
WK 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

Ok I didn't leave. That's too short for Fina. You want atleast 8 weeks. Beat that Mudman!

[TheMudMan]

No this is what I would do

1 - 12 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 10 Fina 75mg ED

Dump the D-bol and if you want add something else like var or winny

[rugbyking]

so something like this would be better?
WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED
WK 1-8 Fina 75 mgs ED

Clomid PCT 300x1,100x10, 50x10
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED ,and 20 mgs ED at pct.
b-6 @ 200 mgs ED
b12 500mcg ED

another ? is it ok to run fina for 8 weeks, i want to have some testicles left when i finish??

[TheMudMan]

Ok I didn't leave. That's too short for Fina. You want atleast 8 weeks. Beat that Mudman!

I like a minimum of 10 weeks with fina

[SportsMedVIP]

so something like this would be better?
WK 1-10 prop 100 mgs ED
WK 1-8 Fina 75 mgs ED

Clomid PCT 300x1,100x10, 50x10
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED ,and 20 mgs ED at pct.
b-6 @ 200 mgs ED
b12 500mcg ED

another ? is it ok to run fina for 8 weeks, i want to have some testicles left when i finish??

Yeah bro, atleast 8 weeks. Some run fina for 14 or so. Just use some HCG for the boys and you'll be fine with what you've got lined up for PCT.

[rugbyking]

i just did finished my pct from my first cycle and everything got ****ed up . i shot up to 209lbs and now ime around 203 starting at 194lbs .. ok i guess. but i would like to get up to a solid 210-215. i play rugby and need to still be able to move

[SportsMedVIP]

i just did finished my pct from my first cycle and everything got ****ed up . i shot up to 209lbs and now ime around 203 starting at 194lbs .. ok i guess. but i would like to get up to a solid 210-215. i play rugby and need to still be able to move

Sorry what'd you say. I was distracted by your avatar's *ss.

[rugbyking]

ive never researched hcg , could you send me a link to some info on it. its injectable isnt it? prolly not something you would get from a site that sells liquid clomid and **** right?

[TheMudMan]

i just did finished my pct from my first cycle and everything got ****ed up . i shot up to 209lbs and now ime around 203 starting at 194lbs .. ok i guess. but i would like to get up to a solid 210-215. i play rugby and need to still be able to move

Bro...... you only gained 9lbs on your first cycle? What did that cycle look like?

[rugbyking]

i got cheated by my dealer(my girlfriend at the time) and only got sust for 5 weeks. i made fina homebrew and started it at like wk 3 till wk 7 and i think the clomid she sold me was fake so i bought liquid clomid. it really pissed me off. it seems like i learn the info i need a little to late. i will just make my own prop and fina is like baking a cake to make so ill just take that. its amazing how much access i have to this stuff. since i started my cycle i know of 3 dealers in my gym now. never thought this stuff was really all over the place. i just want to make sure i get it right this time thats why all the ?s

[rugbyking]

you mentioned adding winstrol , how would you work that into the cycle? dont you usually add it to the end ?

[TheMudMan]

you mentioned adding winstrol, how would you work that into the cycle? dont you usually add it to the end ?

Yes it would be at the end........ but it depends on what your goals are........ How much weight are you looking to gain? Do you want this cycle to be for lean mass or bulk?

[rugbyking]

i want to add solid muscle that is retainable so i want lean mass

[rugbyking]

would a prop/fina cycle be better for bulking or cutting. i want to know so i can adjust my calorie intake accordingly thx!

[general31]

Add some b5 for zits. I started out only taking two a day and got some acne, I uped it to three a day and good bye acne!

[juiceinthehood]

how about adding some eq
will give u lean gains that stay with u longer