Test levels test back.

[Demon Deacon]

I got my test level test back from the doctors. He said that they are perfect. My test level was 463 he said normal range was 200-800. So this doesnt really help explain my loss of my sex drive. Know i am assuming that since my levels are back to normal then i have recovered from my last cycle. So why the hell cant i maintain an erection? Anyways he is sending me to a urologist to have more tests done on me.

[MotoLifter]

I got my test level test back from the doctors. He said that they are perfect. My test level was 463 he said normal range was 200-800. So this doesnt really help explain my loss of my sex drive. Know i am assuming that since my levels are back to normal then i have recovered from my last cycle. So why the hell cant i maintain an erection? Anyways he is sending me to a urologist to have more tests done on me.

Maybe your tired of your ole lady bro.

[hung-solo]

I got my test level test back from the doctors. He said that they are perfect. My test level was 463 he said normal range was 200-800. So this doesnt really help explain my loss of my sex drive. Know i am assuming that since my levels are back to normal then i have recovered from my last cycle. So why the hell cant i maintain an erection? Anyways he is sending me to a urologist to have more tests done on me.

there are so many factors with that. from, stress, lack of interest, wacking too much, heart and circulation problems, so much more. keep us posted man please.. good luck and i hope everything rises to the occasion!!lol peace

[Demon Deacon]

No old lady anymore. Single. But that doesnt mean that my sex drive should be down and out.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I got my test level test back from the doctors. He said that they are perfect. My test level was 463 he said normal range was 200-800. So this doesnt really help explain my loss of my sex drive. Know i am assuming that since my levels are back to normal then i have recovered from my last cycle. So why the hell cant i maintain an erection? Anyways he is sending me to a urologist to have more tests done on me.

Bro, at least you know your levels are almost back to normal. At your age, you should be wanting sex constantly.....Did your Dr. know you did a cycle???

[Demon Deacon]

No, his assistant always comments on my size when i come in. Today she was like do you do steroids and i said no. Then the doc came in and told me everything was normal. He just asked me what over the counter supplements i took. Then said to stay away from ephedra and creatine because they are known to lower sex drive.

[KAEW44]

maybe because you were shut down for a while you were forced to be unable to get it up, now that yo have recovered fully you are physically capable of gettng it up but maybe its just the conditioning from when you couldnt that is giving you a 'hard' time.....i think that was a pun too...i'm getting good at this

[Demon Deacon]

He offered me viagara and then rescinded his offer saying at my age that is just wrong.

[hung-solo]

He offered me viagara and then rescinded his offer saying at my age that is just wrong.

honestly i would be straight up with him.. he cant say shiit..it is his job to help so he will.. hell he might be cool and help you out in more ways than one.. never know till you ask..

[johnsomebody]

Has your doc asked you about depression? If you're psychologically out of it it can cause that kinda malfunction, from what I've both read and experienced myself. I've discovered I'm lousy in bed no matter how much test I'm on if I'm feeling down on myself.

[Demon Deacon]

Has your doc asked you about depression? If you're psychologically out of it it can cause that kinda malfunction, from what I've both read and experienced myself. I've discovered I'm lousy in bed no matter how much test I'm on if I'm feeling down on myself.

Nope hasnt ask me about it.

[scotttiger54]

personally i feel that you should confide in your dr. and tell him about you just coming off of a cycle recently and ask if this could be effecting you in any way. imo honesty is the best policy with those guys. if you tell him about your cycle then maybe he could pinpoint exactly what it may be.

[Eddie8]

Demon.... I didn’t catch how old you are. Was everything working well before your last cycle? For that matter was everything working well during your last cycle? Did this only pop up, or not pop up (Ha, sorry) after your cycle was over? How about the jewels, are they back up to full volume? As far as your doc goes, unless he is a specialist in Endo or a Urologist I don't think he can help much, although he can refer you out.

[bluethunder]

Total test means crap. Did he check free test levels? Also what about estrogen? If the ratio of test/estrodiol is bad that will do it. Ratio in young men are average 50/1. The free test is perhaps 3% of the total level. If the free test is low then he may need to check the SHBG (sex hormone globulin I think). also if you drink alcohol it will affect the liver P450 system which can cause hovoc to all homonal balance. good luck

[einstein1905]

Total test means crap. Did he check free test levels? Also what about estrogen? If the ratio of test/estrodiol is bad that will do it. Ratio in young men are average 50/1. The free test is perhaps 3% of the total level. If the free test is low then he may need to check the SHBG (sex hormone globulin I think). also if you drink alcohol it will affect the liver P450 system which can cause hovoc to all homonal balance. good luck

Very well put and exactly right. Also, prolactin levels are often overlooked

[Demon Deacon]

Demon.... I didn’t catch how old you are. Was everything working well before your last cycle? For that matter was everything working well during your last cycle? Did this only pop up, or not pop up (Ha, sorry) after your cycle was over? How about the jewels, are they back up to full volume? As far as your doc goes, unless he is a specialist in Endo or a Urologist I don't think he can help much, although he can refer you out.

I am 21 years old. i did my first cycle when i was 19 of deca only and tapered it. At one point i was taking 1200mgs a week. It was an 8 wk cycle. No PCT after. My sex drive was through the roof during this cycle. Then after i got off of the deca my sex drive went down into the basement. I waited 7 to 8 months for my next cycle, all along my sex drive was extremely low. I then started another cycle which was for 10 weeks and consisted of test e at 500mg/wk and eq at 400mg/wk. I ended the cycle with PCT of Clomid (standard 300/100/50) and nolva (which i took throughout the cycle) and tribulis. I also took ldex throughout the cycle. During the cycle my sex drive was still low. After PCT still low. Its been 5 to 6 months maybe since i ended and its still low. During the clomid use there were times that it seemed like everything was back to normal but that was close to the end of clomid therapy. So my libido is still low.

[Demon Deacon]

personally i feel that you should confide in your dr. and tell him about you just coming off of a cycle recently and ask if this could be effecting you in any way. imo honesty is the best policy with those guys. if you tell him about your cycle then maybe he could pinpoint exactly what it may be.

Honesty is always the best policy. But i am in no way going to have that on my charts when 1) I want to be a lawyer 2) if i dont do the attorney thing i want to go into the military 3) Want any insurance agencies to find out about my use and not cover me for something that could be linked to AS. Since i am only 21 that could affect me for a very long time. But i agree that would be the easiest way but either way if they find out what the problem is by me telling them about AS or they find by some other means it will get cured. So i will let them snoop around for awhile longer.

[sooners04]

Creatine lowers it? Cause I am having the same prob you are bro. Only good porn can get me going.

[KAEW44]

If all your levels turn out normal and you still can get it woking right then i suggest some super visual stimulation! i'm not talking about your regular hardcore porn here...i mean go to the pro's , the gporn your wives and girlfriends dont want you to see !!! the one and only very disturbed and unusually hardcore....4X instead of triple x rating...when you are ready for it, and if you think you are ready for it then visit the website of the company called the Evil Empire! i dont want to give the site because advertising porn could get me in trouble, but do simple search on evil empire/ evil angel adult movie company and see what they have to offer. Tell Rocco i sent you.

[Demon Deacon]

If all your levels turn out normal and you still can get it woking right then i suggest some super visual stimulation! i'm not talking about your regular hardcore porn here...i mean go to the pro's , the gporn your wives and girlfriends dont want you to see !!! the one and only very disturbed and unusually hardcore....4X instead of triple x rating...when you are ready for it, and if you think you are ready for it then visit the website of the company called the Evil Empire! i dont want to give the site because advertising porn could get me in trouble, but do simple search on evil empire/ evil angel adult movie company and see what they have to offer. Tell Rocco i sent you.

That is weird... If the Doc fails try quadruple X porn he says.

[joe_capone]

That is weird... If the Doc fails try quadruple X porn he says.

LMAOOOOO

[Demon Deacon]

So can i hit up another cycle since my test levels are normal or should i wait until the good ole' libido kicks back in?

[joe_capone]

wait bro.. give your body a nice long break to get used to itself without the indroduction of chemicals.

[iNvid]

He offered me viagara and then rescinded his offer saying at my age that is just wrong.

How old are you anyways?

[m16a2]

He offered me viagara and then rescinded his offer saying at my age that is just wrong.

What is your age. My bday is jan 8 too btw, i thought that was cool.

[m16a2]

P.S. your levels might not be back to normal yet. You should have really gotten a baseline nat levels done before you ever went on cycle. If you are having sides form low test, I would suggest staying off cycle until your 100%. I speak from experience, and I know how slow the recovery process can be. I have taken 4 months and come back @ 360. After 8 months of being off cycle, I came back with 860 natural test levels. Now the funny thing is that the doc told me that I'm normal, healthy and fine @ 360, but my sex drive was low and I couldn't maintain my erection either. For a temporary fix, use some cialis and trib. However, you might have to wait for the body to be recovered. Alot of bros on here will give you timing guidelines, I say fu(k timing guidelines, everyone's body is different. I trust the word on AR until facts prove them inconsistant. Lab results proved to me that recovery can be a longer process than many think.

[Pork Chop]

You should have told your doctor for him to make better assesments or maybe suggest doing other tests.

I tell mine everything.
What you tell him is strictly confidential - his license depends on this.

[Demon Deacon]

You should have told your doctor for him to make better assesments or maybe suggest doing other tests.

I tell mine everything.
What you tell him is strictly confidential - his license depends on this.

There are plenty of reasons why that can come back to haunt you.

[Pork Chop]

Paranoiya Bros.

Unless you tell him you plan on hurting someone or yourself, it stays confidential.

Are you planning on running for congress? Most politicians themselves admit to having smoked blunt.

Just advice for you to get better it's all.

[stitch1967]

P.S. your levels might not be back to normal yet. You should have really gotten a baseline nat levels done before you ever went on cycle. If you are having sides form low test, I would suggest staying off cycle until your 100%. I speak from experience, and I know how slow the recovery process can be. I have taken 4 months and come back @ 360. After 8 months of being off cycle, I came back with 860 natural test levels. Now the funny thing is that the doc told me that I'm normal, healthy and fine @ 360, but my sex drive was low and I couldn't maintain my erection either. For a temporary fix, use some cialis and trib. However, you might have to wait for the body to be recovered. Alot of bros on here will give you timing guidelines, I say fu(k timing guidelines, everyone's body is different. I trust the word on AR until facts prove them inconsistant. Lab results proved to me that recovery can be a longer process than many think.

Amen brutha, I've battled low test for a couple years now what the doc says is normal and what is best for you (especially as a bb or lifter in general) is sometimes quite different. Even docs disagree...it's all about free test and estrogen to test ratio per a certain age group. That's one things most docs don't take into account...they use the same ranges for 20-45 yr old men. And most do not test estroidal levels. Just my $.02.

BTW...cialis, viagra, or levitra is not going to have an adverse effect on you because of your age. Just to get you by until you get your test levels back to normal. In fact I didn't have any erectile function probs, but my urologists told me that the age does not matter as much as how early you start treating the problem and even if I really didn't need it , it wouldn't hurt me.

[Demon Deacon]

Paranoiya Bros.

Unless you tell him you plan on hurting someone or yourself, it stays confidential.

Are you planning on running for congress? Most politicians themselves admit to having smoked blunt.

Just advice for you to get better it's all.

I appreciate it. But insurance companies can get there hands on it and then decide not to pay your medical bills when something arises. Such as cancer. They will say that it developed from the illegal use of AS. Then have fun paying for chemo by yourself. Also weed isnt a scheduled drug like AS are. Weed is like stealing a candy bar when AS is like money laundering.

[Demon Deacon]

Amen brutha, I've battled low test for a couple years now what the doc says is normal and what is best for you (especially as a bb or lifter in general) is sometimes quite different. Even docs disagree...it's all about free test and estrogen to test ratio per a certain age group. That's one things most docs don't take into account...they use the same ranges for 20-45 yr old men. And most do not test estroidal levels. Just my $.02.

BTW...cialis, viagra, or levitra is not going to have an adverse effect on you because of your age. Just to get you by until you get your test levels back to normal. In fact I didn't have any erectile function probs, but my urologists told me that the age does not matter as much as how early you start treating the problem and even if I really didn't need it , it wouldn't hurt me.

Thanks for the input. When i go to the urologist i will tell him my doc didnt test for free test levels or test to estrogen level as well as prolactin levels. I am sure he will test for them if i ask him.

[Demon Deacon]

I might hit up some clomid as well. Maybe in an overtkill fashion. Such as 300mg for 7 days. 100mg for 60 days, 50 mg for another 60 days. What do you think?

[birsling]

I appreciate it. But insurance companies can get there hands on it and then decide not to pay your medical bills when something arises. Such as cancer. They will say that it developed from the illegal use of AS. Then have fun paying for chemo by yourself. Also weed isnt a scheduled drug like AS are. Weed is like stealing a candy bar when AS is like money laundering.

Demon, you are right about the insurance side of the business. I would seriously consider getting a copy of your test results and taking them to another doc. Somebody close to your family, or a friend of a friend. A doc that will look at it off the record and give you his personal/professional opinion. It is a good option for you to play both sides of the coin. You can get an off the record opinion, without putting something into your permanent medical record.

[Demon Deacon]

Demon, you are right about the insurance side of the business. I would seriously consider getting a copy of your test results and taking them to another doc. Somebody close to your family, or a friend of a friend. A doc that will look at it off the record and give you his personal/professional opinion. It is a good option for you to play both sides of the coin. You can get an off the record opinion, without putting something into your permanent medical record.

The doc i go to is the father of a kid i wrestled with. So i guess you could say he is a friend of the family which to me makes it harder for me to tell him I did/do steroids . But i know what you are saying.

[Eddie8]

I am in the insurance business and IMO you are 100% correct. You do not want this to be a part of your medical record, friend or not. As the one bro said, it is confidential but that information is traded around by other professionals within the confines of confidentiality. It will be checked into whenever you purchase insurance and probably will end up in the MIB (medical information bureau) which is a national data base where medical information is collected and held on all of us. It is used by medical providers, insurance companies and probably any other background check firm that is willing to pay for it.

I appreciate it. But insurance companies can get there hands on it and then decide not to pay your medical bills when something arises. Such as cancer. They will say that it developed from the illegal use of AS. Then have fun paying for chemo by yourself. Also weed isnt a scheduled drug like AS are. Weed is like stealing a candy bar when AS is like money laundering.

[Demon Deacon]

I am in the insurance business and IMO you are 100% correct. You do not want this to be a part of your medical record, friend or not. As the one bro said, it is confidential but that information is traded around by other professionals within the confines of confidentiality. It will be checked into whenever you purchase insurance and probably will end up in the MIB (medical information bureau) which is a national data base where medical information is collected and held on all of us. It is used by medical providers, insurance companies and probably any other background check firm that is willing to pay for it.

Good post

[Eddie8]

For what its worth, during my first cycle when I was 25 and using 200mg of test, then changing after 6 weeks to 100mg of deca I was totally fu**ed up on my sex drive. When I was on the cycle I had to have new pu**y to even get me cranked up enough to have sex. My girl friend just left me flat, literally. I didn’t know anything about PCT back then, 20 years ago. I came back OK but it took some time. I think that what the bro was saying about the porn is that some new or different stimulus may be what you need to get you going. The more that you can use the one eyed love snake the quicker you will come back. Use alone will stimulate test production. I would definitely not go on another cycle until you get back to normal and stay that way for a while, and that could take some time. There is nothing worth screwing up your ability to perform sexually IMO. You don’t want to be all show and no go. BTW, viagra is not a fix for a 21 year old, just a band aid.

[Eddie8]

Since he has completed PCT, I guess a while ago. Does anyone know what HCG would do to him? I know some HRT docs use it to boost test production through periodic injections. Another thing D, if you are overly worried about this you could be having some physiological issues. The way the guys talk about Deca and what it does to you and the fact that you were on a pretty strong Deca cycle, might this be fu**ing with you mentally. Just a thought.

[Demon Deacon]

Since he has completed PCT, I guess a while ago. Does anyone know what HCG would do to him? I know some HRT docs use it to boost test production through periodic injections. Another thing D, if you are overly worried about this you could be having some physiological issues. The way the guys talk about Deca and what it does to you and the fact that you were on a pretty strong Deca cycle, might this be fu**ing with you mentally. Just a thought.

My thoughts exactly. My friend just turned 21 today so we are planning a trip to the stripclubs. Perhaps i will find out tonight what the problem is. We will see.