Test levels test back.

**Eddie8** · 07-20-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Demon Deacon

My thoughts exactly. My friend just turned 21 today so we are planning a trip to the stripclubs. Perhaps i will find out tonight what the problem is. We will see.

Slap some a** for me and the bros and let us know how it goes. Sh**, I wish I was 21 again.

**johnsomebody** · 07-25-2004, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie8

Since he has completed PCT, I guess a while ago. Does anyone know what HCG would do to him? I know some HRT docs use it to boost test production through periodic injections. Another thing D, if you are overly worried about this you could be having some physiological issues. The way the guys talk about Deca and what it does to you and the fact that you were on a pretty strong Deca cycle, might this be fu**ing with you mentally. Just a thought.

From what I know about HCG is its real use is to reverse hypogonadism. It's HPTA suppressive itself, which is why you have to use Clomid AFTER using HCG not before. There was a good thread a while back about using Clomid if you have long term recovery problems.

**Demon Deacon** · 07-25-2004, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by johnsomebody

From what I know about HCG is its real use is to reverse hypogonadism. It's HPTA suppressive itself, which is why you have to use Clomid AFTER using HCG not before. There was a good thread a while back about using Clomid if you have long term recovery problems.

If the boys are still smaller than pre cycle would you suggest using hcg followed by a long use of clomid for my situation?

**dumblucky** · 07-25-2004, 06:43 PM

My answer is the tittie bar
of course that is my answer to all of lifes problems

**Eddie8** · 07-26-2004, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by dumblucky

My answer is the tittie bar
of course that is my answer to all of lifes problems

What happened at the titty bar. Did you get your Clinton up or what?

**Demon Deacon** · 07-26-2004, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie8

What happened at the titty bar. Did you get your Clinton up or what?

We never ended up going.

**johnsomebody** · 07-26-2004, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Demon Deacon

If the boys are still smaller than pre cycle would you suggest using hcg followed by a long use of clomid for my situation?

I'd sure give it a try if you're sure you're still considerably smaller than normal. I suppose since your test levels are okay your doc never checked for hypogonadism?

There are a few good threads up about using HCG and Clomid again post PCT if you look around. Here's a classic on HCG and Clomid post cycle:
http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...threadid=46574
Check out JohhnyB and esp Ichabodcrane's posts. But I know there's one on what to do when PCT doesn't "take", esp in reference to deca though I can't find it now.

**Demon Deacon** · 07-26-2004, 06:51 PM

The doc did not check for hypogonadism. I think i will try HCG in a few weeks followed by clomid again.

**johnsomebody** · 07-27-2004, 02:42 AM

Well good luck and keep us posted. I don't think it's that unusual to feel down after a cycle.

**Demon Deacon** · 07-27-2004, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by johnsomebody

Well good luck and keep us posted. I don't think it's that unusual to feel down after a cycle.

I have been off cycle for a while now.

**HeavyHitter** · 07-27-2004, 07:32 AM

****... i really wanted to hear what happened at the titi bar!!! I bet this whole thing is more mental then physical bro. Do you constantly think about not being able to get it up when the time comes... The best cure for this is to NOT THINK ABOUT IT. This happens to me all the time b/c i start freakin out on myself. try to clear your mind brotha youll be fine

**Demon Deacon** · 07-27-2004, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

****... i really wanted to hear what happened at the titi bar!!! I bet this whole thing is more mental then physical bro. Do you constantly think about not being able to get it up when the time comes... The best cure for this is to NOT THINK ABOUT IT. This happens to me all the time b/c i start freakin out on myself. try to clear your mind brotha youll be fine

yep constantly think about it.

**Eddie8** · 07-27-2004, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

****... i really wanted to hear what happened at the titi bar!!! I bet this whole thing is more mental then physical bro. Do you constantly think about not being able to get it up when the time comes... The best cure for this is to NOT THINK ABOUT IT. This happens to me all the time b/c i start freakin out on myself. try to clear your mind brotha youll be fine

Great advice.....its all in the big head ya know

**johnsomebody** · 07-28-2004, 01:17 PM

Yeah, that goes back to if you're test levels are okay it could just be what's inside your head not anywhere else.

Anyway, good luck DD. Don't be down on yourself whatever it is.