What Orals are best for fat burning plus getting rid or water?

**Elysium** · 07-27-2004, 04:57 PM

With a hard and focussed cardio routine, what orals would work the best to help cut down fat, Still keeping muscle?

**thejuiceisloose** · 07-27-2004, 05:05 PM

well no AS cuts down fat, technically. But you can go with winny orals 25mg tabs. Ihope you would through in some test in their as well.

**BodyMechanic** · 07-27-2004, 05:07 PM

clen and eca with a good diet and cardio.

**Consistency** · 07-27-2004, 05:08 PM

search anavar

**thejuiceisloose** · 07-27-2004, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

search anavar

good stuff..

**tetragrammaton1998** · 07-27-2004, 07:21 PM

Take t3 and a lot of protein supplements. or USNIC acid, you will burn 2 pounds every day.

**UnNaturalBuff** · 07-27-2004, 07:41 PM

what's usnic acid? I've never heard of this

**sinista63** · 07-27-2004, 07:45 PM

isn't that the herbal extract that the FDA has sent out warnings concerning reports of liver damage/failure?

**sinista63** · 07-27-2004, 07:51 PM

hm... stumbled upon this in my research

Fulminant liver failure due to usnic acid for weight loss.

Durazo FA, Lassman C, Han SH, Saab S, Lee NP, Kawano M, Saggi B, Gordon S, Farmer DG, Yersiz H, Goldstein RL, Ghobrial M, Busuttil RW.

Division of Digestive Diseases, Department of Medicin,; Dumont-UCLA Liver Transplant Center, University of California, Los Angeles, California 90095-9302, USA.

The use of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) in developed countries has increased significantly over the years. Among the most popular are the weight loss supplements or "fat burners." Liver failure due to these popular remedies has been widely recognized. Usnic acid has been an ingredient of dietary supplements that cause liver failure. Its hepatotoxicity has not been recognized because it is usually mixed with other ingredients that are presumably hepatotoxic. We describe a case of a 28-yr-old woman who presented with fulminant liver failure requiring orthotopic liver transplantation, after taking pure usnic acid for weight loss. This is the first report on fulminant liver failure associated with the ingestion of pure usnic acid. A discussion about hepatotoxicity of the different compounds of dietary supplements is presented. This is a reminder for the clinicians about the potential side effects of CAM.