Ok, Here I go.

[artcien]

I'm starting this week my first.

Week 1-10 EQ 150 mg TW
Week 2-11 Test E. 250 mg OW
Week 1-11 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 13 HCG 7500IU
Week 14 HCG 5000IU
Week 15 HCG 2500IU
Week 13-15 Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16 Clomid 50mg ED

right? wrong? suggestions?

[FullBlown]

Ummm, Even though this is your first cycle, i'd say up the test to 500/wk and the EQ to 400mg/wk...however, start TEST the SAME time as the EQ...and extended the test to at least 13 weeks and the EQ 12 weeks....i say this because your only gonna see EQ at its best after by 12 weeks....just my opinion..

FB

[Lozgod]

Just my opinion I think you should drop the Nolvadex to 10mg while on cycle. It has a low occurence of blood clots and 10mg should be sufficient to protect you from gyno. Like I said the incidence is low but why over do it. Like I said, it is just my opinion.

[ImmmtheIceman]

i dont see why your starting the EQ right away and the test in the second week. whats your logic behind that?

[dumblucky]

thats a crapload of HCG for that kind of cycle

[BeefCakeStew]

thats a crapload of HCG for that kind of cycle

Yeah. It isn't needed for that mild of a
cycle. Not only that, it should NOT be used during PCT because it is suppressive of the HTPA.

Even if he were going to use it. Those doses are way above what it necessary for restoring testicular atrophy, which is why we take it.

[BeefCakeStew]

1-13 Test E 250 mg 2x Wk
1-12 EQ 250mg 2x Wk --> mix with Test E and shoot
Nolva 10mg ED
Ldex .25mg ED

Pheedno's or Mudman's PCT 14 days after last prop shot.

For optimum results from EQ,extend the EQ to 15wks and E to 16wks and use HCG the last 4-5wks of cycle at 500iu's E4D or 500iu sat/sun. Stop HCG 1wk before clomid starts. This way you put the HCG to good use and get the most out of the compounds IMO. with an EQ and Test cycle at these low doses you could still get away with no HCG

If you stick with the 13wk'er just run 4g Trib ED and/or Tongkat Ali at 1-2g Ed slit between meals. These herbs should keep your boys plump

[artcien]

Wow this is great info! Thanks guys

I'm going to lower the PCT and go higher on EQ, I don't feel very confortable increasing on the test for now, until I see how my body reacts.

The reason for starting the EQ one week is because that's the way is shown on a cycle sample on my book, I gess that they put it that way to help the body get used to the roids. Do you guys think is important to change and start test at the same time to kick start better or it should't make much difference?

[ripsid]

I would drop the EQ all together if it's your first cycle, you'll see great gains running 500mg test for 12 weeks. Save the eq for your next cycle or run it as such:
1-12or 14- Test 500
1-12 - eq 400
liquidex @ .5 ed
pct clomid with 10mgs of nolva a day

You won't get everything out of your eq with less than 12 weeks of use that's why I say run the test alone then next cycle run more test with 600mg's of eq.
To run the test in your 1st cycle alone for 12wks would be good, you should see some great gains with just that.


SID