Advice needed please.

**Lama2004** · 08-20-2004, 05:20 PM

Hello everyone,

I'am curious to know what steroid /cycle would be best for me. I have

been lifting naturally for 2 years, I'm 18 years old, arm size is 15 inches, waist

33, BF% about 16%, and I my weight is 175lbs. I personally thought that I

should try to cut up till I see my abs clearly, but then I realized that I

probably should put on a bit more quality muscle before I attempt to do so.

My diet consists of 220 grams protein, 230-250 grams carbs, 10-15 grams

fat. One of my friends mentioned that I should take winstrol (injectable), but

I would like to hear others opinions as what to take since you guys are

obviously more experienced. I also forgot to mention that my goal in taking a

cycle/steroid is to put on alot of lean muscle.[Deleted].Any

advice is greatly appreciated.

PT · 08-20-2004, 05:21 PM

my advice is to wait 3 or 4 years

**max-it** · 08-20-2004, 05:23 PM

18 is too young. you can make plenty of gains naturally with proper diet and traning. wait until your 24, by then you will have built a solid foundation for aas use.

i don't think anyone will help you buy steroids . besides, any www selling steroids is almost certainly a scammer of some sort.

**thunder20** · 08-20-2004, 05:24 PM

wait a couple years and there is a good chance you are going to get a lot of pm's right now about buying steroids from sources....be very careful. also it is not allowed to discuss buying steroids on this site, take care bro and wait it out for a couple years

**not2bigyet** · 08-20-2004, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lama2004

I would also like to know

where the best pleace to buy steroids on the internet

**dumblucky** · 08-20-2004, 05:44 PM

steroids are illegal

**Lama2004** · 08-20-2004, 05:47 PM

I dont want to wait to take steroids anymore, I'm sick of being small. By the

way, I'am sorry for asking that noob question...I had no clue it wasn't

allowed.

**almostgone** · 08-20-2004, 05:54 PM

Bump up the protein by 25% or so, cut the carbs some, and see how much farther you can go .....you'll probably be surprised..I started my first cycle @ 39 years old; you got lots of time

**Lama2004** · 08-20-2004, 06:10 PM

I came here for advice on steroid usage, not a debate on what is morally correct. Im sorry if I sound like im being demanding or possibly intrusive, but I dont care if it's "bad" for me..I plan to do it regardless. I just need to know what cycle/steroid any of you guys think would be conveniant for me (based on my stats I mentioned at the begining of this thread).

**almostgone** · 08-20-2004, 06:25 PM

If you're going to do it anyway, make sure to read the PCT forum(PHEEDNO'sPCT) and get supplies, the best cycle for an 18 year old is none (IMO), so I'll have to leave that answer to more knowledgeable people???? good luck and be safe..and yes, I know my answer sucks..

**1-Cent** · 08-20-2004, 06:47 PM

175lbs isn't horrible weight wise, but 16% BF at 175lbs isn't great, I've seen some crazy looking 18 year olds that worked their asses off and got into gear *against* the advice of peers (see - buffteen on AR) but I have to say at least they had the dedication to get a good base going which shows they will succeed on AAS like bros such as buffteen did. I'm not supporting it either way, but if you're determined to do this at least get your crap together first, as it stands you aren't ready even if you were 30. AAS isn't a quick fix.

**chances** · 08-20-2004, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lama2004

... I dont care if it's "bad" for me..I plan to do it regardless...

What an ignorant thing to say. If there wasn't a better reason for you NOT to do them it's that quote right there. Were you stomping your feet and holding your breath when you wrote that? Grow up kid.

And as far as advice, I suggest you read this.

chance

**scottythebody** · 08-20-2004, 06:49 PM

How tall are you and what did you weigh when you started training?

**1-Cent** · 08-20-2004, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by chances

What an ignorant thing to say. If there wasn't a better reason for you NOT to do them it's that quote right there. Were you stomping your feet and holding your breath when you wrote that? Grow up kid.

And as far as advice, I suggest you read this.

chance

Have to agree with you bro, that sounded really childish

**Lama2004** · 08-20-2004, 07:07 PM

What an ignorant thing to say. If there wasn't a better reason for you NOT to do them it's that quote right there. Were you stomping your feet and holding your breath when you wrote that? Grow up kid.

uhh, sorry I didn't mean to sound like was angry or ignorant..hehe.I guess I'll look elsewhere for more information. Thanks guys for your support and advice.

**AandF6969** · 08-20-2004, 07:38 PM

Diet needs fixed first bro. You won't gain $hit no matter what steroid youre on if your diet sucks. Your workout split probably sucks too if you cant gain weight.

**Steroids101** · 08-20-2004, 07:43 PM

You could permantly damage your hypothalmus, go bald, your not going to grow taller, could have low test for the rest of your life, depression, you name it you'll have a better shot of getting it taking steroids that early.