Please Critique gods of AR!

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 02:37 PM

3 years ago if you told me id be asking about this I would of said your a liar but.... here it goes.

This will be my 1st cycle and im trying to get it down right so this is what I came up with.

Wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day.
Wk 1-10 Test Cyp 400mg/week, inject 200mg twice a week.
Wk 13-15 Clomid starting at 300mg ending at 50mg.
(PCT taken from ar's own novice cycle #1)
Nolva on hand throught whole cycle

Also I am going to drink massive amounts of beer through out whole cycle...J/K

Also very important. 3 1/2 years lifting exp. 23 years old 6' 200lbs
Didnt go into diet but will address if asked. THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS!

**tonytone** · 09-17-2004, 02:39 PM

start that clomid 18 days after your last test shot

**MBaraso** · 09-17-2004, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by tonytone36

start that clomid 18 days after your last test shot

Make that 14days after your last shot of test

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 03:08 PM

Ok so I got 18 days and 14 days, Um might be a dumb question but is that because of tests half life?

**Mart651** · 09-17-2004, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by MFT81

Ok so I got 18 days and 14 days, Um might be a dumb question but is that because of tests half life?

whole life.

**MBaraso** · 09-17-2004, 03:12 PM

14 days is the correct answer....

**BUYLONGTERM** · 09-17-2004, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by MBaraso

14 days is the correct answer....

14 days, The "GOD MBARASO" is correct! Listen to him.

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 03:24 PM

Sweet! 14 days, got it. Whole life, understand it. Anything else? Gods of Ar I bow to you

**RussianVodka** · 09-17-2004, 07:57 PM

IMHO it is too much for a first cycle. For the first cycle you should use test only 250-500mg/week. You will know how your body will react to the roids.

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:01 PM

Cyp is 18 days, Enan is roughly 14 days

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by RussianVodka

IMHO it is too much for a first cycle. For the first cycle you should use test only 250-500mg/week. You will know how your body will react to the roids.

No harm in using D-bol while waiting for the test to kick in.

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 08:11 PM

Russian Vodka, I totally respect that. So why am I going to use dbol too? This cycle is intended to be a mass gain cycle. I have read a LOT of threads that talked about dbol in the first cycle. in fact all I found was test and dbol did this and test dbol did that. To be honest I was actually going to run Test EQ and dbol but wisely decided not to. But I do respect the thought that more is truly better.

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Cyp is 18 days, Enan is roughly 14 days

Can someone show me a thread that addresses this? I want to look it up for myself instead of asking. Thanks.

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by MFT81

Can someone show me a thread that addresses this? I want to look it up for myself instead of asking. Thanks.

PCT Start Times - Posted by Pheedno
Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca : 21 days after last injection
Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:22 PM

The active life of enan is 10 to 12 days, where cyp's is 13 to 15 days........

PCT would start 14 days after your last Enan injection

or

PCT would start 18 days after your last Cyp injection

**MFT81** · 09-17-2004, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

The active life of enan is 10 to 12 days, where cyp's is 13 to 15 days........

PCT would start 14 days after your last Enan injection

or

PCT would start 18 days after your last Cyp injection

The MudMan,
Thanks bro, To easy!

**TheMudMan** · 09-17-2004, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by MFT81

The MudMan,
Thanks bro, To easy!

No problem.......... If you want more infor search on Active life and Half life of Cyp...... also, there have been many posts by Pheedno explaining this.

**MBaraso** · 09-18-2004, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

14 days, The "GOD MBARASO" is correct! Listen to him.

I was wrong. Oh well...You can't remember everything

**rimz** · 09-18-2004, 11:15 AM

I am on my first cycle and currently doing 500mg/wk of test e and 40mg/ed dbol . Personally if I were you and you have enough money I would go ahead and run nolva at 20mg/ed just to be safe. I have read a lot of people who do that now. I decided to do it just to be safe as I don't want gyno and being new may just push aside some signs thinking they aren't anything until it is too late. Good luck on the cycle bro.

**BigGenes** · 09-18-2004, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by rimz

I am on my first cycle and currently doing 500mg/wk of test e and 40mg/ed dbol. Personally if I were you and you have enough money.

With ARs new sponcer you don't have to have alot of money to get the liquid anti-e. You just drink your dose and its really cheap. As a matter of fact drinking the sup as aposed to taking a pill, is much better on your body. A pill has to break down and slowly absorb in the liver mostly. But taking the liquid form you start absorbing it right away. IMO Only time I take pills is if I can't find the sup in liquid form.

**rimz** · 09-18-2004, 11:56 AM

That is true. I am using AR-R antie-e's myself. They taste great and aren't that expensive. I was just suggesting he take nolva throughout if money wasn't an issue. Not that you really have to get that much more if only taking 20mg/ed. Good luck on everything bro.