Tongkat Ali...Boost Natural Test Levels 400%!!!!!!!

**jgg1221** · 07-14-2005, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Unoid

for pct I'm doing HCG , clomid, letro+Nolva, Trib, and Tongkat Ali.

now thats overkill but I'm 22. need ot make sure I'm working perfect.!

yah take trib, tongkat and hcg DURING the cycle... use clomid and nolva in PCT

stop everything except clomid+nolva during PCT

**may0r420** · 07-14-2005, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by needmassx3

bump, would also like to know

http://www.hcmuscle.com/ipp_dynadrol.aspx

dynadrol is the name on site real quality

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 07:22 AM

Thats expensive. Any where else? What do we need to look for when we are shopping? Someone said you may find 100:1 and 200:1 whatever that means.

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 07:51 AM

I found this which Im sure all of you have if you can use google.

http://www.raysahelian.com/tongkat_ali.html

Any comments?

**promiscio** · 07-14-2005, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by gooroo

I found this which Im sure all of you have if you can use google.

http://www.raysahelian.com/tongkat_ali.html

Any comments?

I just ordered some from there... see how it works combining it in the middle of my test e/ eq cycle...

cheap too...

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 09:08 AM

Tons of info on it

http://www.asiadaily.com/

**Cuttup** · 07-14-2005, 09:13 AM

i doubt 400% but that along with Tribulus help restore natural testostorone production.

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 09:34 AM

Tribulus is a joke, it has been proven to raise estro and suppress testo in long term use like 4 weeks.

**randy6969** · 07-14-2005, 10:15 AM

aww man i just ordered Biotest tribex yesterday! im sure it helps dude

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 10:29 AM

ntpadude on this forum had the info I think. DO a search on here for tribulus the study will come up somewhere.

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 10:55 AM

This seems to be the place that has the real deal and its expensive

http://www.tongkat-ali-eurycoma-longifolia-jack.com/

**promiscio** · 07-14-2005, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by gooroo

This seems to be the place that has the real deal and its expensive

http://www.tongkat-ali-eurycoma-longifolia-jack.com/

why pay extra for it on that site when you can get it for $10 on the previous site you posted....

**gooroo** · 07-14-2005, 11:42 AM

Im gonna have to refer you to a previous post. READ all that an you will know why 10 dollar stuff is probaly only laced with viagra to give you a hard on and make you think its working.

Originally Posted by gooroo

Tons of info on it

http://www.asiadaily.com/

**may0r420** · 07-14-2005, 12:43 PM

i personally have tried other companies forms of tongkat ali
and nothing compares to hcmuscle.com
its like night and day
they got a delivery system for it to make sure u digest as much as possible
like i said u feel this sh1t in like 4 days and boy do u feel it

take like 8 / 1:100 tablets a day

You will feel pumped there will be no way to deny it

**Unoid** · 07-14-2005, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

yah take trib, tongkat and hcg DURING the cycle... use clomid and nolva in PCT

stop everything except clomid+nolva during PCT

HCG 1-2weeks b4 pct. I was planning on trib/tongkat with my clomid and nolva

**promiscio** · 07-14-2005, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by gooroo

Im gonna have to refer you to a previous post. READ all that an you will know why 10 dollar stuff is probaly only laced with viagra to give you a hard on and make you think its working.

Viagra isnt cheap either though,

Which previous post are you referring to?

**promiscio** · 07-14-2005, 12:56 PM

ahh I just read the link you posted,,, that is some expensive stuff

**e22** · 07-15-2005, 03:16 PM

What about REDKAT by Biotest???

**xxSmartyPantsxx** · 07-15-2005, 04:12 PM

i think the problem with redkat is that they don't tell you how much tongkat is in each serving. it's probably quite low compared to the actual amount needed for good effect.

**e22** · 07-15-2005, 05:38 PM

Perhaps its better to take something made in the USA instead of something that is made overseas with less control and u dont know what they might put in those pills... just a thought

**Alpha-Male** · 07-15-2005, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by gooroo

Tribulus is a joke, it has been proven to raise estro and suppress testo in long term use like 4 weeks.

please post the study backing this claim...

**Ntpadude** · 07-15-2005, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Benches505

Tribulus is one of the main ingredients. Trib has been proven to raise test levels around 30% . Most of us wouldn't need any juice if we could raise our natural levels by 400%!

It does but its limited by its own success... tribulus also increases aromatase emzymes like nothing else then most of the new testosterone starts converting to estrogen so tribulus is best taken for only 10 days at a time and then best to discontinue usage. Tongkat has no effect on aromatase.