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11-08-2004, 08:46 PM #1Banned
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how toxic is ECA + dbol/anavar?
hello,
im not running these compounds alone, they wont be ran at the same time, this will be a test/dbol /var cycle.here's what it will look like infact.......
1-4 Dbol @ 40 mg ED
1-14 Test @ 625 mg EW
4-14(debating if i want to take it to week 16) Anavar @ 50 mg's ED
1-4 nolva @ 10mg EOD
4-16 proviron @ 50 mg
16-19 PCT
now here's what i wanted to ask,
its almost a must for me to run caffeine and ephedra before i hit the gym. i have a very bad fatigue problem durring the day and its the hardest thing for me to get energy before i hit the gym, especially if i hit the gym durring the later hours.
if i dont run ECA, i feel tired as **** and will fatigue and lose focus easily, no matter how well my diet is in check that day.
how toxic would it be to run my ECA throught this cycle? 5 days on, 2 days off. running around 400 mg's caffeine with only 1 small tab of ephedra, but EOD i will take out the ephedra and bump it to 500mg caffeine to keep my receptors fresh.
i know the var isnt too toxic, but im worried about the dbol/ECA stack there, so what do you guys think?
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11-08-2004, 09:26 PM #2Banned
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11-08-2004, 10:18 PM #3Anabolic Member
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the eca should add NO toxicity, and the dosage of dbol looks fine. Just be safe b/c that seems like it could get hard on the heart. Make you sure you take note of anything abnormal and see a doc if you have abnormal heart rhythm.
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11-08-2004, 10:31 PM #4
I'd keep an eye on your BP. ECA isn't as bad as clen on BP, wouldn't want you to stroke out.
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11-08-2004, 10:33 PM #5
So its ok to run 14wk's straight orals ? Everyone is harsh on people who want to run 10 weeks just oral! 14wk's but it has test in there so its ok? Just curious????
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11-08-2004, 10:41 PM #6Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by james21
Nope, orals that are alkylated are harsh on the liver past 6 weeks, and test is no protector. Test is in there not for liver protection but so test won't be shut down. 14 weeks is wayyyy too long.Last edited by aXe; 11-08-2004 at 11:17 PM.
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11-08-2004, 10:59 PM #7
well if it could be done with any oral var would be the one to go with as its not that toxic to the liver.
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11-09-2004, 01:15 PM #8Banned
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Originally Posted by Jackman
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