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12-25-2004, 07:21 PM #441Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Decakur
Had to take some time away to get some work done...
What are your questions Decakar?
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12-26-2004, 01:54 AM #442Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Odin
Agreed ! The moast damage to my joints was made during my non juicing stage. And i have a friend in my gym that developed heart disease, but not from steroids as everyone thinks ! What they dont know is that he was taking cocain, ephedrine, LSD, etc. He couldent go to sleep without 5mg of xanax and wake up without amphetamine, sometimes he would eaven doo ketamine (dont ask me why) !! And now everyone said look what steroids did to that poor guy ?? lol !
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12-26-2004, 01:58 AM #443Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Odin
Agreed ! The moast damage to my joints was made during my non juicing stage. And i have a friend in my gym that developed heart disease, but not from steroids as everyone thinks ! What they dont know is that he was taking cocain, ephedrine, LSD, etc. He couldent go to sleep without 5mg of xanax and wake up without amphetamine, sometimes he would eaven doo ketamine (dont ask me why) !! And now everyone said look what steroids did to that poor guy ?? lol !
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12-26-2004, 02:00 AM #444Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Odin
Agreed ! The moast damage to my joints was made during my non juicing stage. And i have a friend in my gym that developed heart disease, but not from steroids as everyone thinks ! What they dont know is that he was taking cocain, ephedrine, LSD, etc. He couldent go to sleep without 5mg of xanax and wake up without amphetamine, sometimes he would eaven doo ketamine (dont ask me why) !! And now everyone said look what steroids did to that poor guy ?? lol !
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12-26-2004, 04:42 AM #445Junior Member
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Originally Posted by SVC
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12-26-2004, 10:13 AM #446Junior Member
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That's Just Amazing..
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12-26-2004, 10:21 AM #447Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Decakur
I packed on muscle extremely rapidly during each of my 3 cycles. The reasons for this are:
1) I trained with lots of intensity for 4 years naturally prior to taking AS.
2) I increased my intensity by 10 fold when I started cycling.
3) I trained hard between cycles (some guys stop training all together when they're off).
4) I went off for as long as I was on. (i.e. 6 on 6 off...)
I was in pain while I was on and even more pain when I was off.
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12-26-2004, 10:48 AM #448
SVC whereabouts in boston were you from?
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12-26-2004, 11:14 AM #449Associate Member
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Originally Posted by bignatt
CAMBRIDGE
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12-26-2004, 11:16 AM #450Originally Posted by SVC
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12-26-2004, 11:18 AM #451Associate Member
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Originally Posted by bignatt
You should state that you're a former MassSwole not MassHole
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12-26-2004, 11:19 AM #452Originally Posted by SVC
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12-26-2004, 11:20 AM #453Associate Member
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Originally Posted by bignatt
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12-26-2004, 11:26 AM #454VET Retired
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Originally Posted by SVC
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12-26-2004, 11:31 AM #455Associate Member
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Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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12-26-2004, 11:36 AM #456Originally Posted by SVC
I for one would like to have you answering questions and making contributions here...I think after this tread everybody will remember you as that guy that was real big and lean....That injured himself...That and your inside knowledge willl keep me reading your threads...
peaceLast edited by K$I$N$G$P$I$N; 12-26-2004 at 11:38 AM.
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12-26-2004, 11:39 AM #457
I agree with kingpin i would also like to have you keep posting on this board i think you have some pretty good insight
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12-26-2004, 11:40 AM #458Associate Member
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Anonymous Questionnaire For A.s. Users
I've tried to answer all of your questions. If possible, I'd appreciate it if you could answer the following (email me: [email protected] or send me a private message in here or post your answers.
1) How long did you train naturally prior to taking AS?
2) What were the main reasons you started using AS?
3) How old were you when you started using AS?
4) Were you aware that you keep growing in height until you're 23 and that taking steroids prior can stunt your growth and lead to other problems down the road prior to starting your first cycle?
5) Do you experience any side effects while you're on AS? (i.e. acne, hair loss, oily skin, increased blood pressure, heart arrhythmia, joint pain, mood swings, elevation in cholesterol, liver enzyme elevation...)
6) Do you personally know anyone who has experienced severe side effects? If so, what were their side effects?
7) Do your parents know you're using AS? Have they asked if you were?
8) Did you research AS prior to starting your first cycle? If so, where did you do this research (where did you get your information?)
9) Did you purchase your AS on the black market? If so, how can you be sure it was real and how can you be sure of the sterility of it?
10) If you've used TREN or FINAJECT did you make your own?
11) How long do you go off AS between cycles?
12) Where do you inject yourself? (i.e. glutes, quads, shoulders...)
13) Have you ever used synthol to temporarily enlarge your muscles? If so, how much oil did you inject and where?
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12-26-2004, 11:45 AM #459Associate Member
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Originally Posted by bignatt
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12-26-2004, 11:54 AM #460Originally Posted by SVC
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12-26-2004, 12:29 PM #461Associate Member
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Originally Posted by K$I$N$G$P$I$N
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12-26-2004, 12:57 PM #462Originally Posted by SVC
Anyway, what did your diet look like while you were on cycle? You packed on some serious size between your natural and juiced pics.
Another thing, what are your current stats...in the last natural pic. And have you ever thought about using steroids again, now that you know so much more about them. You can PM me if you'd like.
Thanks
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12-26-2004, 01:01 PM #463
97 pages and counting..............
This is a huge thread....... I have been trying to read and catch up. How tall are you SVC? What did you weigh at your largest? And guys..... nobody knows it all it seems that this guy has been trying to answer the best he can..... and the link to his site was interesting. He knows and admits he did not know much about what he was doing back then and we all know we have way more resources for answers now. I don't take anything to heart without researching it first and asking tons of questions. There are hundreds of people out there giving advice on things they have not experienced. If I were a heavy drinker I would most likely seek the advice of an ex-drinker to help fix my problems than a kid fresh out of school who rarely ever drank himself. SVC is a good example of what things used to be and can answer some questions that may help some of the heavy AS users on the board. We all know that playing with your hormones is not a safe practice but we do what we do for our own reasons and we will all get to deal with our own conseqences in due time. Everything and every choice carries its price.
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12-26-2004, 01:07 PM #464Originally Posted by GMuscle
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12-26-2004, 01:21 PM #465Associate Member
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I'm 5'9" (5'7" with the forward lean I started using when I was 22.5 years old. (weighed approx. 175) The most I weighed was 220. I appeared heavier because my joints are so small (ala Flex Wheeler illusion).
I believe GMuscle made some great points. Research everything... look before you leap...
Originally Posted by GMuscle
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12-26-2004, 01:22 PM #466Junior Member
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Originally Posted by GMuscle
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12-26-2004, 01:33 PM #467Associate Member
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I always ate clean when I was cycling ... mainly Chicken & Brown Basmati Rice. I didn't believe in and still don't believe in cheat meals. If you own a Ferrari TesticleRosta would you put HI OCTANE FUEL in it or CONVENIENCE STORE REGULAR FUEL?
Fortunately, because I went off between cycles and used HCG during and between, my natural test is fine. If my natural test becomes abnormally low in the future I will try natural remedies to bring it up. (Cobra...)
I have no desire to use AS again... I'm not that same guy anymore... I've always got more fulfillment out of helping others (as cheesy as it may sound)...
Originally Posted by IronAdam
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12-26-2004, 01:44 PM #468Junior Member
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althuought i dont think is a good adivce to say to someone use HCG while off and on cycle to keep your natural test levers up.
I dont belive it..
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12-26-2004, 02:20 PM #469Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Decakur
Everyone should do their own research and consult their physician before doing anything ... especially something that alters their body's chemistry...
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12-26-2004, 02:23 PM #470Junior Member
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Originally Posted by SVC
cant stop then of doing these cycles, do you give them advice
that they should run HCG thru the whole cycle and after, and
also to do clomid ED on a cycle.
Man.. clomid has more sid effects then for ex. dianabol .
HCG, you can get BT etc...
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12-26-2004, 02:33 PM #471Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Decakur
I'm glad you brought up CLOMID. I took CLOMID for literally 2 days in 1985, then I heard that it makes your eyes sensitive to light so I said F**k this and used HCG only. I never had gyno in my life, I think it's because I always took NOLVA while I was on. I also noticed that NOLVA & HCG made my skin real thin.
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12-26-2004, 02:37 PM #472Junior Member
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That's just Amazing.. But 10mg Nolva shuld be fine when on cycle?
20mg sounds alittle bit overdrive.
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12-26-2004, 02:46 PM #473Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Decakur
I always used 20 because I read that the half life of NOLVA is extremely short which means it's not in your system for a long time and the makers of NOLVA recommended the tabs not be broken so it made it impossible to use 5mg twice per day...
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12-26-2004, 02:47 PM #474Junior Member
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Originally Posted by SVC
Could that keep the AS results down?
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12-26-2004, 02:49 PM #475
very good thread.....svc if that is you, you looked fn outstanding.......
how you got there, ill will never understand because you are/were a knucklehead
and how did you go from nationals/condition to 160lbs???
guess you quit doin those neck lifts....
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12-26-2004, 03:00 PM #476Associate Member
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Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
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12-26-2004, 03:17 PM #477Originally Posted by SVC
the neck things were the most memorable but getting in that shape running those jacked the **** upd cycles and overtraining like a madman on crystal meth is still an accomplishment....im one of htose people that will never compete, i just like being "jacked"......
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12-26-2004, 03:21 PM #478Anabolic Member
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That's just Amazing.. But 10mg Nolva shuld be fine when on cycle?
thanks, I think... (note to self - never tell anyone about the neck lifts again which I did for a total of 4 weeks - it's virtually the only thing they seem to remember )
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12-26-2004, 03:35 PM #479Junior Member
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Originally Posted by aXe
and hcg maid the skin look even more better, thats just amaizing IMO.
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Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
What part of Germany are you from? I'm 3/4 German. My mother is 100%, she's originally from Berlin. I think Germans have some of the best genetics on the planet...
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