How Much Test is Enough?

**Stax Master** · 12-16-2004, 04:35 PM

I just finished a full cycle of test 250 Qv at 2cc's/week. I gained about 8 pounds of muscle and water bulk which i lost most of within the next month. After finishing the cycle my workouts gradually went back to normal. A few friends recommended that I try 3 or 4cc's/week instead. How much test is enough and how much is too much?
Also, I just picked up some decca, d-ball, and whinny tabs. The guy who made them available to me said he had some better test that was "human grade" since the Qv i got last time had a dog on the box. Is he full of it or is that the good stuff? And how much test should i take during the decca, d-ball, and whinny cycle?
Last question... Is it perfectly ok to mix the decca and the test in the syringe before injection? Any answers to any questions are greatly appreciated.

**tycin** · 12-16-2004, 04:42 PM

500mh/week of test is good bro, to only gain 8lbs ur diet musta been shlt!! read up on the diet forums!

qv is pretty good stuff

yes its fine to mix deca and test in the same syringe

i would run it like this:
test e or cyp 500mg/week
deca 400mg/week
dbol 30mg/day for the 1st 4 weeks. for a 2nd cycle thats alright but u may wanna drop the deca. JMO...

**billy_ba** · 12-16-2004, 04:47 PM

what do you mean by full cycle? 1 bottle?

**tycin** · 12-16-2004, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by billy_ba

what do you mean by full cycle? 1 bottle?

ya i didnt catch that i hope u did more than 1 bottle, how long was ur cycle?

**Stax Master** · 12-16-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by billy_ba

what do you mean by full cycle? 1 bottle?

My full cycle was 4000mgs

**Stax Master** · 12-16-2004, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by tycin

i would run it like this:
test e or cyp 500mg/week
deca 400mg/week
dbol 30mg/day for the 1st 4 weeks. for a 2nd cycle thats alright but u may wanna drop the deca. JMO...

Is the deca and test too much for a second cycle? And when should i start with the whinny?

**billy_ba** · 12-16-2004, 05:02 PM

so 8 wks at 500mg per wk. You should have 4mls left if you had 2 bottles. I wouldnt bump the test for your next cycle, get your diet in check first bro because I had a friend that gained 17lbs from that same test only cycle. It's either diet or bunk gear. oh and another thing is vet grade is just as good as human grade gear. Human grade is like 99.999% pure, where as vet is like 98%. That extra 1mg wont make for a noticable difference.

**Stax Master** · 12-16-2004, 05:07 PM

alright thanks man. I'll check out the dieting rules before i get started again. I checked some pictures and the labeling looks real. I'm pretty sure i got the right stuff.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-16-2004, 05:13 PM

In my opinion, 400mgs of test is enough (a minimum dose, in my opinion)....and "too much" will vary from person to person, and have alot to do with your goals.

**bmwrob** · 12-16-2004, 05:46 PM

How about PCT? Did you run one? That will help with keeping your gains afterwards. Plus, 8 weeks is kind of a short cycle.

**Stax Master** · 12-16-2004, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by bmwrob

How about PCT? Did you run one? That will help with keeping your gains afterwards. Plus, 8 weeks is kind of a short cycle.

What's the best PCT? and What length do you recommend for a cycle of test e only?

**bmwrob** · 12-16-2004, 05:50 PM

Go to the PCT fourm and research. Did you run a PCT?

**tycin** · 12-16-2004, 05:50 PM

i would run ur next cycle for 10-12 weeks.

if ur gon add winny add it the last 8 weeks at 50mg/day. i would try to stcik with just test and dbol but its ur choice.

**Iowa** · 12-16-2004, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stax Master

What's the best PCT? and What length do you recommend for a cycle of test e only?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

**justin2305** · 12-16-2004, 05:51 PM

500mgs a week of some test e is perfect u dont really need ne more than that and the other stuff not to sure bout that

**SwoleCat** · 12-16-2004, 05:51 PM

Diet, diet, diet.

Starts there, ends there.

You can see that now.

~SC~

**ace ventura** · 12-17-2004, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by hooker

In my opinion, 400mgs of test is enough (a minimum dose, in my opinion)....and "too much" will vary from person to person, and have alot to do with your goals.

Why do you think 400mgs is a minimum? The reason I ask is because I am thinking about doing 250/300mgs test e / 12 weeks and why shouldn't it be enough? Is there a chance that I won't get any results at all (with proper training/food etc)?

**benny205** · 12-17-2004, 04:04 AM

I think 250mgs and 200 mgs deca for 10 weeks, with first four weeks 25mgs d-boll/day and a good PCT

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-17-2004, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by ace ventura

Why do you think 400mgs is a minimum? The reason I ask is because I am thinking about doing 250/300mgs test e / 12 weeks and why shouldn't it be enough? Is there a chance that I won't get any results at all (with proper training/food etc)?

I think that 400mgs/week is the minimum which will produce results that can not be had by other means...in other words, less than that will produce results which can be had with a strict diet, proper training, and tons of supplements (creatine, etc...). 400mgs/week is where the results begin to go in to the realm of not being possible by other means.